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Post by sparks on Mar 21, 2022 13:19:55 GMT
That`s true. But my opinion, or say fear, is that even with a top squad he would fail. I hope I`m wrong. On a sidenote; I actually think he will be given a new contract. Ironically, all the injuries on "his" players will probably save him his job... he signed a new deal at the start of the season, no idea for how long though. he's done a superb job in the time he'a been with us though, lets not forget that. we've gone from relegation battlers to playoff contenders and barely spent a penny along the way, all while having to do major rebuilds along the way. in the past few years we've lost the likes of eze, hugill, wells, BOS, manning, hall, leistner and furlong among others. all hard players to replace on the face of it but look at who we've brought in and who's stepped up. that can't really be overstated enough and for me he's got enough good will to be given more time to turn it around. until the end of the season at the very least, and there's no guarantee that a new manager can get a better tune out of the players we have here. MW initial contract was disclosed as a “one year rolling contract” It’s self explanatory on its length but fixed on its payment rate. He signed a new un-disclosed contract in August last year. www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/12373373/mark-warburton-qpr-manager-agrees-new-deal-at-loftus-road |
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 21, 2022 14:26:34 GMT
Don't agree with sacking him at all. He has not become a bad manager overnight he has simply f@cked up by tinkering the wrong positions at the wrong time. He's panicked. Next game, drop Sanderson, drop Hendrick and bring our own players back into the mix. The players that got us to the top parts of the league before these 2 clowns arrived. He hasn't become a bad manager overnight mate, that's true. He is once again reverting to type, and by that I mean him being a limited manager that pays the price all too often for being stubborn. Yes, if you look at certain stats and come at it from certain angles then you can make a reasonably justified argument that over his tenure, he's been the best Manager we've had since Warnock. But that out there in the 2nd half yesterday was simply unacceptable and one of my lowest points as a QPR fan. To be sat there at Loftus Road having travelling fans of one of the poorest teams in Championship history singing "How shit must you be, we've beat you 3 times" is a fucking embarrassment. As I said earlier, they've only won 8 times in all competitions, and 3 of those have been against us. In my opinion, any Manager that gets through a 2nd half like that yesterday should be very thankful to still have his job. And that's not taking into account 2 months of utter toilet that has proceeded it. His justifications for the substitutions in the post match interview actually compounded it all. Bloke has lost the plot, as the thread title suggests. He's also signed 2 utter lemons on loan in the transfer window and is picking them ahead of players that could do far better jobs. A few on here saying that he's been in similar poor runs before and got through it. Does having previous for fucking things up mean that fucking things up is somehow acceptable? I'd argue that this last bad run is as bad as it's been under his tenure and for that reason, we've got to think seriously about calling it a day with him. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 15:43:54 GMT
You go out with a girl( some of you a boy, know who u are) and it starts of bit nervy. After a while u click , you enjoying it, u have a few ups and downs but soon on track. You start thinking this is the one, and for a year it’s certainly looking that way. But then things start to change, little things at first, then it starts to fall apart week after week. It not the same, nothings working, we drift along. Do u stay together? Or piss off and hump someone else?
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Post by Shania on Mar 21, 2022 16:16:46 GMT
Don't agree with sacking him at all. He has not become a bad manager overnight he has simply f@cked up by tinkering the wrong positions at the wrong time. He's panicked. Next game, drop Sanderson, drop Hendrick and bring our own players back into the mix. The players that got us to the top parts of the league before these 2 clowns arrived. He hasn't become a bad manager overnight mate, that's true. He is once again reverting to type, and by that I mean him being a limited manager that pays the price all too often for being stubborn. Yes, if you look at certain stats and come at it from certain angles then you can make a reasonably justified argument that over his tenure, he's been the best Manager we've had since Warnock. But that out there in the 2nd half yesterday was simply unacceptable and one of my lowest points as a QPR fan. To be sat there at Loftus Road having travelling fans of one of the poorest teams in Championship history singing "How shit must you be, we've beat you 3 times" is a fucking embarrassment. As I said earlier, they've only won 8 times in all competitions, and 3 of those have been against us. In my opinion, any Manager that gets through a 2nd half like that yesterday should be very thankful to still have his job. And that's not taking into account 2 months of utter toilet that has proceeded it. His justifications for the substitutions in the post match interview actually compounded it all. Bloke has lost the plot, as the thread title suggests. He's also signed 2 utter lemons on loan in the transfer window and is picking them ahead of players that could do far better jobs. A few on here saying that he's been in similar poor runs before and got through it. Does having previous for fucking things up mean that fucking things up is somehow acceptable? I'd argue that this last bad run is as bad as it's been under his tenure and for that reason, we've got to think seriously about calling it a day with him. Spot on, and the content of this last paragraph is what I find a bit alarming to say the least. @olliburton |
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 21, 2022 16:58:50 GMT
Don't agree with sacking him at all. He has not become a bad manager overnight he has simply f@cked up by tinkering the wrong positions at the wrong time. He's panicked. Next game, drop Sanderson, drop Hendrick and bring our own players back into the mix. The players that got us to the top parts of the league before these 2 clowns arrived. He hasn't become a bad manager overnight mate, that's true. He is once again reverting to type, and by that I mean him being a limited manager that pays the price all too often for being stubborn. Yes, if you look at certain stats and come at it from certain angles then you can make a reasonably justified argument that over his tenure, he's been the best Manager we've had since Warnock. But that out there in the 2nd half yesterday was simply unacceptable and one of my lowest points as a QPR fan. To be sat there at Loftus Road having travelling fans of one of the poorest teams in Championship history singing "How shit must you be, we've beat you 3 times" is a fucking embarrassment. As I said earlier, they've only won 8 times in all competitions, and 3 of those have been against us. In my opinion, any Manager that gets through a 2nd half like that yesterday should be very thankful to still have his job. And that's not taking into account 2 months of utter toilet that has proceeded it. His justifications for the substitutions in the post match interview actually compounded it all. Bloke has lost the plot, as the thread title suggests. He's also signed 2 utter lemons on loan in the transfer window and is picking them ahead of players that could do far better jobs. A few on here saying that he's been in similar poor runs before and got through it. Does having previous for fucking things up mean that fucking things up is somehow acceptable? I'd argue that this last bad run is as bad as it's been under his tenure and for that reason, we've got to think seriously about calling it a day with him. The point here is that he has come out the other side and we go on very good runs of form. Hence, we have been in the play offs for the bulk of the season. Or do we get rid every time we hit a bad run like Watford? I know I am using a extreme example. |
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 21, 2022 17:04:23 GMT
Clearly you have more faith than me that he's going to turn it around Sponge.
I honestly feel like the rot has well and truly set in the last few weeks. Not 1 player in anything like decent form. New players coming in, playing shite, and getting selected above people that have always given their all. Our best player out injured too. Also 1 fit striker that blows hot and cold, backed up by a guy that is about 3 stone overweight and a prick who only shows up 1 week out of 10, and is more concerned about his next tattoo than winning a game of football.
Out of interest, what do you reckon is going to kick start our season?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 17:09:20 GMT
Clearly you have more faith than me that he's going to turn it around Sponge. I honestly feel like the rot has well and truly set in the last few weeks. Not 1 player in anything like decent form. New players coming in, playing shite, and getting selected above people that have always given their all. Our best player out injured too. Also 1 fit striker that blows hot and cold, backed up by a guy that is about 3 stone overweight and a prick who only shows up 1 week out of ten, and is more concerned about his next tattoo than winning a game of football. Out of interest, what do you reckon is going to kick start our season? August |
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 21, 2022 19:02:44 GMT
Clearly you have more faith than me that he's going to turn it around Sponge. I honestly feel like the rot has well and truly set in the last few weeks. Not 1 player in anything like decent form. New players coming in, playing shite, and getting selected above people that have always given their all. Our best player out injured too. Also 1 fit striker that blows hot and cold, backed up by a guy that is about 3 stone overweight and a prick who only shows up 1 week out of 10, and is more concerned about his next tattoo than winning a game of football. Out of interest, what do you reckon is going to kick start our season? Don't get me wrong, I am not happy with the last 2 months either, but he has enough credit in the bank to have more time. And a bit of luck on our side. Against Hull we had a goal ruled offside. Forest we missed an open goal. Boro we hit the post and bar. All these at crucial times so hopefully something goes our way and we can get some confidence again. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 21, 2022 19:07:32 GMT
Hitting post bar is not a goal ever. Just saying.
Don’t get points for near miss
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 21, 2022 20:13:38 GMT
I just think this is as good as he is, like I said before mid table championship is his about his level these days.
My worry would be the board's inability to make decent appointments. As discussed on here previously.....
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 21, 2022 20:32:35 GMT
Sponge, surely we've had more good luck than bad luck this season? Loads of games we've won against the rub of the green.
I'd also argue that any remaining "credit in the bank" the Breadman had was pissed up the wall in the 2nd half on Sunday. As has been said by a few people on here today, could quite easily sack a Manager for that result alone.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Mar 22, 2022 6:01:03 GMT
On the plus side at least we won’t have to endure our bi-annual dicking by Fulham and Brentford next season.
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 22, 2022 9:06:00 GMT
Sponge, surely we've had more good luck than bad luck this season? Loads of games we've won against the rub of the green. I'd also argue that any remaining "credit in the bank" the Breadman had was pissed up the wall in the 2nd half on Sunday. As has been said by a few people on here today, could quite easily sack a Manager for that result alone. Maybe, but I am saying that there are fine margins and with a league as tight as this year, it is those fine margins. Obviously we got lucky with our winning goal vs Luton, but then we were unlucky with their first. I am not blaming luck by the way, I am just saying that when things are good, they go your way. When they are bad, they don't. Hoping at some stage that turns a bit. A key bit will be getting Willock back. We are so average without him. Anyone heard how long it will be? I think a thrashing vs Fulham and we could well see him go. It would certainly make the noise a lot louder. Once the boos come into the stadium, it's suddenly not just the twitter mafia going ott. That's just my personal feelings though. I can see why people want him gone now, some of the performances have been terrible and then the lack of reaction in the next game is the bit that hurts. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 22, 2022 10:44:26 GMT
Hate the booing. Just walk out silently. Says it all.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 22, 2022 10:56:18 GMT
Next game will tell us a lot. It’s about time we raised our game against them. Bastards singing ‘it’s happening again’ really pisses me off and it should be the same for our manager and players. Play well and get beaten by Mitrovic, fair enough. Get tonked by not competing and he should go before the showers warm up. This isn’t about top six, it’s Fulham.Beat them and we can start debating top six again but this is Fulham, and our lot owe us a performance.
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 22, 2022 11:12:32 GMT
Willock & Marshall our for the season now too just to add to the mix.
Back to MW. Now is absolutely not the time to change manager.
We’ve imploded and dropped out of the play offs but we are not out of it.
If Sunday doesn’t drop the biggest massive dose of reality to MW and he goes again with Sanderson over Barbet and Hendrick over Ball / Thomas / etc then I’d say yes I’ve probably seen enough of him but let’s give him that chance to do that.
Maybe it’s my blind faith but I have a feeling the players have realised we’ve hit the worst patch of the season at the worst time & won’t want to throw all that work away.
Lots of points to play for! Get a draw against Fulham and I’ll feel a bit more confident.
Let’s remain calm. No need to pull the trigger with single digits amount of games left.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 22, 2022 11:14:55 GMT
I'd like to stick with Warbs.
When we were on a charge, was he suddenly the best manager in the League?
Now we're having a blip, is he suddenly the worst?
It's down to players too. Maybe some were beginning to believe the hype and getting complacent. Others have suffered a noticeable dip in form and/or lack fitness.
Performance judged by the league table is one thing - but financial performance is massively important too. Warbs has still achieved absolute wonders on a minuscule budget - and played largely attractive, attacking football.
Personally, I have more enjoyment of and pride in the club for the way it has conducted itself in the last couple of years than since the Warnock years. And even then we started massively overspending/over-paying.
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Post by Shania on Mar 22, 2022 12:55:06 GMT
I would like to stick with a manager who has a plan A, B and C. Warburton does only have a plan A.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 22, 2022 13:05:16 GMT
Warburton has genuinely lost it Hard to say, but most of his decision making over the last 9 games seems truly bizarre and inexplicable. Considering what was at stake, how long the board will tolerate that is very difficult to predict, going by their track record. As generally they tend to stick by managers longer than what's in the club's best interests, and we/they only end up ruing not being more decisive sooner. But if we tolerate this, our children will be next. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 22, 2022 13:29:10 GMT
Warburton has genuinely lost it Hard to say, but most of his decision making over the last 9 games seems truly bizarre and inexplicable. Considering what was at stake, how long the board will tolerate that is very difficult to predict, going by their track record. As generally they tend to stick by managers longer than what's in the club's best interests, and we/they only end up ruing not being more decisive sooner. But if we tolerate this, our children will be next. He’s really bolloxed up the last 2 months and for me the signings he made were not only not needed but they’ve completely upset the core group and momentum of the side. Not to mention the obvious one not getting a forward in but to sack him with 8 games to go whilst we still have a chance of the play offs would be crazy. Let’s hope that fucking disgrace of a performance Sunday and the crowds reaction shirks some kind of response out of him finally to change what he’s been doing. Let’s see. |
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Post by James1979 on Mar 22, 2022 15:50:35 GMT
Playoffs have gone. Give him until end of season. See who else is available and decide if we can get anyone better. No point getting rid if we end up bringing Holloway back! We missed a huge change this season. League was poor and we had some lucky results. We were in a fantastic position and we had nearly a fully fit squad.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Mar 22, 2022 16:00:51 GMT
Speaking to a Brentford mate of mine last night and he said he remembers Warburton doesn't like dealing with a big squad so they often found that in the latter stages of the season they would start to decline in form because the players were burnt out. Sounds familiar.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 22, 2022 16:07:17 GMT
Speaking to a Brentford mate of mine last night and he said he remembers Warburton doesn't like dealing with a big squad so they often found that in the latter stages of the season they would start to decline in form because the players were burnt out. Sounds familiar. Yet he moans about fatigue. Too many odd things about him, always have been. |
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Post by Corbray on Mar 22, 2022 16:16:29 GMT
Hard to say, but most of his decision making over the last 9 games seems truly bizarre and inexplicable. Considering what was at stake, how long the board will tolerate that is very difficult to predict, going by their track record. As generally they tend to stick by managers longer than what's in the club's best interests, and we/they only end up ruing not being more decisive sooner. But if we tolerate this, our children will be next. He’s really bolloxed up the last 2 months and for me the signings he made were not only not needed but they’ve completely upset the core group and momentum of the side. Not to mention the obvious one not getting a forward in but to sack him with 8 games to go whilst we still have a chance of the play offs would be crazy. Let’s hope that fucking disgrace of a performance Sunday and the crowds reaction shirks some kind of response out of him finally to change what he’s been doing. Let’s see. i think marshall and sanderson were good signings on paper and filled gaps we needed sorted out. marshall has been very good whilst sanderson has been good in spells and woeful at other times but imo its too early to properly judge him. hendrick is just one of the most pointless signings we've made in the last 10 years though. he's absolutely dogshit, likely on big wages and has completely pushed other people further down the pecking order. dozzell hasn't had a proper chance to grow as a player which is a shame as he has something about him thats worth developing. he can't be any worse than jeff thats for sure |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 22, 2022 17:08:50 GMT
No one will convince me that Hendrick was a planned signing. Last minute panic, no logic.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 22, 2022 17:21:09 GMT
I’ve heard we was forced at gun point to take him
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Post by Rangers77 on Mar 22, 2022 19:19:13 GMT
I wanna keep him. But I also will want to kick fuck out of him if he picks Hendrick and Sanderson again.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 22, 2022 20:03:04 GMT
Get your boots ready for Fulham game
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Post by Shania on Mar 22, 2022 22:54:43 GMT
Playoffs have gone. Give him until end of season. See who else is available and decide if we can get anyone better. No point getting rid if we end up bringing Holloway back! We missed a huge change this season. League was poor and we had some lucky results. We were in a fantastic position and we had nearly a fully fit squad. What makes you think that we get Holloway back.? I should believe the Board want a similar better version of Warburton. A better coach with a nouse for tactic and man-managment. |
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Post by spongeparr on Mar 23, 2022 9:38:50 GMT
Don't know how to post the image of it without saving it somewhere. on QPR fans FB page, 17 want Warburton out and 311 want to keep him.
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