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Post by Tarbie on Mar 21, 2022 8:06:40 GMT
Somebody told me yesterday that Peterborough have only won 8 games in all competitions this season and 3 were against us. Is that right?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 8:07:44 GMT
Fake news,we actually morally won games.
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 21, 2022 8:13:11 GMT
We win last 8 games. Come on U R's. 🤡 Fulham, Derby, Preston away? To name but three😂 Final insult will be Millwall above us. Clown smiley is the cue, Al. Still hoping though 🤣 |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 21, 2022 8:14:36 GMT
Somebody told me yesterday that Peterborough have only won 8 games in all competitions this season and 3 were against us. Is that right? Sounds right, only won 6 in league and played two in Cup before losing. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 8:15:14 GMT
Thats put me off my coffee that image,of a millwall lad naked standing above us. Bill was quite taken though
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 21, 2022 8:15:50 GMT
Fulham, Derby, Preston away? To name but three😂 Final insult will be Millwall above us. Clown smiley is the cue, Al. Still hoping though 🤣 no, I got that that’s why I picked Derby. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 21, 2022 8:20:55 GMT
Clown smiley is the cue, Al. Still hoping though 🤣 no, I got that that’s why I picked Derby. Yes, they'll probably survive because of the free 3 points they get from that game. Fucking R's 🤬 |
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 21, 2022 8:56:24 GMT
I don't want Warburton sacked, far from it but I was genuinely pissed off with the subs that happened yesterday.
We played well in the first half but then concede against the run of play. We are so easy to score against it's a joke.
2nd half we come out lacking any belief, almost as if we thought we would win it without trying (again). But skipping onto being 3-1 down. Why the hell do we keep 3 cb on the pitch? Why?! It's not working, we are losing. Take 1 off and stick 2 up top. Go 4 at the back and really put pressure on them rather than having 3 cb to fanny around with it.
Last year, when we hit play off form, we were mixing it up from 5 at the back and 4. This year, we haven't played 4 at the back once, even when we have no wing backs and even when we are playing poorly. That msut change. A know the old 'if plan A doesn't work, plan B is do plan A better' but there comes a time where a change in formation will catch the other team out.
We can't defend anyway, so go balls out and change the formation when it's not working! Especially at home.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 9:11:51 GMT
Cmon folks, stop sitting on the fence. You moan about how he fucking it up big time, but then don’t want him sacked!
I no Minnie Mouse.
He got to go. Yes we did better but he blown a huge opportunity. In most lines of work that punishable.
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Post by Shania on Mar 21, 2022 9:24:01 GMT
I don't want Warburton sacked, far from it but I was genuinely pissed off with the subs that happened yesterday. We played well in the first half but then concede against the run of play. We are so easy to score against it's a joke. 2nd half we come out lacking any belief, almost as if we thought we would win it without trying (again). But skipping onto being 3-1 down. Why the hell do we keep 3 cb on the pitch? Why?! It's not working, we are losing. Take 1 off and stick 2 up top. Go 4 at the back and really put pressure on them rather than having 3 cb to fanny around with it. Last year, when we hit play off form, we were mixing it up from 5 at the back and 4. This year, we haven't played 4 at the back once, even when we have no wing backs and even when we are playing poorly. That msut change. A know the old 'if plan A doesn't work, plan B is do plan A better' but there comes a time where a change in formation will catch the other team out. We can't defend anyway, so go balls out and change the formation when it's not working! Especially at home. Excatly why do you want to keep him? I`m just curious. |
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 21, 2022 9:30:29 GMT
I don't want Warburton sacked, far from it but I was genuinely pissed off with the subs that happened yesterday. We played well in the first half but then concede against the run of play. We are so easy to score against it's a joke. 2nd half we come out lacking any belief, almost as if we thought we would win it without trying (again). But skipping onto being 3-1 down. Why the hell do we keep 3 cb on the pitch? Why?! It's not working, we are losing. Take 1 off and stick 2 up top. Go 4 at the back and really put pressure on them rather than having 3 cb to fanny around with it. Last year, when we hit play off form, we were mixing it up from 5 at the back and 4. This year, we haven't played 4 at the back once, even when we have no wing backs and even when we are playing poorly. That msut change. A know the old 'if plan A doesn't work, plan B is do plan A better' but there comes a time where a change in formation will catch the other team out. We can't defend anyway, so go balls out and change the formation when it's not working! Especially at home. Excatly why do you want to keep him? I`m just curious. For the most part, the football has been the most pleasing to watch since our Warnock days. We have had a lot of shit since then and he's had me excited to watch QPR. Yes, since January it has been shit but it was great before that so I think he has the right to be given a chance to finish the job. He has improved us year on year whilst having next to no budget to work with. A disappointing run in my opinion isn't enough to wipe away 2/3 years good building. Have there been flaws? Of course, but every single manager has them. |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 21, 2022 9:52:58 GMT
now that i've calmed down from yesterday i don't think warbs should be sacked but i also think he has to improve our performances by the end of the season or we should get shot.
i've always said that i don't mind losing (as much) if we were the better team and just got unlucky, like the home game against bristol earlier in the season. its just one of those unfortunate things.
had we been on a similar run of collecting 8pts out of 30 but played well every game then i wouldn't give a shit, sure i'd be pissed off at losing but i'd have complete faith in warbs.
fact of the matter is we're playing absolutely awfully and the games against barnsley and peterbrough are completely unacceptable.
players look completely devoid of confidence and look like they've already thrown in the towel.
january was an awful window for us too and that lies at the feet of warbs imo.
has to turn it around and improve performances or its time to look for someone else.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 21, 2022 9:59:49 GMT
Not being funny Corbs but this league is there for the taking this year. I mean fucking Luton are 3rd. I was behind Warburton until recently but our form is shocking, the team look a shadow of what we know they can be based on performances, and those capitulations in the last 2 games, especially yesterday just aren't acceptable.
Bin him now and see if somebody can get a tune out of these lads so we can get in the playoffs. At very least, get us back into a run of form for next season and work out which of this lot are worth keeping to start next season off right. I see zero benefit in persevering with the Breadman at the moment. The prick has signed his own death warrant for me.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 10:05:20 GMT
Not being funny Corbs but this league is there for the taking this year. I mean fucking Luton are 3rd. I was behind Warburton until recently but our form is shocking, the team look a shadow of what we know they can be based on performances, and those capitulations in the last 2 games, especially yesterday just aren't acceptable. Bin him now and see if somebody can get a tune out of these lads so we can get in the playoffs. At very least, get us back into a run of form for next season and work out which of this lot are worth keeping to start next season off right. I see zero benefit in persevering with the Breadman at the moment. The prick has signed his own death warrant for me. Exactly what I said yday, he had his chance , he blown it, serious money at stake for a club that needs it. We not a charity, we a business. You fail at your job you go. Simple |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 21, 2022 10:05:44 GMT
Not being funny Corbs but this league is there for the taking this year. I mean fucking Luton are 3rd. I was behind Warburton until recently but our form is shocking, the team look a shadow of what we know they can be based on performances, and those capitulations in the last 2 games, especially yesterday just aren't acceptable. Bin him now and see if somebody can get a tune out of these lads so we can get in the playoffs. At very least, get us back into a run of form for next season and work out which of this lot are worth keeping to start next season off right. I see zero benefit in persevering with the Breadman at the moment. The prick has signed his own death warrant for me. we went through a similar patch last season though and came out of it well, albeit with new signings. but surely after 2 and a half seasons of warbs improving us year on year its given him some good faith credit in the bank. sacking now would be harsh given that he's undoubtedly been our best manager since warnock. he deserves a few more games imo, if he beats fulham then he'll be everyones favourite once again lol. |
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Post by sparks on Mar 21, 2022 10:09:49 GMT
The one thing players need is confidence that the manger has belief in their ability.
Yesterdays post match interview was understandably downbeat but to publicly say “Lukey and Dozzell are not going to get goals for you “ is certainly destroying confidence and maybe burning Bridges also.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 21, 2022 10:10:30 GMT
Not being funny Corbs but this league is there for the taking this year. I mean fucking Luton are 3rd. I was behind Warburton until recently but our form is shocking, the team look a shadow of what we know they can be based on performances, and those capitulations in the last 2 games, especially yesterday just aren't acceptable. Bin him now and see if somebody can get a tune out of these lads so we can get in the playoffs. At very least, get us back into a run of form for next season and work out which of this lot are worth keeping to start next season off right. I see zero benefit in persevering with the Breadman at the moment. The prick has signed his own death warrant for me. WBA tried that and they are still no where. All they have is a severance pay for getting rid and a higher wage in their new man. New manager doesn't guarantee success. We are improving year on year, so we are on the right trajectory. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 21, 2022 10:12:10 GMT
Have to wait until season ends IMO. If we improve on last year with say 70 plus points, I'd keep him. If not, say only 67 points, it's curtains for MW imo.
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Post by Greg1882 on Mar 21, 2022 10:23:02 GMT
Cmon folks, stop sitting on the fence. You moan about how he fucking it up big time, but then don’t want him sacked! I no Minnie Mouse. He got to go. Yes we did better but he blown a huge opportunity. In most lines of work that punishable. I want him gone at the end of the season at the latest. I just can’t forgive stupidity like yesterday. Good managers don’t make those sort of ridiculous subs. Good managers don’t fail to motivate players and good managers wouldn’t have made pointless signings that have actually made us worse instead of addressing obvious problems. He’s overstepped the mark for me and as harsh as that sounds I just don’t think he’s got it in him to take us further. Done well to steady the ship and point it in the right direction but that’s the limit of it. Before anyone argues about budgets take a look at Luton |
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 21, 2022 10:25:16 GMT
Don't agree with sacking him at all.
He has not become a bad manager overnight he has simply f@cked up by tinkering the wrong positions at the wrong time. He's panicked.
Next game, drop Sanderson, drop Hendrick and bring our own players back into the mix. The players that got us to the top parts of the league before these 2 clowns arrived.
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Post by Bill on Mar 21, 2022 10:46:10 GMT
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you dont.
What you all think or want ?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 21, 2022 10:49:57 GMT
Like I said in another thread, change nothing until the end of the season at least. If we finish in the top 10, keep Warburton on for another season. If not...I'd be ok with seeing him go.
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Post by Greg1882 on Mar 21, 2022 11:06:20 GMT
Don't agree with sacking him at all. He has not become a bad manager overnight he has simply f@cked up by tinkering the wrong positions at the wrong time. He's panicked. Next game, drop Sanderson, drop Hendrick and bring our own players back into the mix. The players that got us to the top parts of the league before these 2 clowns arrived. But by bringing in these two clowns he has upset the apple cart. For me the damage is done and he won’t backtrack anyway. He’s too stubborn. I mean what sort of fucking lunatic removes a striker in form for an absolute shell of a player. Removes Amos who always gets us further up the pitch and chips in with some sort of attacking threat and replaces him with a poor version (and that really is saying something) of johanson and drops barbet, rejigs the defence to accommodate a fucking show pony. Seriously who does that. Who upsets a winning settled side to shoehorn a disinterested and selfish chair straight back in. Make absolutely no mistake this is all on warburton. |
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Post by Shania on Mar 21, 2022 11:14:02 GMT
Excatly why do you want to keep him? I`m just curious. For the most part, the football has been the most pleasing to watch since our Warnock days. We have had a lot of shit since then and he's had me excited to watch QPR. Yes, since January it has been shit but it was great before that so I think he has the right to be given a chance to finish the job. He has improved us year on year whilst having next to no budget to work with.A disappointing run in my opinion isn't enough to wipe away 2/3 years good building. Have there been flaws? Of course, but every single manager has them. That`s true. But my opinion, or say fear, is that even with a top squad he would fail. I hope I`m wrong. On a sidenote; I actually think he will be given a new contract. Ironically, all the injuries on "his" players will probably save him his job... |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 21, 2022 11:22:39 GMT
For the most part, the football has been the most pleasing to watch since our Warnock days. We have had a lot of shit since then and he's had me excited to watch QPR. Yes, since January it has been shit but it was great before that so I think he has the right to be given a chance to finish the job. He has improved us year on year whilst having next to no budget to work with.A disappointing run in my opinion isn't enough to wipe away 2/3 years good building. Have there been flaws? Of course, but every single manager has them. That`s true. But my opinion, or say fear, is that even with a top squad he would fail. I hope I`m wrong. On a sidenote; I actually think he will be given a new contract. Ironically, all the injuries on "his" players will probably save him his job... he signed a new deal at the start of the season, no idea for how long though. he's done a superb job in the time he'a been with us though, lets not forget that. we've gone from relegation battlers to playoff contenders and barely spent a penny along the way, all while having to do major rebuilds along the way. in the past few years we've lost the likes of eze, hugill, wells, BOS, manning, hall, leistner and furlong among others. all hard players to replace on the face of it but look at who we've brought in and who's stepped up. that can't really be overstated enough and for me he's got enough good will to be given more time to turn it around. until the end of the season at the very least, and there's no guarantee that a new manager can get a better tune out of the players we have here. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 21, 2022 11:48:57 GMT
Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you dont. What you all think or want ? Get rid. Won’t take us any further no matter how long he stays. The teams around us were no better than us they just seized their opportunity and upped their game with their eyes on the prize while we messed about throwing away our advantage. People seem to forget we’ve been on a ‘relegation like’ run with him before. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 21, 2022 11:50:26 GMT
Regardless of what we all think - Les, Amit, Ruben, Bin Meranun, Reilly, if they have any combined sense, will certainly be asking some serious questions of the management over how he and his staff have so royally messed up such a strong position we had in the league.
If people have lost faith in MW then you have to at least keep faith in his employers' ability to take the right decisions, be that to stick or twist.
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Post by Shania on Mar 21, 2022 11:53:03 GMT
That`s true. But my opinion, or say fear, is that even with a top squad he would fail. I hope I`m wrong. On a sidenote; I actually think he will be given a new contract. Ironically, all the injuries on "his" players will probably save him his job... he signed a new deal at the start of the season, no idea for how long though. he's done a superb job in the time he'a been with us though, lets not forget that. we've gone from relegation battlers to playoff contenders and barely spent a penny along the way, all while having to do major rebuilds along the way. in the past few years we've lost the likes of eze, hugill, wells, BOS, manning, hall, leistner and furlong among others. all hard players to replace on the face of it but look at who we've brought in and who's stepped up. that can't really be overstated enough and for me he's got enough good will to be given more time to turn it around. until the end of the season at the very least, and there's no guarantee that a new manager can get a better tune out of the players we have here. Ok. Point taken!  |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 21, 2022 12:02:23 GMT
I can’t get my head around chasing games but still refusing to put free kicks in the box instead of back, across, waste it, or taking off a striker who has scored recently and replacing him with a statue, or taking off a midfielder who has looked to get forward in favour of one who has added nothing to the team. That’s all management.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 21, 2022 12:12:34 GMT
The one thing players need is confidence that the manger has belief in their ability. Yesterdays post match interview was understandably downbeat but to publicly say “Lukey and Dozzell are not going to get goals for you “ is certainly destroying confidence and maybe burning Bridges also. Lukey has scored and might do a lot better if you knew where to play him and gave him a fucking chance. If you don’t think your young midfielders will get goals where did ‘we don’t need a striker’ come from? If I was Lukey I’d be off asap. |
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