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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 1, 2021 16:49:53 GMT
Tough. You went down, deal with it. Fine but that just widens the gap between Championship and PL - any promoted club won't be able to sign any decent PL standard players because they won't be able to afford to sign any on a contract longer that a year, just in case they go down. It might just encourage clubs to gamble and spend big when they get there in the hope that they will stay up. If they don't they will end up in the EFL with massive overspend (sound familiar?). Then the EFL will likely fine them on top of that and we end up achieving the exact opposite of what FFP is all about. The whole thing is a mess. I think it would be a good idea to let the top PL teams have their way and break away to some nonsense European super-league, absorb the remaining PL teams into the EFL and just have a single English league structure. But it can’t be right that a relegated side starts with a financial and therefore, most likely, a quality advantage for the new season? I understand your points but maybe that will lead to clubs only doing what they can afford. Promoted clubs will still reach the promised land but if they drop out they start level again. |
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Post by Buffalo on Dec 1, 2021 17:10:25 GMT
I agree it's not right and something needs to be done about it but just removing parachute payments won't resolve it, just create a whole new set of problems and make the PL even more of an elite club.
Parachute payments are just a band-aid that disguises the real issue which is that we have two separate leagues governed by different bodies with different rules and where the wealth is distributed so unevenly. While there is a huge financial gulf between the EFL and PL, any transition between those leagues is going to be very difficult.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 1, 2021 17:20:55 GMT
Spin to keep HMG at arm's length following the recent highly critical report on football's governance? We wonders......
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Post by 2Loftus on Dec 1, 2021 18:36:04 GMT
Hopefully we'll go up this season and the payments then continue for a few more years while agreement is reached! Defeatist - you're pre-supposing we'll be relegated in a couple of years!!  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 2, 2021 17:16:54 GMT
 derby new club song |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2021 7:33:01 GMT
The money owed to Roman 😳
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Post by Buffalo on Dec 30, 2021 8:27:15 GMT
That's an expensive hobby...
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2022 12:27:15 GMT
Think there will be more of this
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 13, 2022 19:51:29 GMT
Boro and Stoke also in the shit Westy. Reaffirms what we were both saying on another thread about the need not to get drawn into over spending this window.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 13, 2022 20:32:07 GMT
Boro and Stoke also in the shit Westy. Reaffirms what we were both saying on another thread about the need not to get drawn into over spending this window. and why I think next season is on too if we come up short this one |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 13, 2022 20:43:17 GMT
Boro and Stoke also in the shit Westy. Reaffirms what we were both saying on another thread about the need not to get drawn into over spending this window. and why I think next season is on too if we come up short this one also have to take into account who is coming down (with massive parachutes.) Could be this term is the best opportunity we'll have for a while. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 13, 2022 20:53:06 GMT
and why I think next season is on too if we come up short this one also have to take into account who is coming down (with massive parachutes.) Could be this term is the best opportunity we'll have for a while. Not being funny mate, but 3 decent sides come down with huge parachute payments virtually every season. I mean when was the last time you didn't fancy at least 2 of the 3 relegated sides to go straight back up? |
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Post by Buffalo on Jan 14, 2022 12:44:50 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 14, 2022 13:17:58 GMT
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 14, 2022 13:22:14 GMT
Derby fans really think that they'll be liquidated. They have no assets to sell (A few players but they'll need replacing). The new owners would need to buy back the stadium etc so it's not an attractive place to buy.
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Post by Buffalo on Jan 14, 2022 13:23:35 GMT
So they can't sign anyone and the only way they can generate any revenue is to sell players. Not sympathising in any way but that's got to be wrong. They need help really.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 14, 2022 16:19:09 GMT
So they can't sign anyone and the only way they can generate any revenue is to sell players. Not sympathising in any way but that's got to be wrong. They need help really. No, they need putting in a hole and soil thrown on top of them. They have been cheating for years. Fiddling figures, selling stadiums, employing players as coaches to dodge ffp rules. If the FL can allow teams like Bury and Macclesfield to go bust, then fuck Derby. Bury them, slap a grave stone on top and say a prayer for them. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 14, 2022 16:43:57 GMT
End of day it’s not the fans fault is it, can’t owners walk away, fan’s shafted
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Post by BrightonR on Jan 14, 2022 17:28:00 GMT
AFC Derby has got a certain attractiveness though, hasn’t it?
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 14, 2022 17:42:18 GMT
Derby fans really think that they'll be liquidated. They do seem to be in deeper and deeper do-dos, but pretty sure someone like Mike Ashley will step in at the last minute as some kind of self-proclaimed 'saviour' to engender a bit of goodwill among fans, buying it for peanuts. |
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Post by Buffalo on Jan 14, 2022 18:24:28 GMT
So they can't sign anyone and the only way they can generate any revenue is to sell players. Not sympathising in any way but that's got to be wrong. They need help really. No, they need putting in a hole and soil thrown on top of them. They have been cheating for years. Fiddling figures, selling stadiums, employing players as coaches to dodge ffp rules. If the FL can allow teams like Bury and Macclesfield to go bust, then fuck Derby. Bury them, slap a grave stone on top and say a prayer for them. Hard to argue against that Hits but, as gtleighsr3 says, it's the fans that will suffer most. I thought FFP was supposed to prevent clubs from overspending and going to the wall but in this case it's basically driving the final nails in. FFP and PL/EFL finances need a complete review and something else put in place because FFP is clearly not working. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 14, 2022 22:20:16 GMT
No, they need putting in a hole and soil thrown on top of them. They have been cheating for years. Fiddling figures, selling stadiums, employing players as coaches to dodge ffp rules. If the FL can allow teams like Bury and Macclesfield to go bust, then fuck Derby. Bury them, slap a grave stone on top and say a prayer for them. Hard to argue against that Hits but, as gtleighsr3 says, it's the fans that will suffer most. I thought FFP was supposed to prevent clubs from overspending and going to the wall but in this case it's basically driving the final nails in. FFP and PL/EFL finances need a complete review and something else put in place because FFP is clearly not working. Wankers  |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 14, 2022 22:25:02 GMT
Derby fans really think that they'll be liquidated. They have no assets to sell (A few players but they'll need replacing). The new owners would need to buy back the stadium etc so it's not an attractive place to buy. Good. Hope it happens. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 14, 2022 22:26:26 GMT
Hard to argue against that Hits but, as gtleighsr3 says, it's the fans that will suffer most. I thought FFP was supposed to prevent clubs from overspending and going to the wall but in this case it's basically driving the final nails in. FFP and PL/EFL finances need a complete review and something else put in place because FFP is clearly not working. Wankers View AttachmentDescribes every last one of them. Fuck em. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 15, 2022 18:29:14 GMT
Derby fans really think that they'll be liquidated. They have no assets to sell (A few players but they'll need replacing). The new owners would need to buy back the stadium etc so it's not an attractive place to buy. Good. Hope it happens. Why? No club should go bust because of shit owners. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 15, 2022 19:48:04 GMT
They have to sell assets,players are all they got. So i expect their cream to go soon. Then they fucked without the efl finishing them off. They had a go to be fair but it like pushing water up hill.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 15, 2022 19:56:43 GMT
Think all players got offered chance leave on free yesterday
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 15, 2022 20:01:07 GMT
They are more fucked they when the pikeys got demoted to the beds sun alliance pub league years ago.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 15, 2022 20:17:27 GMT
I can’t believe I’m saying this but Rooneys done very well. They’d be 10th without point deduction.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 15, 2022 20:29:06 GMT
Why? No club should go bust because of shit owners. There are only a couple of clubs I'd genuinely not be arsed about going bust, Derby is one. |
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