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Post by West Acton on Aug 16, 2024 19:17:20 GMT
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Post by The General on Aug 16, 2024 19:19:04 GMT
Looks like he is staying then
Unless someone bids 65 million
Palace now have the power not Eze
Is he actually worth 65 million
40 million more like tbh
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Post by The General on Aug 16, 2024 19:21:13 GMT
City do need him though
Rodri cannot play all the games
De Bryne going next year
Injuries still think they will bid
They are well short now
Alvarez also going
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Post by 1qprdk on Aug 16, 2024 19:54:45 GMT
City do need him though Rodri cannot play all the games De Bryne going next year Injuries still think they will bid They are well short now Alvarez also going Gone already, no? Hate it when players with insane potential go to warm the bench at City. Alvarez trajectory has been poor since joining pepsico Eze would just be another body there to make up the numbers. Hope they'll be fucked off to nonleague sooner rather than later. Cheats. |
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Post by acricketer on Aug 17, 2024 1:37:52 GMT
Looks like he is staying then Unless someone bids 65 million Palace now have the power not Eze Is he actually worth 65 million 40 million more like tbh Is Grealish worth 60m more than Eze? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 17, 2024 6:28:34 GMT
Looks like he is staying then Unless someone bids 65 million Palace now have the power not Eze Is he actually worth 65 million 40 million more like tbh Is Grealish worth 60m more than Eze? No, that was a crazy signing. He’s ok, a bit one trick though and it doesn’t come across that Guardiola is that impressed. I could see Eze doing well in that team. I think he’d start as often as any of the ones that are rotated regularly. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 8:29:07 GMT
If the buy out clause has expired maybe we will now see some bids come in to test Palace at a lower level that other clubs will be more comfortable with. Buy out clauses work both ways - they give the player the power to say I'm off if the clause is met but also give the club the ability to say meet the buy out figure or go away. It is now a free market and if they get Saha back maybe there will be some movement.
I'm not sure why a player or club would agree to a buy out clause with an expiry date.
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Post by Hertfordshire Ranger on Aug 17, 2024 8:36:28 GMT
If the buy out clause has expired maybe we will now see some bids come in to test Palace at a lower level that other clubs will be more comfortable with. Buy out clauses work both ways - they give the player the power to say I'm off if the clause is met but also give the club the ability to say meet the buy out figure or go away. It is now a free market and if they get Saha back maybe there will be some movement. I read that there is now no chance of Zaha returning because of the taxation ramifications he would face. I think with regard to Eze, he and his camp have been very quiet, and Palace have not been saying anything one way or the other. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave and progress? Or is it that he will only move to a London club? But what we do know is that clubs enquire and then lose interest it seems. Palace asking for too much up front from the buy-out clause. Of course, if he goes for less, or in a complicated exchange deal, QPR get far less. I can see some scheming to avoid the sell-on. Have to say, looks more like he is going nowhere now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 10:32:37 GMT
If the buy out clause has expired maybe we will now see some bids come in to test Palace at a lower level that other clubs will be more comfortable with. Buy out clauses work both ways - they give the player the power to say I'm off if the clause is met but also give the club the ability to say meet the buy out figure or go away. It is now a free market and if they get Saha back maybe there will be some movement. I read that there is now no chance of Zaha returning because of the taxation ramifications he would face. I think with regard to Eze, he and his camp have been very quiet, and Palace have not been saying anything one way or the other. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave and progress? Or is it that he will only move to a London club? But what we do know is that clubs enquire and then lose interest it seems. Palace asking for too much up front from the buy-out clause. Of course, if he goes for less, or in a complicated exchange deal, QPR get far less. I can see some scheming to avoid the sell-on. Have to say, looks more like he is going nowhere now. Interesting point about an exchange deal. I have no idea how that works when there is a sell on clause with his previous club. I would hope that for example if Eze is sold to Arsenal with an Arsenal forward going the other way, there would be a value fixed for both players. For example Eze valued at 50million and the Arsenal man valued at 30 million. In that case Palace would receive "only" 20 million cash and our sell on clause if based on cash exchanged becomes close to worthless. If however the sell on clause is based on his exchange value of 50million we would be getting a reasonable amount in. Knowing the way of the world the former method would be applied but this would be a giant loophole in sell on clauses and Palace would be laughing all the way to the bank. As I say no idea how it works but I get the feeling Eze is going nowhere which I think would be a bad move at this stage of his career. He should at least be playing some european football on top of his England cameos. |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 17, 2024 11:14:38 GMT
Can’t see an exchange happening. When did a prem club last do player exchange and cash? Is it even allowed nowadays for accounting etc
Used to be common practise when I started following the game.
The mood music for Eze going has been very low key from end of last season hence why never thought he would be sold. Hope he don’t run his contract down that would be a kick in the spuds.
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Post by hal9thou on Aug 17, 2024 11:15:41 GMT
I read that there is now no chance of Zaha returning because of the taxation ramifications he would face. I think with regard to Eze, he and his camp have been very quiet, and Palace have not been saying anything one way or the other. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave and progress? Or is it that he will only move to a London club? But what we do know is that clubs enquire and then lose interest it seems. Palace asking for too much up front from the buy-out clause. Of course, if he goes for less, or in a complicated exchange deal, QPR get far less. I can see some scheming to avoid the sell-on. Have to say, looks more like he is going nowhere now. Interesting point about an exchange deal. I have no idea how that works when there is a sell on clause with his previous club. I would hope that for example if Eze is sold to Arsenal with an Arsenal forward going the other way, there would be a value fixed for both players. For example Eze valued at 50million and the Arsenal man valued at 30 million. In that case Palace would receive "only" 20 million cash and our sell on clause if based on cash exchanged becomes close to worthless. If however the sell on clause is based on his exchange value of 50million we would be getting a reasonable amount in. Knowing the way of the world the former method would be applied but this would be a giant loophole in sell on clauses and Palace would be laughing all the way to the bank. As I say no idea how it works but I get the feeling Eze is going nowhere which I think would be a bad move at this stage of his career. He should at least be playing some european football on top of his England cameos. You specify the T&C applicable in the event of a subsequent exchange as opposed to a direct sale, ie you can specify a higher % in the event of the former or you can rule out a sell on in the form of an exchange altogether. It's then up to the buyer (ie CPFC) to accomodate, negotiate or walk away. Hoos would have been doing our negotiating on this particular deal. Make of that what you will. |
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 17, 2024 11:26:59 GMT
Can’t see an exchange happening. When did a prem club last do player exchange and cash? Is it even allowed nowadays for accounting etc Used to be common practise when I started following the game. The mood music for Eze going has been very low key from end of last season hence why never thought he would be sold. Hope he don’t run his contract down that would be a kick in the spuds. The league actually came out and clarified their stance on this after a few questionable bits of business were done involving home grown players this summer. www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4nge0l7e1poGotta be honest, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for clubs to get around or reduce sell ons to some extent by doing deals involving multiple players and pushing the transfer fee down on the player with the sell on. |
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Post by awin on Aug 17, 2024 11:40:06 GMT
Can’t see an exchange happening. When did a prem club last do player exchange and cash? Is it even allowed nowadays for accounting etc Used to be common practise when I started following the game. The mood music for Eze going has been very low key from end of last season hence why never thought he would be sold. Hope he don’t run his contract down that would be a kick in the spuds. The league actually came out and clarified their stance on this after a few questionable bits of business were done involving home grown players this summer. www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4nge0l7e1poGotta be honest, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for clubs to get around or reduce sell ons to some extent by doing deals involving multiple players and pushing the transfer fee down on the player with the sell on. Just as we did with Luongo and Gladwin. |
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 17, 2024 11:52:08 GMT
The league actually came out and clarified their stance on this after a few questionable bits of business were done involving home grown players this summer. www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4nge0l7e1poGotta be honest, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for clubs to get around or reduce sell ons to some extent by doing deals involving multiple players and pushing the transfer fee down on the player with the sell on. Just as we did with Luongo and Gladwin. Exactly! |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 17, 2024 11:55:48 GMT
The league actually came out and clarified their stance on this after a few questionable bits of business were done involving home grown players this summer. www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c4nge0l7e1poGotta be honest, I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility for clubs to get around or reduce sell ons to some extent by doing deals involving multiple players and pushing the transfer fee down on the player with the sell on. Just as we did with Luongo and Gladwin. quite some time ago. Can’t think of any examples last five years or since FFP been a thing. |
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 17, 2024 11:58:52 GMT
Westy, surely you've got to admit some of the deals done for homegrown players this summer were right moody? Clubs scratching each others backs taking young players off their hands for inflated fees to ensure they meet their FFP obligations. If those types of deals can happen, I'm sure another Luongo/Gladwin type deal could easily happen too.
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Post by The General on Aug 17, 2024 14:02:49 GMT
Palace just turned down 60 million
for the defender from Newcastle
There playing hardball atm
That’s a great bid tbf
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 18, 2024 14:59:13 GMT
Denied fabulous goal today by bollocks refereeing.
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Post by acricketer on Aug 18, 2024 15:21:30 GMT
Hopefully now he's back showing off what a player he is there will be offers in for him.
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Post by Bill on Aug 19, 2024 15:05:34 GMT
Real Madrid beckons ?
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 29, 2024 15:03:26 GMT
Eze has signed for Spurs this afternoon LOL but if we had the money tomorrow it would be useful. What's the latest on our 20% sell-on clause? Has that expired now? |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 29, 2024 15:15:46 GMT
Why would it expire Stan?
What has apparently expired is the buyout clause.
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Post by coneysboots on Aug 29, 2024 15:21:53 GMT
Why would it expire Stan? What has apparently expired is the buyout clause. That is my take ont his as well. So with the release clause gone, it's less likely he will go, but if he does, we will probably get more. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2024 15:31:29 GMT
Sell on fee definitely not gone and I cannot understand why a buy out clause would expire either
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 29, 2024 20:43:57 GMT
What's the latest on our 20% sell-on clause? Has that expired now? Why would it expire Stan? What has apparently expired is the buyout clause. Sorry, buyout clause is what I meant. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 30, 2024 6:34:00 GMT
Sell on fee definitely not gone and I cannot understand why a buy out clause would expire either Palace wiser than what we were. If Remy's buy out clause had expired two weeks before deadline day we could have stayed in the Premier League for one season longer. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 30, 2024 7:07:40 GMT
Assume only way it would run out is if Eze runs down his contract - unless we somehow persuaded Palace to give us a percentage of the sell-on clause now in return for scrapping it (something I might have been tempted to do if I were Noury). Shame Eze's buy out clause was set at 60m as unrealistic and probably frightened off potential suitors.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 30, 2024 7:42:57 GMT
What would have been ideal is we hadn’t fucked up twice our prem status and Eze be strutting his stuff still with us. Palace are nothing special just bigger ground . They a pretty dull side. Never challenge occasionally flirt with relegation.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 30, 2024 7:51:38 GMT
In my view buy out clause (something Eze side would negotiate) different to sell on clause (something we negotiate in sale)
Perhaps Eze agreement with palace is release clause for set period if no one breaches it expires then any offers are in hands of Palace to agree or reject.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2024 8:10:18 GMT
In my view buy out clause (something Eze side would negotiate) different to sell on clause (something we negotiate in sale) Perhaps Eze agreement with palace is release clause for set period if no one breaches it expires then any offers are in hands of Palace to agree or reject. I always thought the buy out clause was a protection for both the player and he club. In Eze's case he would be protected in that if he progressed and say Real Madrid offered the buy out amount Palace would be guaranteed at the least the buy out amount and Eze could not be prevented from moving to further his career. In general that would mean a better balance between club and player power. If the buy out clause lasts for the whole contract it does not avoid the Willock type situation of Eze running down his contract. The only potential loser with the buy out clause is us. If no-one matches the clause and Eze runs down his contract we get nothing from the sell on clause or if Palace sell him cut price with a year or 6 months on his contract we get less. |
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