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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 24, 2022 13:05:09 GMT
we weren't playing 3 at the back until late december 2020 when we switched up to 3 at the back after we'd been on an abysmal run of something like 11 games without a win. when we switched to 3 at the back we picked up some crucial victories and started putting in some solid performances, that was a turning point for many of us i'm sure. It was actually 9 without a win, but yes, you make a fair point and it's something to hang our hats onto at least.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 24, 2022 14:58:02 GMT
we weren't playing 3 at the back until late december 2020 when we switched up to 3 at the back after we'd been on an abysmal run of something like 11 games without a win. when we switched to 3 at the back we picked up some crucial victories and started putting in some solid performances, that was a turning point for many of us i'm sure. It was actually 9 without a win, but yes, you make a fair point and it's something to hang our hats onto at least. Also interesting to note that what helped him turn it around there was the January window with the Austin and Johansen signings. Ironically, this January it was almost the opposite story, with his signings actually triggering a decline in our fortunes. I think this is what makes people lose trust in a) his recruitment skills (i.e. the last window) and b) his ability to recognise and rectify his own mistakes.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 24, 2022 15:29:54 GMT
He does`t seem to change his approch at all. With him at helm the club would need to buy a lot of players who has to be very,very good tactically . And those would not come cheap in today`s market. That`s why I want a new manager to assess the squad and it`s weaknesses ahead of the next transfer window. New manager needs signings, Warbs needs signings. Not sure what difference that part makes? Or are you saying that with a new manager we don't need new signings?
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 24, 2022 15:31:25 GMT
I voted sack him now. But I didn`t excatly like it. However; having seen so many of the similar signs in Warburton`s tenure that sent so many of our former managers out of the job, I can`t really support his odd substitutions and set-ups any longer. Support any longer? I thought you didn't do that in the first place.
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 18:04:48 GMT
He does`t seem to change his approch at all. With him at helm the club would need to buy a lot of players who has to be very,very good tactically . And those would not come cheap in today`s market. That`s why I want a new manager to assess the squad and it`s weaknesses ahead of the next transfer window. New manager needs signings, Warbs needs signings. Not sure what difference that part makes? Or are you saying that with a new manager we don't need new signings? A better manager than Warburton would imo get more out of each player.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 24, 2022 18:50:25 GMT
Thanks Stan - missed those somehow... Some interesting names - Farke and Bielsa in particular. I'd also add Chris Hughton for consideration should Warbs be 'let go'. But my preferred choice would be to stick with Warbs - he's done a decent job with minimal funds and a small (and often crocked) squad.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 24, 2022 19:23:17 GMT
yeah the real question is who would want to come here?
Having witnessed the dog's breakfast the board made of the window, any candidate worth his salt is gonna be like thanks but no thanks.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 24, 2022 19:23:34 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically.
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 19:32:39 GMT
I voted sack him now. But I didn`t excatly like it. However; having seen so many of the similar signs in Warburton`s tenure that sent so many of our former managers out of the job, I can`t really support his odd substitutions and set-ups any longer. Support any longer? I thought you didn't do that in the first place. Another poster was refereing to mixed messages or something like that - that`s why I decided to voice my opinion one more time. Imo, it`s not a cardinal sin to want a new manager in..
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 24, 2022 19:33:11 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically. Not for me either.
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 19:37:05 GMT
Kjetil Knudsen,the coach who is in charge of Bodø Glimt would have been ideal for us.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 24, 2022 19:52:46 GMT
In the club's entire history we've appointed 3 foreign managers: Di Canio, Sousa and Hasselbaink. None of those were particularly well researched and only one of them we got lucky and did reasonably well under.
I'd love us to recruit a talented foreign coach, like countless other clubs do to great success. But who can honestly see it happening going by our track record?
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 21:12:55 GMT
I`m not sure many others than you and a few others would like us to appoint a foreign coach at all. To be honest, I`m not sure why...
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 24, 2022 21:26:07 GMT
I`m not sure many others than you and a few others would like us to appoint a foreign coach at all. To be honest, I`m not sure why... I see no reason why the fans would have any problem with it, Shania. As long as the club had done their homework well on him. But we have hardly any track record on it, that's the trouble. First time for everything though. It would be so refreshing if the next appointment was one.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 24, 2022 21:31:46 GMT
I`m not sure many others than you and a few others would like us to appoint a foreign coach at all. To be honest, I`m not sure why... Rangers’ fans would give anyone a chance Shania, we’ve had some pretty poor British managers here over the years😁
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 24, 2022 21:32:12 GMT
All very true, Corbs mate, but you've not really answered my question. we weren't playing 3 at the back until late december 2020 when we switched up to 3 at the back after we'd been on an abysmal run of something like 11 games without a win. when we switched to 3 at the back we picked up some crucial victories and started putting in some solid performances, that was a turning point for many of us i'm sure. he hasn't done everything right and if he was a perfect manager he'd be in charge of man city rather than us lol. but he has done a great job in his time here however you choose to view his spell. thats why for me there's enough good will based on his achievements with us that we shouldn't just pull the trigger and get rid, it'd be very harsh to do so imo. by all means reevaluate at the end of the season and if performances are still shit then get rid of him. It was selling BOS, which he didn't want to do, that prompted the season changing move to 352. Pretty much a reactive decision because he would've keep playing Bright which required a back four.
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 21:55:24 GMT
I`m not sure many others than you and a few others would like us to appoint a foreign coach at all. To be honest, I`m not sure why... Rangers’ fans would give anyone a chance Shania, we’ve had some pretty poor British managers here over the years😁That part is true. Lol.
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Post by Shania on Mar 24, 2022 22:02:38 GMT
I`m not sure many others than you and a few others would like us to appoint a foreign coach at all. To be honest, I`m not sure why... I see no reason why the fans would have any problem with it, Shania. As long as the club had done their homework well on him. But we have hardly any track record on it, that's the trouble. First time for everything though. It would be so refreshing if the next appointment was one. Coming to a club in London which is known for playing a continental style of football should be a dream for many foreign coaches. German and Dutch coaches would fit our style of play. Coaches from other nations also off course.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 25, 2022 10:39:58 GMT
New manager needs signings, Warbs needs signings. Not sure what difference that part makes? Or are you saying that with a new manager we don't need new signings? A better manager than Warburton would imo get more out of each player. Of course a better manager would. But what 'better' managers come here to earn one of the least as a manager in this league?
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Post by Shania on Mar 25, 2022 14:01:14 GMT
A better manager than Warburton would imo get more out of each player. Of course a better manager would. But what 'better' managers come here to earn one of the least as a manager in this league? I`m not sure Barnsley manager would have said no to QPR if he had been available. He is just one excample.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Mar 25, 2022 14:22:30 GMT
In the club's entire history we've appointed 3 foreign managers: Di Canio, Sousa and Hasselbaink. None of those were particularly well researched and only one of them we got lucky and did reasonably well under. I'd love us to recruit a talented foreign coach, like countless other clubs do to great success. But who can honestly see it happening going by our track record? Ollie was foreign surely, given nobody could understand what the hell he was on about most of the time.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 25, 2022 14:41:44 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically. Possibly, but only because his spell at Forest. Warbs had a wobbly spell there too. Hopefully there’s no vacancy though 😎
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 25, 2022 15:53:27 GMT
Of course a better manager would. But what 'better' managers come here to earn one of the least as a manager in this league? I`m not sure Barnsley manager would have said no to QPR if he had been available. He is just one excample. We wouldn't be able to afford the comp that WBA paid. Plus Barnsley had wealthy owners and just finished in the play offs. I doubt he would have left them for us.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 25, 2022 15:55:47 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically. Possibly, but only because his spell at Forest. Warbs had a wobbly spell there too. Hopefully there’s no vacancy though 😎 Every club has said how boring and horrible their football is, with how negative he is. Sucked the life out of Forest, Brighton and Norwich fans wanted him out. Plus, doesn't he fit into the 'dinosaur' bracket that so many fans don't want?
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 25, 2022 17:06:37 GMT
Possibly, but only because his spell at Forest. Warbs had a wobbly spell there too. Hopefully there’s no vacancy though 😎 Every club has said how boring and horrible their football is, with how negative he is. Sucked the life out of Forest, Brighton and Norwich fans wanted him out. Plus, doesn't he fit into the 'dinosaur' bracket that so many fans don't want? I think that’s what was being said, that he’d turned into a bit of a dinosaur. Shame, did ok at Newcastle.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 25, 2022 17:07:03 GMT
I`m not sure Barnsley manager would have said no to QPR if he had been available. He is just one excample. We wouldn't be able to afford the comp that WBA paid. Plus Barnsley had wealthy owners and just finished in the play offs. I doubt he would have left them for us. plus he failed massively and got sacked
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Post by West Acton on Mar 25, 2022 17:10:29 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically. kind of shows how fickle football fans are. His management record is superb but a bad 6months and no one wants to touch him although rest of his record has promotions more then one club. Six months ago we would have jumped at him as fans Not criticism as I would probably stand back myself but it’s a shame as he’s clearly good manager but one bad experience has written him off probably long term
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 25, 2022 17:23:01 GMT
Would have had Hughton a few years ago but I think his stock has fallen dramatically. kind of shows how fickle football fans are. His management record is superb but a bad 6months and no one wants to touch him although rest of his record has promotions more then one club. Six months ago we would have jumped at him as fans Not criticism as I would probably stand back myself but it’s a shame as he’s clearly good manager but one bad experience has written him off probably long term I think we chatted at the time that he had not moved on with the game and had become a bit too defensive and dull like Mourinho. I think he’ll come again - will be interesting to see if he has changed approach.
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Post by Shania on Mar 25, 2022 17:36:16 GMT
I`m not sure Barnsley manager would have said no to QPR if he had been available. He is just one excample. We wouldn't be able to afford the comp that WBA paid. Plus Barnsley had wealthy owners and just finished in the play offs. I doubt he would have left them for us. It wasn`t Ismael I was thinking of, it was their current one.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 25, 2022 17:40:47 GMT
kind of shows how fickle football fans are. His management record is superb but a bad 6months and no one wants to touch him although rest of his record has promotions more then one club. Six months ago we would have jumped at him as fans Not criticism as I would probably stand back myself but it’s a shame as he’s clearly good manager but one bad experience has written him off probably long term I think we chatted at the time that he had not moved on with the game and had become a bit too defensive and dull like Mourinho. I think he’ll come again - will be interesting to see if he has changed approach. agree hes defo defensive minded Al, don’t mean he’s not good, some managers suit different clubs. I fear we won’t get chance anytime soon see if can can recover
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