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Post by lymehoop on May 3, 2019 7:03:04 GMT
Olly rewriting history. Magnificent in his first stint but struggled in his second. Mind you, most managers would in our predicament
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Post by esoxlucius on May 3, 2019 8:31:47 GMT
Elsa has some good advice for Holloway.
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Post by jfrabbit on May 3, 2019 10:51:13 GMT
I get he loves the club and feels hard done by but give it up Ian ffs.
I love the fella for his history as a player and manager for us when he got us up but other than that he was a disaster in all honesty.
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Post by davieqpr on May 3, 2019 12:01:02 GMT
No other team wanted him before and no other team has wanted him since.
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Post by Hitman34 on May 3, 2019 14:31:18 GMT
He is a bitter, prat of a man.
Get over it ffs... You were shyte.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 14:39:08 GMT
Would have been interesting to see him get the backing with four ex/current prem players that Mac got. Especially the strikers.(suppose you could argue Ollie had a few already in the squad in his time here)
One negative about Ollie's departure was the progress of one or two youngsters stalling (Smyth, Manning). Eze came good for a while under Mac but that seemed to slow as the season went on.
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Post by Tarbie on May 3, 2019 15:03:03 GMT
Would have been interesting to see him get the backing with four ex/current prem players that Mac got. Especially the strikers.(suppose you could argue Ollie had a few already in the squad in his time here) One negative about Ollie's departure was the progress of one or two youngsters stalling (Smyth, Manning). Eze came good for a while under Mac but that seemed to slow as the season went on. I don't think Ollie would have wanted those players, particularly on the salaries they are being paid. He'd have used the money to buy players from the Championship and League 1. I actually think this is the 1 area Ollie excelled. He is very good in the transfer market on a budget. Unfortunately he let's himself down in most other aspects of his leadership. I actually don't have too much of an issue with what he says in this article. He's entitled to his opinion and most likely wouldn't have done far worse than McClaren had he not been binned. But he really does need to let it go now. He's been banging on like this for a year now. |
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Post by hal9thou on May 3, 2019 16:37:33 GMT
Would have been interesting to see him get the backing.... No it would not. He'd have fucked it up. No one has wanted him since he left us, and he alienated his previous club before he arrived. He slagged off the fans when he was here, he was obsessed with a system totally unsuited to the squad at the time and persisted with it despite the evidence, and it took him ages to play dem yout. Sorry, but the thought of him doing anything at LR alarms me. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 3, 2019 16:45:16 GMT
he was obsessed with a system totally unsuited to the squad at the time and persisted with it despite the evidence Oh yes, specifically - playing wingbacks (for 3/4 of the season!) despite the club not actually possessing any. How could we forget?!  |
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Post by West Acton on May 10, 2019 10:58:27 GMT
Decent listen. Typical Ollie says some good things followed by some total poo then something good again.
I listen to this and I like him as an individual, even though I wish I did not as at same time he annoys me so much, but it does reaffirm to me his exit was totally correct.
Few interesting snippets and can’t question his affection towards the club. Would not be against him having a role of sorts in the future (some will be dead against that)
What does jump out is what he says about owners. He’s endorsed them massively in this and given clear message to fans be careful what you wish for. My understanding of his comments are if we drive them out club is in jeopardy!!! So think fans need to heed this warning
Also he’s big on Les, Hoos and Ramsey and what there doing
He’s got no reason to support any of the above so if he’s saying back them then think we got to do that. You might not like the individuals, it might go against how you think club should be set up and your beliefs but here we have a man who until recently was on the inside saying back what’s going on.
Unless you have personal agendas why would you not take his words and do as asked?
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 10, 2019 13:21:55 GMT
I wonder who decided to sack him then as you would have thought if it wasn't Les or Lee it would have been the owners?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 13:31:17 GMT
Did he not have an issue with one of the owners offering his job to McClaren the december before they moved him on? He is also still being paid by the same owners he is endorsing so no suprise he is bigging them up. I have a issue with the owners and their way of running the club this past 8 years and it is not personal just think they have destroyed what could have been a fantastic time for our fanbase.
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Post by DiscoDroid on May 10, 2019 13:37:55 GMT
Had a listen this afternoon. A good podcast. Unfortunatley The main thing i took from it was the female panellist on it sounded about as happy as one of Ronnie Krays Rent Boys soaping down the chesterfield sofa clean of Human shit after one of Ronnies infamous scatology and black bomber Parties at his bijou Cedra court apartment.
What a miserable cow.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 10, 2019 13:51:03 GMT
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Post by West Acton on May 10, 2019 14:05:04 GMT
Depends what agenda is being Spun Stan. Is the remaining period of payment not only matter of months?? If so why fear telling the truth if that’s not what he really thinks
Could simply say nothing and not even touch on subject regards suitability of owners or Les etc
Are we saying that he’s supported them but he’s simply done it for sake of two months money?
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Post by Stanley75 on May 10, 2019 14:20:58 GMT
No idea how long is left on his contract Wests. Just saying if I was under contract to a company, on good money at that, there is no way I would come out and openly criticise them. Therefore it can't be assumed he's being totally objective in his comments and would instead take them with a pinch of salt.
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Post by West Acton on May 10, 2019 14:25:00 GMT
So on that basis say nothing. He’s getting paid regardless of if he supports and endorses them so I can only assume fact he has means he’s being genuine
Also if he does have matter of months left even more reason to put the boot in if he wanted too as next to nothing to lose
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Post by awin on May 10, 2019 14:27:25 GMT
Decent listen. Typical Ollie says some good things followed by some total poo then something good again. I listen to this and I like him as an individual, even though I wish I did not as at same time he annoys me so much, but it does reaffirm to me his exit was totally correct. Few interesting snippets and can’t question his affection towards the club. Would not be against him having a role of sorts in the future (some will be dead against that) What does jump out is what he says about owners. He’s endorsed them massively in this and given clear message to fans be careful what you wish for. My understanding of his comments are if we drive them out club is in jeopardy!!! So think fans need to heed this warning Also he’s big on Les, Hoos and Ramsey and what there doing He’s got no reason to support any of the above so if he’s saying back them then think we got to do that. You might not like the individuals, it might go against how you think club should be set up and your beliefs but here we have a man who until recently was on the inside saying back what’s going on. Unless you have personal agendas why would you not take his words and do as asked? Totally agree. |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 10, 2019 14:30:39 GMT
Wests, of course you may be right that he's being totally sincere, indeed I hope he is! It's just we have no way of being certain when he still has some skin in the game. He'd have been better off doing such an interview once he no longer had financial ties to the club.
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Post by BrightonR on May 10, 2019 14:56:42 GMT
I seem to recall LF saying that basically, every manager is on something akin to a 12 month rolling contract.
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Post by qprjeff1882 on May 10, 2019 15:48:55 GMT
Don't think Ian would gain anything by slating them even if he wasn't getting paid. Surely would go against him with other potential jobs in the future. Other clubs would see any criticism he gives as a warning sign to stay away. Yes he's very passionate and can talk for England but sometimes its best just to keep your bad thoughts (if any) to yourself. I do like him for his undoubted passion but he did annoy me towards the last 5/6 months of his tenure.
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Post by hal9thou on May 10, 2019 16:08:43 GMT
If he's still under contract there may well be a non disclosure element.
It's naive to take any statements from anyone under contract at any club at face value these days. Way of the world.
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Post by davieqpr on May 10, 2019 16:12:40 GMT
He was on a 1 year rolling contract so he is paid until 12 months from when he was sacked. He is not going to slag off owners or management because he wants to show any future employers that he is faithful.
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Post by Brian Wilson on May 11, 2019 9:52:25 GMT
Will always love Ollie and think he did a decent job with us under the circumstances (better job overall than McClaren IMO).
I think he is being honest about our staff and owners as his contract with us is nearly up and as he says himself he just says it like it is. Can well believe the stuff about McClaren and his people being in the ear of our owners...but that's just football.
Think he possibly suffers from some mental health issues (depression?) which make him unemployable for many. Hope he gets a club again...maybe back at Plymouth or Bristol Rovers someday.
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Post by West Acton on May 11, 2019 11:16:47 GMT
Brian I think you have a point about health as he alluded to that in his Talksport interview too
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Post by West Acton on Jul 26, 2019 13:26:56 GMT
Leon Knight says what most of us already knew.
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jul 26, 2019 13:33:20 GMT
Leon Knight says what most of us already knew. I wouldn't listen to anything Leon Knight says tbf. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 26, 2019 13:40:32 GMT
Same way I didn’t listen to anything Ollie said
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Jul 26, 2019 13:55:25 GMT
Leon Knight is a t*** who wasted his talent.
I like Ollie on Talk Sport and think he's quite refreshing with his honest own opinions. I also think the guy done a sterling job for our back when we were in league 1 and actually not a to bad job with the awful team he inherited a couple of years ago.
He kept us up on a shoe string budget and integrated the youth through which was his one goal and got sacked for it. He's a QPR man and always surprised by the amount of stick he gets from our fans.
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Post by Shania on Jul 26, 2019 14:53:14 GMT
T-I-M-i-N-G, Maidstone hoop. The Timing is shit.... Pardon my language.
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