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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 29, 2019 12:04:54 GMT
With add ons we'd accept that. 15+ add ons let’s talk. 12 + add ons go away Yes, and £20m no add ons. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 12:11:20 GMT
If he that good,sell on fee is no good,we need cash now,not when some club flog him in 10 years
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Post by 1qprdk on Dec 29, 2019 12:53:32 GMT
We should insist on at least 20 million plus addons including sell on clause to consider a deal. Sessegnon went for 25 and he´s a left back FFS.
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 29, 2019 13:09:44 GMT
Last minute attempt from Sheffield Utd to hijack a deal isn't it? I'd honestly have my mortgage on the deal with Spurs being very close to signed and sealed. Those 2 youngster being recalled yesterday to me just seems to back up rumours that have been circulating for a week or 2 about a deal for Eze with Spurs involving a couple of youngsters coming the other way far too well to be ignored.
Ain't being funny, but you ain't going to Sheffield Utd if you are Eze and Spurs are interested. We also ain't accepting 12m from them when Spurs are offering cash plus players that will improve the squad.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 13:15:37 GMT
Even fleas don't want to go to Sheffield
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 13:16:33 GMT
Rumour that freeman could be off from tup norf too
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Post by Corbray on Dec 29, 2019 13:27:23 GMT
no way would i sell eze to sheff utd as we'll no doubt include a sell on fee. even if eze goes on to be an england international at sheff utd whats the most they'd get for him? 30-40m probs if they sold him in a few years as they're not a big club. spurs could command double that easily.
plus there are players at spurs that we'd want as part of the deal for eze. carter-vickers would sweeten the deal for sure amd could come good for us in time. think hes been sent out on too many loans to properly establish himself but he'd have the chance to develop here.
wouldn't bother with jack clarke on loan either as what good will that bring us this season? if we do sell eze then surely chair would be his natural air rather than clarke on loan for 6 months where we have nothing to gain but are instead helping spurs again
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 13:41:00 GMT
We should insist on at least 20 million plus addons including sell on clause to consider a deal. Sessegnon went for 25 and he´s a left back FFS. As I said before, it's different. Sessegnon played consistently well for a successful team in this division and had Premier League experience in addition. Eze hasn't always been consistent for a average/poor Championship side and has no Premier League experience. Tottenham will be looking to see how he plays against the best teams in this division as they will be akin to playing against the worst teams in the Premier League. If he isn't playing consistently well against teams who will be among the worse in the Premier League than why would they be interested in spending big money on a chance? If Spurs are interested it won't be for much more than £12m and he will either go straight back out on loan or spend 2-3 years with the U23 and occasional appearances for Spurs. The only way someone was going to spend £20m on Eze is if we were near the top of the division and he was the best player on the pitch every single week. We're not, he's not and although he is a prospect he's not a player who has proved he deserves a big money transfer to one of the better teams in the country. God,can u be my divorce lawyer |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 29, 2019 14:36:29 GMT
SWL, you are massively downplaying how good Eze has been this year.
I made the comparison with Mason Mount earlier on this thread. Bit of perspective, at the halfway point of this season, Eze already has more goals and more assists than Mount got in the whole of last season for Derby. This season Mount is in the matchday squad for a top 4 side every week, he's regularly chipping in with goals and assists and looks every bit a Premier League standard player.
I know in the past we've been guilty as fans of maybe overvalueing players we've had here (Austin and Smithies being 2 that spring to mind). Don't think that's the case here. Eze should be fetching top dollar in the current transfer market.
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Post by 1qprdk on Dec 29, 2019 14:53:27 GMT
SWL, you are massively downplaying how good Eze has been this year. I made the comparison with Mason Mount earlier on this thread. Bit of perspective, at the halfway point of this season, Eze already has more goals and more assists than Mount got in the whole of last season for Derby. This season Mount is in the matchday squad for a top 4 side every week, he's regularly chipping in with goals and assists and looks every bit a Premier League standard player. I know in the past we've been guilty as fans of maybe overvalueing players we've had here (Austin and Smithies being 2 that spring to mind). Don't think that's the case here. Eze should be fetching top dollar in the current transfer market. Derby were at the top of the league and Mount was already on Chelsea's books. Eze has played exclusively for a mid table side, inconsistently as well, and came to us after being released by Millwall. Mount was effective in most games he played for Derby whereas for every performance against Luton, Eze has a performance against West Brom : a side who will struggle in the Premier League.
We, rightly, moan about inflated fees and yet, perhaps naturally, are guilty of encouraging the practice when one of ours is to be sold.Sure enough, but why should we be the only whore to bend over and take it in the bum for free, when everyone else demands an inflated fee for their service? |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 29, 2019 15:06:22 GMT
Not sure I understand the point about Mount already being on Chelsea's books mate. End of the day, Lampard has been bold and decided that him and Abraham are good enough when many people said they weren't. He's been proven right and it's paying dividends.
And Eze hasn't been inconsistent at all this season. The lad has shown up more or less every week and has been our best player by a country mile.
Alright, Eze has come through a different journey to the top, but different players develop at different rates and have to overcome different obstacles. For me, Eze's always had the ability but this season he's turned up with an improved attitude and work rate. Warburton has got something out of him that Ollie and McClaren couldn't. The fact it's taken him a couple of seasons to piece all this together doesn't mean we should let him go on the cheap.
End of the day a player is worth whatever a side is willing to pay. For me, far worse players than Eze are being touted around for far more than the 20m that I reckon Eze is worth in the current transfer market!
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 15:10:52 GMT
You can't get a zesh reihman for 4 million these days
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Post by Corbray on Dec 29, 2019 16:01:05 GMT
We should insist on at least 20 million plus addons including sell on clause to consider a deal. Sessegnon went for 25 and he´s a left back FFS. As I said before, it's different. Sessegnon played consistently well for a successful team in this division and had Premier League experience in addition. Eze hasn't always been consistent for a average/poor Championship side and has no Premier League experience. Tottenham will be looking to see how he plays against the best teams in this division as they will be akin to playing against the worst teams in the Premier League. If he isn't playing consistently well against teams who will be among the worse in the Premier League than why would they be interested in spending big money on a chance? If Spurs are interested it won't be for much more than £12m and he will either go straight back out on loan or spend 2-3 years with the U23 and occasional appearances for Spurs. The only way someone was going to spend £20m on Eze is if we were near the top of the division and he was the best player on the pitch every single week. We're not, he's not and although he is a prospect he's not a player who has proved he deserves a big money transfer to one of the better teams in the country. gotta take into account the quality of players he'll have round him at spurs though which will elevate his game and cover him too. hes torn it up this season and without his influence you could argue that we'd have been in a relegation battle. cracking player who could slot into spurs as a replacement for erikson imo |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 29, 2019 17:57:10 GMT
Did you see a poor performance from Eze today? Harsh critic in my opinion if you did. If our keeper could catch a football, Hughill had remembered to stick his foot out when he's trying to tap in a ball from 2 yards and we could defend a cross we'd have comfortably won that 2-0 and Eze would have played an important part in that.
He doesn't need to single handedly win games for us every week to be good enough for the Premier League mate. Mount certainly wasn't single handedly winning games for Derby last season either.
Anyway, doesn't seem we'll agree on this one so let's just wait and see what happens in the transfer window!
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 29, 2019 18:15:32 GMT
Chair was our best player out there today. But there were a few touches from Eze that just oozed class.
And 20m quid is absolute pocket change in the Prem these days.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 29, 2019 18:18:01 GMT
£9:80 for chips and bit of fish at arsenal,prem stupid cash
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Post by esoxlucius on Dec 29, 2019 19:40:05 GMT
Dom Ball deserves a mention for today too IMO.
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Post by shepherdsmush on Dec 29, 2019 23:51:30 GMT
Is Eze bulletproof from being substituted ?
Thought going 2 up top today was a decent shout but to sacrifice Chair when he was having his best game all season? Couple of players easily ahead of him to be hooked IMO. Can imagine the meltdown on here if Eze had gone though....especially if the game still turned out as a loss.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 30, 2019 7:53:04 GMT
Is Eze bulletproof from being substituted ? Thought going 2 up top today was a decent shout but to sacrifice Chair when he was having his best game all season? Couple of players easily ahead of him to be hooked IMO. Can imagine the meltdown on here if Eze had gone though....especially if the game still turned out as a loss. agree I said pull him myself. Certainly would not have taken off Amos |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 10:10:33 GMT
Hugill went for 10 2 years ago so start at 18 to 20 million at least
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2019 14:17:30 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 14:24:15 GMT
We should stand firm if no offers come in that work for us. We don't need to sell him this window.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 31, 2019 14:26:25 GMT
Nice to see if true we have set our price high
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 14:46:07 GMT
Nice to see if true we have set our price high Window isn't even open yet mate. I think this is absolutely the right tactic. Set our price, stick to it and see what transpires. If nobody offers what we deem to be acceptable he plays for us til the end of the season. As long as he stays injury free, Eze fetches probably at least the same in the summer. He has a long deal, he doesn't seem unsettled and he's playing the best football of his career. Warburton seems a good man manager. I'm sure he's probably telling Eze to just keep doing what he's doing and he'll get his big move whether it be this window or the next. |
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 31, 2019 15:19:25 GMT
Contract ends in June 2021... We can afford to take this stance once as he can arrange a free transfer in December 2020. Yeah, fair enough mate. I'd actually thought he had a year longer than that. Either way, no need to pull our pants down yet. Got a whole month of the window ahead of us! |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 2, 2020 10:26:22 GMT
Wonder if Eze would be gutted if he doesn't move to the PL in January or if he is simply happy to carry on his development ?
I'd be amazed if he pulled a "Freeman strop" if he didn't get a move.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 2, 2020 13:12:09 GMT
Wonder if Eze would be gutted if he doesn't move to the PL in January or if he is simply happy to carry on his development ? I'd be amazed if he pulled a "Freeman strop" if he didn't get a move. i doubt he'd kick off. the club would have talked to him about it for sure. freeman was 27 when he got his move and that came after working hard down in league 1 and the championship so he had to really earn his move and at 27 he probably wouldn't have gotten another shot in the prem. eze seems to love it here and has a good head on his shoulders, he knows time is on his side and fhat he'll be gone in the summer at the latest |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 2, 2020 13:18:16 GMT
Wonder if Eze would be gutted if he doesn't move to the PL in January or if he is simply happy to carry on his development ? I'd be amazed if he pulled a "Freeman strop" if he didn't get a move. i doubt he'd kick off. the club would have talked to him about it for sure. freeman was 27 when he got his move and that came after working hard down in league 1 and the championship so he had to really earn his move and at 27 he probably wouldn't have gotten another shot in the prem. eze seems to love it here and has a good head on his shoulders, he knows time is on his side and fhat he'll be gone in the summer at the latest I wouldn't be surprised to see Freeman back in the Championship either this window or next! |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 2, 2020 13:32:47 GMT
i doubt he'd kick off. the club would have talked to him about it for sure. freeman was 27 when he got his move and that came after working hard down in league 1 and the championship so he had to really earn his move and at 27 he probably wouldn't have gotten another shot in the prem. eze seems to love it here and has a good head on his shoulders, he knows time is on his side and fhat he'll be gone in the summer at the latest I wouldn't be surprised to see Freeman back in the Championship either this window or next! flat track bully comes to mind Thought we would be better side without him and we are |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 2, 2020 15:18:11 GMT
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