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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 20, 2021 6:56:43 GMT
Was there ever a time when market forces have not been dominant in professional sport?
This is just its latest iteration. As I said earlier, the market has no morals, so the people end up with the sport they've chosen. The businessmen owners are just the catalysts in the process. Unless you nationalise the industry (or clubs are owned by fans) this is the inevitable way it always goes. It's human nature.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 8:14:22 GMT
Exactly,u don't spend fortunes on a mega club if you don't think you can make tons back by exploiting every single revenue source out there.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 20, 2021 8:39:29 GMT
there's talks of city and chelsea getting cold feet due to the sheer meltdown and government condemnation lol.
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Post by Shania on Apr 20, 2021 9:03:14 GMT
Abandoned clubs hope to Play Euro League in the weekend and Championship midweek.
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Post by hal9thou on Apr 20, 2021 9:58:27 GMT
Unless you nationalise the industry yeah I mean if HMG were serious they would legislate to enforce a limitation on private ownership of clubs, Deutscheland style. As I've said many times the only thing that concerns Beej is his own advancement, he's muscling in on the spin around the issue but that's all he ever does, they wont actually do anything. None of it matters anyway because I'm still convinced this is a bargaining ploy to get a better CL deal out of UEFA. Don't ever forget how corrupt UEFA and FIFA have been in the past. Sepp - fucked the world for years, still a free man and hasn't paid a penny to anyone. That's real class. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 20, 2021 13:54:02 GMT
Beginning to worry that the six leeches won't be expelled/ break away. Would that the rest of football expel them and rebuild a competitive and fair league. Some dirty deal will he done, I suspect, and they'll get further advantages from staying. The mark of Cain is upon them. Get rid of them now. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Guardiola: “Sport is not a sport when the success is guaranteed.” 😂😂😂😂. Man City have spent £1bn to ensure success
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 13:59:22 GMT
If a deal is done now,nigh as well let them have it all. Show any weakness' now we fucked
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 14:18:45 GMT
The 6 have shown their hand very early on and deal or no deal the fans of United, Liverpool and Arsenal will not forget this and in Liverpool's case they have already got rid of one set of American owners based on how they ran the club
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 14:48:36 GMT
It's ok dont panic.knew it all along that they thinking of everyone. Real Madrid top dog says they doing it to save football.
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 16:43:23 GMT
Perez and Glazer as Chairman and Vice Chairman why would anyone doubt their motives. Oh I nearly forgot Levy who is the cherry on top of the cake.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 20, 2021 16:45:53 GMT
Still think it's all up in the air and that there are a few lawyers who are going to do very, very well out of this (no change there then).
So far Guardiola and (slightly more reserved) Klopp have spoken out against the idea of the ESL. Most fans are up in arms. Can the so-called 'Big Six' hold out against this almost universal anger against their plans?
I guess that might depend on how long the anger/protest is kept up.
In the meantime, nice comment on Twitter from Mark Steel:
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 16:58:33 GMT
Still think it's all up in the air and that there are a few lawyers who are going to do very, very well out of this (no change there then). So far Guardiola and (slightly more reserved) Klopp have spoken out against the idea of the ESL. Most fans are up in arms. Can the so-called 'Big Six' hold out against this almost universal anger against their plans? I guess that might depend on how long the anger/protest is kept up. In the meantime, nice comment on Twitter from Mark Steel: The Glazers have withstood 16 years of grief while taking out money out of United, Kroenke at Arsenal does not give a shit about that club and FSG are the same at Liverpool. All three American owned and following the models they know from the states |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 17:03:14 GMT
My youngest said,if not expelled,when crowdsback clubs should not take 1 tckt for aways at the 6. Then not 1 home fan should enter home time v them. Wont do nothing to change them but what a signal.
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 20, 2021 17:07:59 GMT
Very much agree with 77 and 73 on this.
I would even go further and revoke all 6 clubs sporting and athletic licences and barr them from all professional football matches at all levels.
As its not the players, staff, and managers faults, i would create 6 replacement clubs, an make an open offer to all players and staff to join them.
If they refuse to join the newly created clubs or refuse to transfer from any of the 6, then they should be banned from playing international football.
Lastly, install fan majority ownership in all 4 tiers of english football.
This is the chance us fans have been waiting for.
if only we had an fa and fl with bollocks to do something about this.
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 17:28:08 GMT
Lets see if Uefa boot Chelsea, City and Madrid out of the CL as they have suggested. American ownership is bad for the game as they do not give a shit about a clubs history. The Glazers are absolute parasites that need to be removed from football and Kroenke as well.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 20, 2021 17:32:03 GMT
Now don't take this the wrong way... BUT I have to applaud the actions of some Chelsea fans, who are blocking the road in a sit-down protest outside the ground prior to tonight's match against Brighton.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 17:33:35 GMT
That's fat Pete from watrb. He fell over again going home. Not a protest.
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 17:34:51 GMT
Now don't take this the wrong way... BUT I have to applaud the actions of some Chelsea fans, who are blocking the road in a sit-down protest outside the ground prior to tonight's match against Brighton. Fair play to them and Leeds last night and lets hope they sling this cartel out as there is no trust there anymore between them and the rest of the leagie |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 20, 2021 17:35:08 GMT
Is this supixt
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Post by West Acton on Apr 20, 2021 17:55:17 GMT
Breaking news Chelsea looking to withdraw
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Post by itsonlyagame on Apr 20, 2021 18:06:12 GMT
Breaking news Chelsea looking to withdraw What a complete joke these owners are. Did they seriously expect fans and authorities to just take it lying down. Just shows how out of touch they all are. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 18:08:27 GMT
Breaking news Chelsea looking to withdraw Them and City will withdraw 100% United, Arsenal absolutely no chance and Liverpool owners may well ride it out as well. Levy well he is just Levy so will follow the gravy train of greed. United should be looked at and given huge points deduction for now and the next 5 seasons minimum of 25 points a season as the ring leaders of this bollox. Devalues them players will leave and none will join which could result in those parasites being run out of the game. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 20, 2021 18:29:29 GMT
Apparently all 12 clubs are going to meet to discuss disbanding the ESL.
Common sense prevails, a win for the football fan.
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 20, 2021 18:31:55 GMT
Fuck. We're not getting rid of these leeches.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Apr 20, 2021 18:34:23 GMT
They still need to face harsh sanctions for signing up in the first place but I can't see the spineless FA doing that.
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 18:37:49 GMT
They still need to face harsh sanctions for signing up in the first place but I can't see the spineless FA doing that. United and Arsenal need to be punished for the next 5 years to make it impossible to achieve anything in european terms which would result in devaluing the franchise and maybe bring each club back towards a fans ownership as these two were clearly the driving force. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Apr 20, 2021 18:38:31 GMT
Thirty point deduction next season. Owners banned. £25m fines. Five year suspension from domestic and European cups. Three year transfer ban.
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Post by acricketer on Apr 20, 2021 18:39:34 GMT
ESL resolve seems to be crumbling now.
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Post by Greg1882 on Apr 20, 2021 18:39:35 GMT
Whatever happens those 6 should be hit with massive fines and points deductions. Let’s have this right they are only back tracking because of the outrage. They ALL wanted this euro league. I sincerely hope people don’t just forget that. Dirty cunts
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Post by 1973ranger on Apr 20, 2021 18:41:54 GMT
Thirty point deduction next season. Owners banned. £25m fines. Five year suspension from domestic and European cups. Three year transfer ban. Points deductions for 5 seasons hit them long term not one off. Not suprise Chelsea and City backed out as not yank owned |
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