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Post by Tarbie on Dec 20, 2023 10:35:01 GMT
Like you say Matty, he has all the attributes to be a really top forward. Possibly even in a better league than the Championship in my opinion. He remains such a rough diamond though, and I don't see 20 minute cameos and games in the reserves fixing that. A season of playing 2 full first team games a week might though. With regards to sending him to the continent, I personally don't think it would do him any harm getting kicked up in the air a bit in the lower leagues. Good learning experience for him.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 20, 2023 13:06:29 GMT
If he goes out then it will be a “he’s not going to make it here” loan, not a “develop him for future” loan. He’s 20 ffs, should be haunting Donkey for his place. Matty is bang on about his showing at Sheffield. Shodipo2, the sequel.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 13:56:52 GMT
If he goes out then it will be a “he’s not going to make it here” loan, not a “develop him for future” loan. He’s 20 ffs, should be haunting Donkey for his place. Matty is bang on about his showing at Sheffield. Shodipo2, the sequel. Very harsh in my opinion. If those happy to sing his praises to the extent they are after 1 goal in the football league - in addition to 4 in the National and none in the League of Ireland - are going over the top, so are those willing to write him off He's 20 years old, a kid
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 20, 2023 14:03:43 GMT
Like you say Matty, he has all the attributes to be a really top forward. Possibly even in a better league than the Championship in my opinion. He remains such a rough diamond though, and I don't see 20 minute cameos and games in the reserves fixing that. A season of playing 2 full first team games a week might though. With regards to sending him to the continent, I personally don't think it would do him any harm getting kicked up in the air a bit in the lower leagues. Good learning experience for him. Never in a million years. A bit of a muscle and a decent 100m don't make you a Saka. You need touch and the ability to sit a defender or two on his arse.
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Post by acricketer on Dec 20, 2023 15:10:06 GMT
He's good he's bad he's better than your dad!
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Post by Bill on Dec 20, 2023 20:41:48 GMT
If he goes out then it will be a “he’s not going to make it here” loan, not a “develop him for future” loan. He’s 20 ffs, should be haunting Donkey for his place. Matty is bang on about his showing at Sheffield. Shodipo2, the sequel. Blimey who rattled your cage 🙂
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Post by Bill on Dec 20, 2023 20:43:25 GMT
Like you say Matty, he has all the attributes to be a really top forward. Possibly even in a better league than the Championship in my opinion. He remains such a rough diamond though, and I don't see 20 minute cameos and games in the reserves fixing that. A season of playing 2 full first team games a week might though. With regards to sending him to the continent, I personally don't think it would do him any harm getting kicked up in the air a bit in the lower leagues. Good learning experience for him. Never in a million years. A bit of a muscle and a decent 100m don't make you a Saka. You need touch and the ability to sit a defender or two on his arse. Saka is a full England international.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 20, 2023 21:25:32 GMT
If he goes out then it will be a “he’s not going to make it here” loan, not a “develop him for future” loan. He’s 20 ffs, should be haunting Donkey for his place. Matty is bang on about his showing at Sheffield. Shodipo2, the sequel. Blimey who rattled your cage 🙂 I just think that if we’re not going to add to our squad we should keep him here and try to do something with him. At least he has pace, something we don’t have a lot of in the side. Maybe try him wide, maybe just use him to try and create a bit of panic towards end of games. If we really only have him Donkey and Kolli then I can’t see the point of sending him out.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 22, 2023 15:23:04 GMT
Never in a million years. A bit of a muscle and a decent 100m don't make you a Saka. You need touch and the ability to sit a defender or two on his arse. Saka is a full England international. I think others were saying that Armstrong had the ability to be a top player at a higher level. Saka made his England debut age 19, a year younger than Armstrong is now, and is therefore obviously a top player at a higher level. I was just pointing out how far away Armstrong is from being anywhere near that level. People on here get carried away far too easily; does anyone remember when Smyth first came everyone was a fanboy - on the flimsiest evidence? Wanting Armstrong to do well is one thing, imagining him to be top class is another.
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Post by Bill on Dec 22, 2023 15:53:20 GMT
Saka is a full England international. I think others were saying that Armstrong had the ability to be a top player at a higher level. Saka made his England debut age 19, a year younger than Armstrong is now, and is therefore obviously a top player at a higher level. I was just pointing out how far away Armstrong is from being anywhere near that level. People on here get carried away far too easily; does anyone remember when Smyth first came everyone was a fanboy - on the flimsiest evidence? Wanting Armstrong to do well is one thing, imagining him to be top class is another. Saka is a very unfair comparison. Saka plays top level with top level players who have better skills,vision and experience than the crop of dirge we have at Rangers at the moment. Colback....useless Chair has his moments but overplays. Dozzell is Dozzell. Field defensively good not so good going forward. Dykes is Dykes. Smyth is Smyth. Crosses are poor,free kicks are poor,corners atrocious. My opinion
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 22, 2023 16:39:45 GMT
I would so like you to be right about him Bill, I really would. I love seeing a young player make it - and it would save us a few mill😁 - but I can’t see it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2023 16:47:42 GMT
Saka is a full England international. I think others were saying that Armstrong had the ability to be a top player at a higher level. Saka made his England debut age 19, a year younger than Armstrong is now, and is therefore obviously a top player at a higher level. I was just pointing out how far away Armstrong is from being anywhere near that level. People on here get carried away far too easily; does anyone remember when Smyth first came everyone was a fanboy - on the flimsiest evidence? Wanting Armstrong to do well is one thing, imagining him to be top class is another. The praise of Armstrong has a tendency to go OTT, so does some of the criticism to be fair. As said a few times before he's scored ONE goal for us and has an appalling goals per minutes played record. He also failed to set the National League or League of Ireland alight so there is zero evidence that we have this amazing great goalscorer on our books. On the other hand, he is 20 years old and has the next 3 seasons to morph into something better than he is now. Far from being the greatest prospect to emerge from our ranks, he's certainly isn't the worst and has enough attributes to possibly make a successful career. However, it wouldn't be QPR if we didn't have extreme polarised opinions on some of players.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2023 16:48:56 GMT
I would so like you to be right about him Bill, I really would. I love seeing a young player make it - and it would save us a few mill😁 - but I can’t see it. I hope Bill amd Sparks make the most of telling us how right they were all along when we sell him for £30m.
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Post by Bill on Dec 22, 2023 17:09:50 GMT
I would so like you to be right about him Bill, I really would. I love seeing a young player make it - and it would save us a few mill😁 - but I can’t see it. I hope Bill amd Sparks make the most of telling us how right they were all along when we sell him for £30m. Better start a whip round now then
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Post by The General on Dec 22, 2023 18:29:27 GMT
This player has not materialised into what
we thought he would with all the hype
Or is this just a harsh statement
We need 2 strikers now because of this
Needs a mentor or he will fade into dust
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2023 19:00:05 GMT
This player has not materialised into what we thought he would with all the hype Or is this just a harsh statement We need 2 strikers now because of this Needs a mentor or he will fade into dust If we're being honest- and I accept some will disagree with this- there should have been very little hype about him. He wasn't an Allen, Gallen or even Dichio in the youth ranks and hasn't even a decent record elsewhere to show that he merits such acclaim already. There is also every possibility that he was promoted to the first team before he was ready as part of the Les Ferdinand plan to use QPR to promote 'positive discrimination' which manifested itself in the transfer policy over a number of seasons but this is conjecture, of course.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 22, 2023 19:10:54 GMT
Nothing to do with Les, he got hyped up because we’re so desperate to have an alternative to Donkey. Actually, I suppose you could say THAT IS to do with Les and eight years trying to be a DOF😁
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Post by Bill on Dec 23, 2023 12:08:15 GMT
Nothing to do with Les, he got hyped up because we’re so desperate to have an alternative to Donkey. Actually, I suppose you could say THAT IS to do with Les and eight years trying to be a DOF😁 And donkey trying to be a striker.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 23, 2023 13:49:39 GMT
has been caught offside more than any other player in the entire Championship this season. If you wanted to be super-kind you could call him “raw”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 13:53:22 GMT
Nothing to do with Les, he got hyped up because we’re so desperate to have an alternative to Donkey. Actually, I suppose you could say THAT IS to do with Les and eight years trying to be a DOF😁 Dykes was semi respected by a significant portion of the fanbase at the start of 2022/23. The hype Armstrong had coming into the First Team has very little to do with him and, in my opinion, thats retrospective application of bias against Dykes.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 23, 2023 14:01:58 GMT
Nothing to do with Les, he got hyped up because we’re so desperate to have an alternative to Donkey. Actually, I suppose you could say THAT IS to do with Les and eight years trying to be a DOF😁 Dykes was semi respected by a significant portion of the fanbase at the start of 2022/23. The hype Armstrong had coming into the First Team has very little to do with him and, in my opinion, thats retrospective application of bias against Dykes. Read the Dykes thread from day one and see how quickly opinion changed.
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Post by Bill on Dec 23, 2023 14:31:45 GMT
Dykes failure has put more pressure on Sinclair.
Expectations are sky high due to the above,to the extent he gets compared to Saka If he is not good enough as main striker play him wide or some other role. There is a player in there imo.
Comparison Ferdinand was playing for Hayes at his age and rest is history.
Give him confidence time and patience. If we go down and if he is still here he will be handy in League 1. We need wins,not draws to stand any chance.
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Post by acricketer on Dec 23, 2023 14:57:53 GMT
Dykes failure has put more pressure on Sinclair. Expectations are sky high due to the above,to the extent he gets compared to Saka If he is not good enough as main striker play him wide or some other role. There is a player in there imo. Comparison Ferdinand was playing for Hayes at his age and rest is history. Give him confidence time and patience. If we go down and if he is still here he will be handy in League 1. We need wins,not draws to stand any chance. Let's send him to Hayes then!
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Post by Bill on Dec 23, 2023 16:24:52 GMT
Dykes failure has put more pressure on Sinclair. Expectations are sky high due to the above,to the extent he gets compared to Saka If he is not good enough as main striker play him wide or some other role. There is a player in there imo. Comparison Ferdinand was playing for Hayes at his age and rest is history. Give him confidence time and patience. If we go down and if he is still here he will be handy in League 1. We need wins,not draws to stand any chance. Let's send him to Hayes then! Very good but Dykes plays no matter what,he be picked if he turned up with no legs! Not sure he has 2 legs anyway.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 28, 2023 19:27:09 GMT
Response on TwatterX to Marti interview says Armstrong has removed his pics from social media and closed his account - anyone confirm this? On his way out?
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Post by James1979 on Dec 28, 2023 19:30:04 GMT
Response on TwatterX to Marti interview says Armstrong has removed his pics from social media and closed his account - anyone confirm this? On his way out? I just saw a post on LFW saying the same thing. We can’t have player s sulking like this.
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 28, 2023 19:52:51 GMT
Don’t blame him when he’s watching an absolutely useless cunt get 90’mins most games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2023 19:53:40 GMT
Response on TwatterX to Marti interview says Armstrong has removed his pics from social media and closed his account - anyone confirm this? On his way out? Deleted his Instagram account. I wish none of our players were on Social Media to be honest so providing its not because of abuse or he's thrown his toys out of the prams it's a good thing in my opinion.
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 28, 2023 20:15:02 GMT
My son said Jimmy Dunne has done the same.
Must be getting abuse off fans.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 28, 2023 20:18:42 GMT
Asmir put a post up after Millwall which I assume was done by someone who manages his account where he got dogs abuse maybe taken down in support
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