Sinclair Armstrong

What goalscoring stats are you talking about ‘OLDR’ both have got just 1 goal each this season and Armstrong has a nailed on assist.

Armstrong has played every game from memory and other than the last 2 games he’s had a regular impact on the rest of games played with his pace and physicality.

What impact has Dykes had on our games this season other than his goal against Swansea?

This will be the 3rd time I’ve asked this question that both Stan and Jimmy failed to answer!!

What regular attributes does Dykes bring to QPR when he plays?

That not 100% certain but would probably agree as Armstrong is seldom seen heading the ball, Would Donkey have outpaced the defenders down the wing to provide an assist for Paals goal?

You are quite correct Dykes isn’t great and of a certain standard he’s fucking shite. My vote on QPR worst ever striker being Dykes was not a protest vote but taken in the right manner.

Its rather apt you again failed to describe what Dykes does best for QPR.

I’ve seen plenty going back to the likes of Alan Wilks, Dykes wins it by a landslide because of how many games he’s played and him being so poor in 99% of them.

How many games has Dykes made an obvious impact?

What are Dykes best/regular attributes?

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree as I suspect there's no changing minds here.

However, as far as we're allowed to form our own opinions on subjective matters, we're not allowed to choose our own facts.

Regardless of how low your opinion of Dykes is he still has a far superior goal scoring record than Armstrong. In fact, the latter has a worse ratio than Mark Hateley (1 in 6.6), Sammy Koejoe (1 in 11.3), Lee Charles (1 in 18) and Eric Sabin (1 in 16), and there is a significant risk that if we don't bring someone else in and use him far more sparingly he will end up still being worse than those.

We all want him to succeed. 

Wow 😳

I can only see a balanced, fair and open debate here sparks mate.

No one is ripping lumps out of anyone.

You and others have failed to answer my question about what does Dykes bring to QPR, why is that?

At what point is it fair to say to ignore Ainsworth horrendous stats from last season yet you decide it’s fine for you to incorporate Armstrongs stats from last season?

You may call it a straw man argument but I will call it selective use of previous info on both individuals.

This isn’t about wether I doubt you or anyone here wants Armstrong to succeed it’s about being perfectly fair and measured with the criticism he’s getting for 2 below games where the whole team have been poor.

I/we have answered it. But just to be clear - Lyndon Dykes, as shit as he is for QPR, has a less shit scoring ratio than Sinclair Armstrong and, as we know, goal scoring is ultimately what strikers are judged on.

You are taking that as me criticising Armstrong, which I'm not, because I have made very clear that he is a young player who is still learning and developing and I very much hope that continues so he can start banging them in for us on a more regular basis. 


I didn't. They were not from last season. I already said they are Armstrong's stats for this season.

And re Ainsworth - that was a totally separate debate on a separate thread.

What don’t you understand about bringing a 20yr into his first season in men’s football as a first team starter.

Dykes has been playing men’s football for at least 5 years, Armstrong has been doing the same for 1 yr so allowances need to be made to see if Armstrong progresses.

Your opinion that Dykes is the better option is not the same as mine, even at this early stage of his development Armstrong offers far more than Donkey imo.

I’m glad your not our manager if you can come to a firm decision that Armstrong is crap after 2 poor games, yet think that Dykes is the better option after 3yrs of being a Donkey here.

If Armstrong was a proper goal scorer he really should have three more goals to his name in the last two games alone.

The miss first half against Swansea. No defender near him, no pressure and he failed to even hit the target! missed the goal entirely from 10yards no defence can be made for that.

Birmingham and some might say I’m being harsh, but first half Ruddy parry’s ball in six yard box and it’s free for couple of seconds. Once it’s free that should be buried. Second half ruddy parry’s again hits field goes wide. Armstrong should be all over the ball from the first parry before keeper gets chance claw it into field. These are easy pickings for out and out strikers.

Offer those three chances to billy sharp and he scores three times. Armstrong don’t smell goals and I don’t think you can coach that.

I don’t think he’s shit overall, far from it, but it’s clear as day he’s not a forward as he don’t have the composure or the instinct. Sooner club accepts this quicker they can do the lad a service and work with making him better player in his right position, probably out wide, and then get a proper striker in.

Look at difference between him and that Fulham lad at brum. One is built like a garage, the other a natural goal scorer

We agree that he's not ready for this yet due to his youth and has been forced into this situation due to the mismanagement of the club in general.

No one is saying that he won't make it, in fact, most posters are saying what they want to see happen to allow him to fulfill his potential.

However, part of that dialogue revolves around his goal scoring record which is awful. Regardless of the reasons why it is so poor, and we would probably agree it is due to his age and lack of experience, we can't pretend it doesn't exist.

You asked what people think Dykes adds to the team that Armstrong doesn't and have been pointed in their respective goal ratio records by a number of persons. Dykes scores a QPR goal once every four matches, Armstrong once every 27.

It's a results business and if we don't score goals we don't win and if we don't win we go down.

Nobody thinks Dykes is great, nobody knows for certain whether or not Armstrong will prove himself to be a better player. But we can only express facts that exist and the facts state quite clearly and without any ambiguity that Lydon Dykes is more statistically likely to score than Sinclair Armstrong.

THAT'S what he brings to the team.

You can agree to whatever you want, no one is convincing me that Dykes is a average striker , he’s fucking shit mate.