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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 7:27:37 GMT
Didn't we get BOS on the cheap as he'd run his contract at Blackpool down to the final 12 months? Maybe this is just what he does? Can't blame him really. If I was a professional footballer I'd probably do the same. Bound to be easier to negotiate a decent sign-on fee if there is a smaller transfer fee involved. It was an undisclosed fee but think it was still £750k. Saw an article recently where it described how Eze ,Chair and Bos get together regularly to discuss how they could fire QPR into the prem this year and what it would mean to the club and fans. As others have said a million times before “if only “ I cant do links but maybe someone can. www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/qpr-bright-Osayi-Samuel-interview-Championship-Blackpool-efl-a9452321.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2020 10:22:15 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jun 13, 2020 6:49:31 GMT
I rate BOS but my prediction is if he goes prem too soon (within next 2 years) then he will disappear and end up a championship player rest of his career. He’s got to time this right
He’s a player of huge potential and his pace is his USP but in the prem you need a bit more then pace if your going play regular. He’s still a very frustrating player as the positions he’s gets in do not always result in an outcome. He gets away with that at ours, he won’t in the prem as it’s sink or swim.
United looking to loan out James, as like I’m saying above, there has been little end product from him but he has pace to burn.
Big decision for BOS as next move and timing in my view makes or breaks Him in the top flight, some players don’t recover if it don’t happen.
Play the Long game Would be my advice, sign a new contract with us, make your mistakes in front of a fanbase who love you and safe environment to try things, soak up all that experience for two years then make your name in Prem
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jun 13, 2020 7:44:06 GMT
Think there should be some protection for clubs below the prem when it comes to players running down their contract. Don't blame the players but a club like us have put a lot of effort into developing BOS cos he was very very raw when he joined.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 13, 2020 9:15:02 GMT
It might just be me but when we had Wells, Eze, BOS & Chair playing together they each had a different facet to their games which the others didn't and epitomised the adage that the sum of the parts was greater than the whole. Wells' heading and striking, BOS' pace, Eze's silky vision and Chair's never say die trickery. Wells has been the first to find out out the reason that he had such a stellar goalscoring season after many years of mediocrity and I wonder if that will happen with BOS & Chair? Eze not so much as he has more raw talent than the others but even he will nee to be at the right team to thrive. QPR had the perfect storm with them all being here together and, bar Wells, quite a few seasons together in the U23's.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 12:46:21 GMT
I would imagine when BOS signed from Blackpool it was on quite modest terms.It also looks like the new contract we are offering is below what BOS and his agent values himself at.
Luke Freeman was in a similar position running his contract down but re-signed when we all knew he would leave as soon as window opened.
What persuaded Luke Freeman to resign and why can’t we do the same with BOS .
Are we always going to lose our talented players for less than market value because we don’t pay a decent wage anymore ?
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Post by West Acton on Jun 13, 2020 14:06:47 GMT
I would imagine when BOS signed from Blackpool it was on quite modest terms.It also looks like the new contract we are offering is below what BOS and his agent values himself at. Luke Freeman was in a similar position running his contract down but re-signed when we all knew he would leave as soon as window opened. What persuaded Luke Freeman to resign and why can’t we do the same with BOS . Are we always going to lose our talented players for less than market value because we don’t pay a decent wage anymore ? only thing I would say is persuading them to extend, same as we did with Smithies, means we prob set a transfer trigger clause and fans will just moan as they did when we sold freeman and Smithies that we sold them cheap but I do agree with suggestion that’s way to go when contracts are this short and there is stalemate |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 14:25:58 GMT
If our blueprint is to recruit young raw players and develop them then at some stage someone has to wise up and recognise our talented players and reward them earlier with better contracts otherwise this is a reoccurring problem going forward..
I know that’s easy for me to say that but it just feels our club is getting shafted at every opportunity.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 13, 2020 15:00:08 GMT
If our blueprint is to recruit young raw players and develop them then at some stage someone has to wise up and recognise our talented players and reward them earlier with better contracts otherwise this is a reoccurring problem going forward.. I know that’s easy for me to say that but it just feels our club is getting shafted at every opportunity. Until we can get a few sold at a decent profit we won't be in a position to offer them what they are worth because of the P&S sanctions in FPP. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 15:24:24 GMT
I know your right in what you say Esox ..it’s so frustrating that for the first time in years we have got a very good crop of youngsters that will need to be sold cheaply so we comply with a rule that will probably be seen to be unworkable very soon.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 13, 2020 17:30:39 GMT
It well come to pass but if, as has been suggested, a salary cap is introduced we could still be screwed if it is based on say 70% of matchday receipts and that would load the Championship in favour of the clubs with the biggest gates. If it were to be based on a revenue percentage there would be nothing to stop rich owners pumping money into overpriced sponsorship deals etc. which would have the same effect as favouring he clubs with the biggest gastes. I can't imagine for one minute that a blanket salary cap for the Championship, regardless of revenue streams, would ever fly with enough of a majority in favour. Football is at the crossroads and there are no signposts.
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Post by Bill on Jun 13, 2020 19:20:00 GMT
We have always been a selling club
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 3:55:51 GMT
When Jim Gregory was the owner we were not a selling club.
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Post by awin on Jun 14, 2020 8:34:07 GMT
When Jim Gregory was the owner we were not a selling club. Couldn’t disagree more. gregory famously said everything is for sale, even his desk if the right offer came in. |
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Post by Bill on Jun 14, 2020 9:37:28 GMT
When Jim Gregory was the owner we were not a selling club. rodger morgan to spuds,peter springett swop with an older ron springett come to mind straight away |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 11:24:43 GMT
I never saw the Morgan twins or Ron Springett live but from my memory every player sold were not to the detriment of the team or to “just survive “
I can’t think of many players that went on to a more successful career winning trophy’s or caps after leaving Rangers during Jim Gregory leadership.
During his tenure his record of recognising when a players best days were behind them was one of his main attributes..he also consistently brought better players “in “than were sold “ on “often at good profit.
All this whilst winning the League Cup , getting into Europe and turning our ramshackle ground into a stadium.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 14, 2020 11:36:41 GMT
I never saw the Morgan twins or Ron Springett live but from my memory every player sold were not to the detriment of the team or to “just survive “ I can’t think of many players that went on to a more successful career winning trophy’s or caps after leaving Rangers during Jim Gregory leadership. During his tenure his record of recognising when a players best days were behind them was one of his main attributes..he also consistently brought better players “in “than were sold “ on “often at good profit. All this whilst winning the League Cup , getting into Europe and turning our ramshackle ground into a stadium. Roger Morgan was definitely a loss when he was sold. Ian was not a like for like replacement IMO. Similarly with Peter Springett, Ron was definitely past his best as Peter was in his prime with us. It was a long time before we ever managed to replace Marsh too. There was a reason that someone graffitied "Gregory is a slag" on the SAF wall. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 11:46:52 GMT
Rodney went in 72 and Stan and Dave Thomas arrived same year 72
just had a look Stan came six months later.
was it a good deal £200k for Rodney and £110k for Stan and 165k for Dave Thomas ?
i blubbered like a baby when Rodney left.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 23, 2020 21:11:15 GMT
What’s his price?? I would put him slight below Eze as he’s less consistent. Nothing less then £15mil with add ins on top Rumours abound that he is looking to run his contract down and all we will get as a club is a tribunal fee due to his age. Fucking Bosman  |
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Post by acricketer on Jun 23, 2020 21:30:26 GMT
What’s his price?? I would put him slight below Eze as he’s less consistent. Nothing less then £15mil with add ins on top Rumours abound that he is looking to run his contract down and all we will get as a club is a tribunal fee due to his age. Fucking Bosman Footballers eh! |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 23, 2020 22:36:44 GMT
What’s his price?? I would put him slight below Eze as he’s less consistent. Nothing less then £15mil with add ins on top Rumours abound that he is looking to run his contract down and all we will get as a club is a tribunal fee due to his age. Fucking Bosman If that's the case surely we'll take the decision out of his hands and sell him this summer. It's a bit of a nightmare scenario really. The football economy is on it's arse and we have 2 of the best prospects we've had in years with contracts that are running round and bigger clubs in their ears. You just know we are gonna have our pants pulled down, don't you?!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 22:37:05 GMT
What’s his price?? I would put him slight below Eze as he’s less consistent. Nothing less then £15mil with add ins on top Rumours abound that he is looking to run his contract down and all we will get as a club is a tribunal fee due to his age. Fucking Bosman Danny Ings was valued by Burnley at £10m in 2016....a tribunal ordered Liverpool to pay £6.5 m with £1.5 add on for apps. i would guess that BOS is valued by the club at around £10m and that valuation may be seen to be a fair price by looking at D James £15m transfer to Man U recently. If you listen to Les on podcast he is bullish and confident of achieving a fair price if it goes to a tribunal. I thought the club got turned over by Hall going on a Bosman but you disagreed..what’s different about BOS ? |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 24, 2020 6:41:45 GMT
Rumours abound that he is looking to run his contract down and all we will get as a club is a tribunal fee due to his age. Fucking Bosman Danny Ings was valued by Burnley at £10m in 2016....a tribunal ordered Liverpool to pay £6.5 m with £1.5 add on for apps. i would guess that BOS is valued by the club at around £10m and that valuation may be seen to be a fair price by looking at D James £15m transfer to Man U recently. If you listen to Les on podcast he is bullish and confident of achieving a fair price if it goes to a tribunal. I thought the club got turned over by Hall going on a Bosman but you disagreed..what’s different about BOS ? It was meant to be a glib remark. If BOS is currently on around £5-7k p.w. (a guess based on his being bought for the U23 squad from Blackpool) and thinks he can get 3 to 4 times that by running his contract down then QPR are going to have to face the fact that they are reliant on tribunals setting fees for the youngsters we produce if we can't get them into a high profile in the first year or two of their contracts. We were lucky that Eze displayed his abilities, and worth, during the first year of his contract so we have a better chance of getting a good price for him. The club could offer him a better contract at the wage ceiling but it still wouldn't be close to what he could earn at the sort of club that is likely to splash out on him. A harsh fact of life for QPR at the moment but we are supposedly half way through our plan to get the club properly back on its feet. |
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Post by The General on Jul 17, 2020 15:20:30 GMT
Twitter saying BOS off to Bruges 5 million (unconfirmed)
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jul 17, 2020 15:22:36 GMT
Great city,he have fun
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 15:41:59 GMT
Decent price given circumstances. Get 15-20 for Eze, 3-4 for Manning and that should tie us over financially for next couple years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 15:47:10 GMT
Turkish journo saying we've told fehnerbahce he's off to bruges now too...
€5m!
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 17, 2020 15:48:30 GMT
£4.7m is a decent amount given the circumstances, good luck to him.
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Post by acricketer on Jul 17, 2020 15:52:57 GMT
Wish him well. Nice little earner for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 15:54:34 GMT
Signed for 750k? 4m profit for someone that only really had good six or so months here?
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