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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 23, 2022 15:08:47 GMT
Whatever happens this season the foundations are there to be a decent (and consistent) top 6 side until we are actually good enough to tonk teams.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 23, 2022 16:13:22 GMT
Maybe we’ve done our allocated budget on Marshall? I’m serious. Hoos has said he’s trying to run the club without the owners tipping up. Hoos could always get over-ruled by the board/owners though  Comes down to how much they think it's worth gambling on. |
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Post by The General on Jan 23, 2022 16:43:30 GMT
Tom Lawrence final piece of the jigsaw for promotion
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Post by Bill on Jan 23, 2022 16:51:05 GMT
Largely stick although I’d make a cheeky enquiry for Elijah Adebayo at Luton. Put this on here about a week ago |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 24, 2022 12:49:36 GMT
Madness would be spending irresponsible sums of money in the hope that we go up, but knowing it may come back to bite us in the arse if we don't.
The situation is we'll bring in players if someone that can improve the squad is available for a fee and wage that the club feel represents decent value, and fits within our wage structure.
It's basically the same policy we adopt every window. The only thing that has changed is the market.
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Jan 24, 2022 12:55:15 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 24, 2022 12:55:15 GMT
Players we are rumoured to be linked with seem to end up elsewhere. Wages? Loan fee?
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Post by Buffalo on Jan 24, 2022 12:55:41 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if we were also relying on offloading one or two to make room.
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Jan 24, 2022 12:59:32 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Jan 24, 2022 12:59:32 GMT
Players we are rumoured to be linked with seem to end up elsewhere. Wages? Loan fee? probably both. there's no guarantee that 'x' player would be a success with us and get us promoted so there's always the risk of that, plus long term stability should always be the goal. any player we bring in has to be on our terms. we could probably afford to waste an extra 50k a week on wages this season for example but who knows were that puts us next year? if we don't go up we'll still be in a secure financial position and can just improve the team next year. sure we might have to sell a player or two but our scouting and recruitment has been bang on over the past 2-3 years. mental to think that willock cost us 750k but is easily worth 10x that now. |
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Jan 24, 2022 13:06:24 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 24, 2022 13:06:24 GMT
Players we are rumoured to be linked with seem to end up elsewhere. Wages? Loan fee? probably both. there's no guarantee that 'x' player would be a success with us and get us promoted so there's always the risk of that, plus long term stability should always be the goal. any player we bring in has to be on our terms. we could probably afford to waste an extra 50k a week on wages this season for example but who knows were that puts us next year? if we don't go up we'll still be in a secure financial position and can just improve the team next year. sure we might have to sell a player or two but our scouting and recruitment has been bang on over the past 2-3 years. mental to think that willock cost us 750k but is easily worth 10x that now. I get the financial arguments but I can’t agree with the widely held view that we’ll be in a strong position next season. If we sell and recruit again, even IF we get it right, by the time they all gel again we could be out of contention - like last season when we finished in promotion form but too late. If the policy is to buy players to improve them then by definition that takes time. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 24, 2022 13:12:16 GMT
I can see that Cook was probably on good money but to be beaten to it by Boro and Preston for young players how much are we paying? Or maybe we were never in the frame to start with.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 24, 2022 13:22:50 GMT
probably both. there's no guarantee that 'x' player would be a success with us and get us promoted so there's always the risk of that, plus long term stability should always be the goal. any player we bring in has to be on our terms. we could probably afford to waste an extra 50k a week on wages this season for example but who knows were that puts us next year? if we don't go up we'll still be in a secure financial position and can just improve the team next year. sure we might have to sell a player or two but our scouting and recruitment has been bang on over the past 2-3 years. mental to think that willock cost us 750k but is easily worth 10x that now. I get the financial arguments but I can’t agree with the widely held view that we’ll be in a strong position next season. If we sell and recruit again, even IF we get it right, by the time they all gel again we could be out of contention - like last season when we finished in promotion form but too late. If the policy is to buy players to improve them then by definition that takes time. depends on the player, i'm a fan of the "one in, one out" style that brentford employed. they sold players but prior to selling they always had someone ready to step up or had someone lined up. maupay>watkins>toney, jozefoon>benrahma, mepham>pinnock etc and they built a very strong squad by doing that. eventually they had enough money to bring in established players like pontus jansen etc. we did it a bit with hall to dickie and eze to chair. if we kept doing that and brought in players ready to step up from league 1 right away like with dickie then we'd be in an excellent position. we're defo on track for that imo. i'm not really worried where we'll be in 3 years time because we can sell our best, get some cash in the bank and rebuild etc. eventually we'll strike gold and go up. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 24, 2022 19:11:34 GMT
So are we to assume that Lawrence is our preferred option and Jamie Paterson at Swansea is our plan b? (No guarantee of either of course, and see the likes of Wolves now supposedly interested in Lawrence so might be beyond us)
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Post by James1979 on Jan 24, 2022 19:14:25 GMT
Wing backs are so vital to our system and looking at February fixtures, I’d try to get one more in. Having said that if there’s a player available who’s better than what we have and the “right sort”, we should get them.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 24, 2022 19:15:02 GMT
Derby got more chance of getting bodies in than us.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 24, 2022 21:55:14 GMT
Wing backs are so vital to our system and looking at February fixtures, I’d try to get one more in. Having said that if there’s a player available who’s better than what we have and the “right sort”, we should get them. Gotta be said James, I am a little surprised we haven't gone all out to strengthen in the wing back positions this window. It actually probably speaks volumes for how well Albert has grown into that role the fact the Manager doesn't see it as a priority. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 24, 2022 21:58:54 GMT
Derby got more chance of getting bodies in than us. A morgue has brought in more fresh blood than us so far this window. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 24, 2022 22:02:50 GMT
Wing backs are so vital to our system and looking at February fixtures, I’d try to get one more in. Having said that if there’s a player available who’s better than what we have and the “right sort”, we should get them. Gotta be said James, I am a little surprised we haven't gone all out to strengthen in the wing back positions this window. It actually probably speaks volumes for how well Albert has grown into that role the fact the Manager doesn't see it as a priority. Odubajo fit again, Kakay back with us, plus Sam back in training. Think we will actually have pretty good competition there soon (admit it would have been a v different story if Albert of Lee had got injured in the last month or so) |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 24, 2022 22:08:01 GMT
Id get hugil in on loan
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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 24, 2022 22:10:11 GMT
Derby got more chance of getting bodies in than us. A morgue has brought in more fresh blood than us so far this window. Normal route for grannies: Rooney first, morgue next. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 24, 2022 22:11:21 GMT
Must admit the Swansea game we will prob start with Lyndon huffing and puffing for 60 minutes firing more blanks than the general without his little blue pills when Charlie will be brought on with half an hour to go and it still 0-0. No doubt we are looking short of goals, be that strikers or attacking mids. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 24, 2022 22:12:00 GMT
Rooney never hide his browsing history, as archaeology is not illegal
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 24, 2022 22:19:11 GMT
Odubajo fit again, Kakay back with us, plus Sam back in training. Think we will actually have pretty good competition there soon (admit it would have been a v different story if Albert of Lee had got injured in the last month or so) It's true, I think with Moses and McCallum back I reckon we'll be fine at WB |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 24, 2022 22:36:40 GMT
Mc is injured more than daza at spurs ever was,and he was called sick note
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 24, 2022 22:43:30 GMT
Gotta be said James, I am a little surprised we haven't gone all out to strengthen in the wing back positions this window. It actually probably speaks volumes for how well Albert has grown into that role the fact the Manager doesn't see it as a priority. Odubajo fit again, Kakay back with us, plus Sam back in training. Think we will actually have pretty good competition there soon (admit it would have been a v different story if Albert of Lee had got injured in the last month or so) The problem is virtually all of our wing back options are injury prone, knocking on a bit or both. Given that it's a.) an integral part of our system and b.) a very physically demanding role, it's a position I'd like more strength in depth. Appreciate what you are saying though. We have plenty of options when everyone is available for selection. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 25, 2022 10:05:40 GMT
If we are really going for it this year we need cover in all areas imo. Sanderson hopefully passing his medical today, but with Gray away with Jamaica we need an extra option up front. Dykes and Austin are not enough.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 25, 2022 10:16:19 GMT
Shame Dykes isn't Jamaican.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 25, 2022 10:51:18 GMT
Shame Dykes isn't Jamaican. He not even bloody sweaty |
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 25, 2022 11:04:22 GMT
Odubajo fit again, Kakay back with us, plus Sam back in training. Think we will actually have pretty good competition there soon (admit it would have been a v different story if Albert of Lee had got injured in the last month or so) The problem is virtually all of our wing back options are injury prone, knocking on a bit or both. Given that it's a.) an integral part of our system and b.) a very physically demanding role, it's a position I'd like more strength in depth. Appreciate what you are saying though. We have plenty of options when everyone is available for selection. This is my worry as well. Wallace and Uncs are fairly old so they can't play 2 games every 4 days. Moses isn't amazing, but does a decent job. Likewise with McCalum he's good but he's injury prone. We have been caught short in these positions already this season, so it's not unreasonable to think it might happen again. Kakay isn't good enough at WB to be an option either, if we have hopes of a top 6. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 25, 2022 11:18:55 GMT
I just think we can't keep racking and stacking players, we don't have the budget for it. Until we get rid of Hammelenain that's six wing backs at the club (as Uncs was saying he is now considered a defender in the squad). We just have to do the best we can with it.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 29, 2022 17:12:52 GMT
Table looks pretty nice.Six points above 7th. Eight more wins needed.
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Comes down to how much they think it's worth gambling on.
