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Post by Shania on Feb 12, 2022 22:05:53 GMT
It actually begs the question why is he so unfit? 32 and his career as a footballer is only downhill from here. he's achieved everything he ever dreamed of, scored bags of goals, played at a high standard in the prem and was even called up for england once. promotion i'm sure would be a great feather for his cap but he's understandably not as motivated as he once was, plus his media career is looking promising for him. for sure he enjoys football still but everything that goes into football, ie, the training and dieting, probably isn't for him now.i watch ben foster's youtube channel quite a bit and he has some great insight to being a footballer. he said when he was younger he was so driven and strict about what he did in regards to training and dieting and a loss really pissed him off. now though he's a lot more relaxed, he's a naturally athletic guy who loves being in shape but he said he'll have a bottle of red on saturday evenings and a takeaway every now and again. a loss doesn't affect him mentally like it did before, he just puts it behind him and moves on pretty quickly. Corbray, a nice piece of information thank you very, but I have highlighted the reason why we(imo) should try to offload him as soon as possible now though. It`s simply not acceptable to not follow a strict diet regime when you play for QPR in this divison. |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 12, 2022 22:10:49 GMT
Tend to agree with Corbs on the Charlie Austin situation. And let's be honest, it's on the club to work out if the hunger and desire to play football is still there before giving him a 2 year deal. If there were any doubts we should have only offered him a year with the option of a 2nd year based on appearances.
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Post by Shania on Feb 12, 2022 22:25:07 GMT
Tend to agree with Corbs on the Charlie Austin situation. And let's be honest, it's on the club to work out if the hunger and desire to play football is still there before giving him a 2 year deal. If there were any doubts we should have only offered him a year with the option of a 2nd year based on appearances. True that, but I feel he has let us all down. |
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Post by James1979 on Feb 12, 2022 22:51:43 GMT
The worrying thing is that we’ve been poor in 3 games running now. We can’t keep saying, “we normally don’t get results our performances deserve”….that’s nonsense. I think we’ve been pretty fortunate this season. Today was a big worry.
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Post by Bill on Feb 12, 2022 22:52:57 GMT
Tend to agree with Corbs on the Charlie Austin situation. And let's be honest, it's on the club to work out if the hunger and desire to play football is still there before giving him a 2 year deal. If there were any doubts we should have only offered him a year with the option of a 2nd year based on appearances. He is a pro and should act as such. We are paying him and should kerp his fitness to an acceptable level. This and Dykes unexcusable form leaves us with nothing up front except an untried youngster who for whatever reason is ignored. I find it amazing the club board did not do the obvious in the Jan window,might as well of waved the white flag. |
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Post by Bill on Feb 12, 2022 23:02:47 GMT
Furthermore if he is unfit how do you think other team members feel.
I know i would be pissed off
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Post by James1979 on Feb 12, 2022 23:04:29 GMT
Are we just a mid table side punching above our weight?
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2022 23:18:11 GMT
I think we should have tried to pass the ball to Chair more often, especially in the first half. It actually begs the question why is he so unfit? No excuse for it whatsoever. Just look at C Ronaldo as a shining example of how you can max out a career by looking after yourself. Clearly he's been highly driven and motivated to do that, very much unlike Austin. It simply comes down to a lack of desire, no two ways about it. You're a very long time retired and players will always miss it when it's over no matter how good a later career they have in media, managing etc. |
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Post by Bill on Feb 12, 2022 23:18:59 GMT
Are we just a mid table side punching above our weight? No we are a good team in a average league. The end of last and our overall performances this season tell us that. I think we pay to much respect/attention to the opposition and at times dont have the courage or conviction to play our game,maybe comes from the manager to cautious |
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 12, 2022 23:45:45 GMT
When we went up under Warnock he made some really smart and astute January window signings that virtually pushed us over the line.
Why didn’t we do that this time?
If I’ve said it once I’ve said it 1000 times. We needed a striker.
Dykes has one good game every 6-7
Austin is shot to pieces
Gray just so inconsistent.
Screaming out for a goal scorer and we didn’t get it.
Really feel like we missed a massive opportunity depending on these 3 up front.
Grateful we’re scoring from other areas or we’d be about 14th.
Terrible performance and result today.
Barnsley no wins in 13 and not scored at home in 6 matches.
QPR roll into town. The gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by acricketer on Feb 12, 2022 23:52:20 GMT
We are running out of steam. Our lack of pace, creativity,skill, belief is showing. Not looking forward to Milwall.
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 13, 2022 0:08:17 GMT
I get what you are all saying about there being no excuse for it, and there shouldn't be. But let's not be naive. In football, if you give someone a 2 year deal, you're probably gonna have to pay the entirety of that deal. Especially if the player is knocking on a bit. It's down to the club to assess the level of risk in terms of how fit and motivated the player is.
As for your comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo Stanley, we ain't talking about Ronaldo. We are talking about Charlie Austin who's very well known to have always been into the horses and a night out. He's also never really been much of an athlete.
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Post by acricketer on Feb 13, 2022 0:13:09 GMT
Austin will ultimately keep us average. He loves himself inside.He clearly avoids a mirror.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 13, 2022 0:23:25 GMT
Austin hasn’t looked fit since day 1 v Millwall by the way.
I remember clear as day turning to my pal and saying fuck me have we played him when he’s unfit?
Appears he’s just out of shape, ploddy, stiff and very immobile.
Father Time has hit him square in the face it seems.
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Post by Shania on Feb 13, 2022 0:27:05 GMT
It actually begs the question why is he so unfit? No excuse for it whatsoever. Just look at C Ronaldo as a shining example of how you can max out a career by looking after yourself. Clearly he's been highly driven and motivated to do that, very much unlike Austin. It simply comes down to a lack of desire, no two ways about it. You're a very long time retired and players will always miss it when it's over no matter how good a later career they have in media, managing etc. I agree . Absolutly spot on! |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 13, 2022 0:28:23 GMT
Comments about our front players are understandable but let’s not forget how little quality service they get. It would be really interesting to see how much of the 60/70% possession stats we achieve are down to the back three playing a game on their own and how many times we play Chuckle Brothers football ignoring runs made further forward.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 13, 2022 0:34:48 GMT
Comments about our front players are understandable but let’s not forget how little quality service they get. It would be really interesting to see how much of the 60/70% possession stats we achieve are down to the back three playing a game on their own and how many times we play Chuckle Brothers football ignoring runs made further forward. Gray and Dykes both had great opportunities today to score. They didn’t we lost. Sometimes you have to make your own luck. One thing I don’t think either of them do enough. Personal opinion. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 13, 2022 0:37:14 GMT
Would agree, not excusing them, just saying they’re not the only ones who don’t do enough. Dykes’ miss at the end was a joke.
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Post by jfrabbit on Feb 13, 2022 0:41:44 GMT
Would agree, not excusing them, just saying they’re not the only ones who don’t do enough. Dykes’ miss at the end was a joke. I do agree with that. Scoring goals is what they’re signed and paid for though and they don’t do nearly enough of it. I was secretly hoping we’d get a massive offer for Dykes in January so we were able to get someone with genuine scoring ability in. I’ve never rated him tbh. Flatters to deceive. |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 13, 2022 0:41:51 GMT
It was a shocker of a miss. 1 point thrown down the toilet. Drives me potty when you see what's capable of against Reading and then in 3 games since he's looked like a Sunday League player.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 13, 2022 0:49:39 GMT
As for your comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo Stanley, we ain't talking about Ronaldo. We are talking about Charlie Austin who's very well known to have always been into the horses and a night out. He's also never really been much of an athlete. Of course he'll never be like that Tarbs. My point was, with the right mentality, that's an example of how it could and should be done; and for any model pro that should always be the benchmark. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 13, 2022 7:40:05 GMT
Lucky to have missed all of this. Was in car all afternoon. No Willock, no win. Total shit show it sounds like, but so typical R's. We need to get back to form pronto, or we will wither away. Win next 10 games and all is forgiven 🤣
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Post by West Acton on Feb 13, 2022 10:06:28 GMT
It was a shocker of a miss. 1 point thrown down the toilet. Drives me potty when you see what's capable of against Reading and then in 3 games since he's looked like a Sunday League player. just In case anyone was in any doubt of my opinion he’s shit. Way to flaky a player to rely upon for any format of the game (Promotion or relegation fight) yeah he will Nick a goal here and there but he’s to inconsistent to rely upon for goals and general performances. Move him on end of the season the same with Austin who unfortunately is now past it |
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Post by Tarbie on Feb 13, 2022 10:14:05 GMT
Doubt we'll be able to move Austin on mate. Nobody else is gonna fancy picking up his contract. And I doubt very much that we are gonna want to subsidise it of pay him off!
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Post by Rangers77 on Feb 13, 2022 10:37:19 GMT
Pretty sure Chaz's limitations are down to age and immobility impacting fitness, not the other way round. It's not him not giving a shit/ taking the piss.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 13, 2022 10:43:17 GMT
Agree 77 I’m not sure it’s lack of fitness more so he’s got a body which is breaking down after one too many battles. Sometimes you see him jogging and it just don’t look right he looks awkward and in pain
I would tell him next season your on the bench and doing 20mins at most so get your head around it or look elsewhere.
We had the best of Austin first time round he’s been on the decline since he left
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 13, 2022 10:58:44 GMT
As for your comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo Stanley, we ain't talking about Ronaldo. We are talking about Charlie Austin who's very well known to have always been into the horses and a night out. He's also never really been much of an athlete. Of course he'll never be like that Tarbs. My point was, with the right mentality, that's an example of how it could and should be done; and for any model pro that should always be the benchmark. Phil Jagielka is a better comparison. Good player throughout his career who is still playing to a standard and doing himself justice at the age of 40. That is all about him doing the right things and keeping himself in shape. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 13, 2022 11:03:10 GMT
Of course he'll never be like that Tarbs. My point was, with the right mentality, that's an example of how it could and should be done; and for any model pro that should always be the benchmark. Phil Jagielka is a better comparison. Good player throughout his career who is still playing to a standard and doing himself justice at the age of 40. That is all about him doing the right things and keeping himself in shape. Yes, Ryan Giggs another example. But again my point was not to make comparisons; but instead to cite benchmark examples of fellow professionals. |
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Post by 1973ranger on Feb 13, 2022 11:06:13 GMT
Phil Jagielka is a better comparison. Good player throughout his career who is still playing to a standard and doing himself justice at the age of 40. That is all about him doing the right things and keeping himself in shape. Yes, Ryan Giggs another example. But again, my point was not to make comparisons; but instead to cite benchmark examples of fellow professionals. Milner, Curtis Davies are 2 others to name and it comes down to the attitude of the individual. Austin has looked sluggish in every game he has played and the fact he has not addressed it says so much about him. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 13, 2022 11:30:28 GMT
Beaten yesterday by a young guy on loan from Watford. Even Barnsley can do it.
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