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Post by Bill on Jan 6, 2024 8:10:55 GMT
OK Bill if you believe I'm the one here who isn't clued up and that the owners are making fortunes out of QPR then you knock yourself out Thanks for your permission |
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Post by The General on Jan 7, 2024 17:52:55 GMT
Wots the plan then please let us know
Are we going to Div 1 with a whimper
Or are you going to do something
Please let us all know
As we have invested thousands into your pockets
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Post by The General on Jan 7, 2024 17:53:36 GMT
Sign some farking players ffs
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 7, 2024 18:54:55 GMT
And if you’re reading this fuck off, sell up and get out of this club, you useless cunts. You’ve absolutely ruined us.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 7, 2024 18:57:36 GMT
Fuck the board.
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Post by The General on Jan 7, 2024 19:41:07 GMT
Fuck the board they are useless cunts
10 years of cultism
Fuck off now
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Post by conorqpr on Jan 7, 2024 21:20:15 GMT
The ownership needs to go.
sell up to someone who wants this club to succeed.
The radio silence whilst we slowly drift into League 1 is seriously angering me.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 7, 2024 22:16:13 GMT
We've all been frustrated with them for a long time but I've fully had enough now.
The absolute shit show they've overseen since we were unlucky enough to encounter them will go down in our history as one of the darkest times, buckets n all.
They are steering us blindly into the abyss with their terrible running of this club, the unbelievably shit appointments from Phil useless prick Beard, to being arse raped by Kia what's his cunt the agent, to Mark Hughes and Mike Rigg, to Les Ferdinand milking the place dry & the smarmy Yank Hoos. Coaches on a cushy number who develop and produce absolutely fuck all, Paul Hall, the fella with the beard on the bench, the shit signings, the awful website, the nonsense about a new ground, the pricing of games, the utterly shite recruitment of players and managers I've had a fucking nuff of these cunts.
I will crack open a bottle of champagne the day these clowns up sticks and piss off.
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Post by acricketer on Jan 7, 2024 22:17:50 GMT
A QPR is for life not just for Christmas.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 7, 2024 22:21:39 GMT
A QPR is for life not just for Christmas. A life of misery |
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Post by hubble on Jan 8, 2024 1:30:28 GMT
A QPR is for life not just for Christmas. A life of misery
It's a choice though, innit lads? It's a choice whether we follow them, and it's a choice whether we feel miserable about it when we do. OK, it's not easy, once you've invested so much of your life, your emotions, in something as abstract and fucking unreciprocating as a football team, but if you try, you can remain sanguine. You can say, sod it, I'm going to enjoy life anyway.
Or maybe we like the misery? After all, what's the point of the journey, without the lows? Don't they make the highs - few and far between though they be - so good? Didn't Hillsborough 2004 or the 2010/11 season, or Wembley 2014 make all the rest worth it? I remember being at some absolutely diabolical game - like losing to Tranmere at home on a freezing January in 2003 - several long years after we got relegated from the prem and then from the championship, and thinking: what the fuck am I doing? And then 16 months later I'm high as a kite on a balcony outside the Bushranger celebrating promotion, high on the emotion for weeks....
it's a kind of madness, isn't it. But then life is mad, isn't it? In the search for meaning, does football provide us with some kind of anchor? Who knows.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 8, 2024 6:05:17 GMT
It's a choice though, innit lads? It's a choice whether we follow them, and it's a choice whether we feel miserable about it when we do. OK, it's not easy, once you've invested so much of your life, your emotions, in something as abstract and fucking unreciprocating as a football team, but if you try, you can remain sanguine. You can say, sod it, I'm going to enjoy life anyway.
Or maybe we like the misery? After all, what's the point of the journey, without the lows? Don't they make the highs - few and far between though they be - so good? Didn't Hillsborough 2004 or the 2010/11 season, or Wembley 2014 make all the rest worth it? I remember being at some absolutely diabolical game - like losing to Tranmere at home on a freezing January in 2003 - several long years after we got relegated from the prem and then from the championship, and thinking: what the fuck am I doing? And then 16 months later I'm high as a kite on a balcony outside the Bushranger celebrating promotion, high on the emotion for weeks....
it's a kind of madness, isn't it. But then life is mad, isn't it? In the search for meaning, does football provide us with some kind of anchor? Who knows.
No not at all. Two moments in our history that we earned. How should 1001 other disastrous decisions make things all fine and dandy? Most losses out of any club in the league in the last 10 years. Most losses in the cup in the competitions history. Just think about that. For the record my life is great but we're not talking about that are we? We're talking about the abysmal running of a football club, our football club that is being run into the ground by owners who haven't a clue. What have they actually done right in all the time they've been here apart from the training ground, which the fans mainly funded let's not forget. A total and utter shit show! |
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Post by Bill on Jan 8, 2024 7:45:08 GMT
All actions have consequences.
All downhill since Tf walked in the door.
Yes a couple of false dawns.
And here we are,not a pot to piss in and Reuben paying millions to keep us afloat.
He is a business man and ive never known a man of his ilk to walk away without recovering his dosh.
Thats why what ive heard is possible,logical and makes sense.Feelings of fans dont come into the equation its about money.
Takeover would be good but be carefull it could be the largest shit show yet.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 8, 2024 8:16:09 GMT
Words cannot describe how bad this club has been run since August 2011. Fernandes has form for fucking up sporting projects and he was responsible for the period of August 2011 until May 2013 and that is where the starting point was and why we are so fucked now. The board have put this dope Hoos in charge to count the beans and be the one that stops any potential spending. Marti Clufentes is the best signing this club has made since Charlie Austin in August 2013 and just like Austin is likely to walk away when his reputation has been built. I have feared this club for the past five years and it was only Warburton and the sale of Eze which delayed where we find ourselves now.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 8, 2024 9:29:07 GMT
It's a choice though, innit lads? It's a choice whether we follow them, and it's a choice whether we feel miserable about it when we do. OK, it's not easy, once you've invested so much of your life, your emotions, in something as abstract and fucking unreciprocating as a football team, but if you try, you can remain sanguine. You can say, sod it, I'm going to enjoy life anyway.
Or maybe we like the misery? After all, what's the point of the journey, without the lows? Don't they make the highs - few and far between though they be - so good? Didn't Hillsborough 2004 or the 2010/11 season, or Wembley 2014 make all the rest worth it? I remember being at some absolutely diabolical game - like losing to Tranmere at home on a freezing January in 2003 - several long years after we got relegated from the prem and then from the championship, and thinking: what the fuck am I doing? And then 16 months later I'm high as a kite on a balcony outside the Bushranger celebrating promotion, high on the emotion for weeks....
it's a kind of madness, isn't it. But then life is mad, isn't it? In the search for meaning, does football provide us with some kind of anchor? Who knows.
I agree with that, to a point. Winning all the time would be boring. Look at City and their fans eing ciritisized. Having said that, you're talking like it's a given that we would bounce back. We could absolutely do a Bradford, Oldham etc and end up down the leagues for god knows how long. |
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Post by hubble on Jan 8, 2024 10:27:31 GMT
It's a choice though, innit lads? It's a choice whether we follow them, and it's a choice whether we feel miserable about it when we do. OK, it's not easy, once you've invested so much of your life, your emotions, in something as abstract and fucking unreciprocating as a football team, but if you try, you can remain sanguine. You can say, sod it, I'm going to enjoy life anyway.
Or maybe we like the misery? After all, what's the point of the journey, without the lows? Don't they make the highs - few and far between though they be - so good? Didn't Hillsborough 2004 or the 2010/11 season, or Wembley 2014 make all the rest worth it? I remember being at some absolutely diabolical game - like losing to Tranmere at home on a freezing January in 2003 - several long years after we got relegated from the prem and then from the championship, and thinking: what the fuck am I doing? And then 16 months later I'm high as a kite on a balcony outside the Bushranger celebrating promotion, high on the emotion for weeks....
it's a kind of madness, isn't it. But then life is mad, isn't it? In the search for meaning, does football provide us with some kind of anchor? Who knows.
I agree with that, to a point. Winning all the time would be boring. Look at City and their fans eing ciritisized. Having said that, you're talking like it's a given that we would bounce back. We could absolutely do a Bradford, Oldham etc and end up down the leagues for god knows how long. Not at all Sponge - 'bounce back'? No.... I don't expect that. All I know is that the journey has cycles, like everything else in life... and I'm just riffing on the weirdness of being a football fan, where you invest so much time and emotion in an abstract entity (what is QPR?) and the only thing tangible about it is the people you meet at the games (before/during/after) and the physical reality of the stadium and the people running around on the pitch in different coloured kits.
But what I am pointing out is that we do have a choice: how we feel about it. Because most of what we invest our emotions in is not 'real', yet through a process of complex conceptual layering - rules, belief systems, social programming and so on - we act as if it is real.
Hope I haven't lost people!
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 8, 2024 12:03:08 GMT
Yeah that makes sense. Most clubs go in around 5 year cycles. Southampton were shit for ages, got promoted and done well over around 5 years and then got relegated again.
Ipswich, Sunderland somehting similar. You tend to end up around where you normally are for the bulk of the time ... which is about where we are now!
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 8, 2024 12:05:42 GMT
So cmon u worried bunch, how much would it cost to buy out? Not what the dreaming twats want, but what they actually may get!
And I still don’t give a toss, but bored digging a trench in the snow
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Post by Bill on Jan 8, 2024 13:29:20 GMT
It's a choice though, innit lads? It's a choice whether we follow them, and it's a choice whether we feel miserable about it when we do. OK, it's not easy, once you've invested so much of your life, your emotions, in something as abstract and fucking unreciprocating as a football team, but if you try, you can remain sanguine. You can say, sod it, I'm going to enjoy life anyway.
Or maybe we like the misery? After all, what's the point of the journey, without the lows? Don't they make the highs - few and far between though they be - so good? Didn't Hillsborough 2004 or the 2010/11 season, or Wembley 2014 make all the rest worth it? I remember being at some absolutely diabolical game - like losing to Tranmere at home on a freezing January in 2003 - several long years after we got relegated from the prem and then from the championship, and thinking: what the fuck am I doing? And then 16 months later I'm high as a kite on a balcony outside the Bushranger celebrating promotion, high on the emotion for weeks....
it's a kind of madness, isn't it. But then life is mad, isn't it? In the search for meaning, does football provide us with some kind of anchor? Who knows.
I agree with that, to a point. Winning all the time would be boring. Look at City and their fans eing ciritisized. Having said that, you're talking like it's a given that we would bounce back. We could absolutely do a Bradford, Oldham etc and end up down the leagues for god knows how long. Could be worse than that to be honest which is my concern. I am lucky seeing a lot of the good years of real football. Then the money men came along,player power and the cheating wimps that play the modern game which is about as far removed from the old game you could get imo. I will still support Rangers wherever we end up along as i consider the board players etc are there for the right reasons. However we have had a bunch of cowboys for the last 12 years with a couple of gunfights along the way. My fear is now we face an ambush by an american consortium. To coin a phrase "anything could happen in the next hour"hope Mr Tracy is on our side. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 8, 2024 13:59:27 GMT
Yes, they’ve been awful but I’ve posted many times ‘be careful what you wish for’ because at least we still have a club and they’ve lost millions. Their failing has been their recruitment of senior management. I’ve never been convinced by Hoos, Les was a disaster and I’m no fan of Ramsey. Not sure you can blame them for Michael but Critchley wasn’t a good fit and Ainsworth was a car crash, but lots of fans wanted him. They acknowledged that they couldn’t run a football club but lacked the understanding to bring the right people in who could.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 15:07:07 GMT
Here's the dilemma...
To compete as we did in the 80s and early 90s we need to sell our souls to the rich boys, again, and kill the club in the process.
To be an authentic version of QPR we need to lose the morons in 'charge' at the moment and have owners who subscribe to the 'QPR way' or doing things - producing youngsters and identifying players at lower levels to buy cheap and sell high - but this will mean a decade or more bouncing around the lower regions of the football league before we 'do a Brentford'.
As for the meaning of supporting QPR, it's not that deep and people shouldn't take it to serious lengths. As discussed in other threads some fans have ended up bankrupt following the club and others, more recently, decided to downsize their home post Liz Truss rather than stop going to QPR to find the extra money for the mortgage, these people needed someone to shake some sense into them....
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Post by Corbray on Jan 8, 2024 16:18:36 GMT
Here's the dilemma... To compete as we did in the 80s and early 90s we need to sell our souls to the rich boys, again, and kill the club in the process. To be an authentic version of QPR we need to lose the morons in 'charge' at the moment and have owners who subscribe to the 'QPR way' or doing things - producing youngsters and identifying players at lower levels to buy cheap and sell high - but this will mean a decade or more bouncing around the lower regions of the football league before we 'do a Brentford'. As for the meaning of supporting QPR, it's not that deep and people shouldn't take it to serious lengths. As discussed in other threads some fans have ended up bankrupt following the club and others, more recently, decided to downsize their home post Liz Truss rather than stop going to QPR to find the extra money for the mortgage, these people needed someone to shake some sense into them.... its been a difficult 10 years aside from a few iconic games and the day at wembley. nothing more to show for it though, sadly. but hubble is right that we'll go through another cycle eventually as most clubs our size do. it might not seem like it now but given i'm only 30 i'd be very surprised if we as a club never make it into europe at least once or go on a long cup run in my life time with a few england players spruced about over the years. sometimes it needs to get worse before it gets better especially when a club is as decayed as ours is lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 16:43:38 GMT
Here's the dilemma... To compete as we did in the 80s and early 90s we need to sell our souls to the rich boys, again, and kill the club in the process. To be an authentic version of QPR we need to lose the morons in 'charge' at the moment and have owners who subscribe to the 'QPR way' or doing things - producing youngsters and identifying players at lower levels to buy cheap and sell high - but this will mean a decade or more bouncing around the lower regions of the football league before we 'do a Brentford'. As for the meaning of supporting QPR, it's not that deep and people shouldn't take it to serious lengths. As discussed in other threads some fans have ended up bankrupt following the club and others, more recently, decided to downsize their home post Liz Truss rather than stop going to QPR to find the extra money for the mortgage, these people needed someone to shake some sense into them.... its been a difficult 10 years aside from a few iconic games and the day at wembley. nothing more to show for it though, sadly. but hubble is right that we'll go through another cycle eventually as most clubs our size do. it might not seem like it now but given i'm only 30 i'd be very surprised if we as a club never make it into europe at least once or go on a long cup run in my life time with a few england players spruced about over the years. sometimes it needs to get worse before it gets better especially when a club is as decayed as ours is lol. We haven't played in Europe for 39 years. For 5 of them English clubs were banned so 34 seasons. To get there again we'd have to win a cup or finish in the top 6 in the Premier League. Both are possible but on the current trajectory football is on we would need significant investment from the middle east and, in the process, the club would stop resembling what QPR should. That's the dilemma. The cycle we find ourselves in is normally 15 - 20 years so if we do carry on the same path it'll be around 2039 when we find ourselves back in this predicament BUT football has changed so much since we last dropped into the 3rd tier that its almost impossible to draw a direct comparison. On a slight tangent, I wish we collectively looked at the win at Wembley differently. It should be remembered as a 'That's all we got for allowing the rich men to kill the club' moment but it is revered, almost shamefully. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 8, 2024 17:59:29 GMT
Here's the dilemma... To compete as we did in the 80s and early 90s we need to sell our souls to the rich boys, again, and kill the club in the process. To be an authentic version of QPR we need to lose the morons in 'charge' at the moment and have owners who subscribe to the 'QPR way' or doing things - producing youngsters and identifying players at lower levels to buy cheap and sell high - but this will mean a decade or more bouncing around the lower regions of the football league before we 'do a Brentford'. As for the meaning of supporting QPR, it's not that deep and people shouldn't take it to serious lengths. As discussed in other threads some fans have ended up bankrupt following the club and others, more recently, decided to downsize their home post Liz Truss rather than stop going to QPR to find the extra money for the mortgage, these people needed someone to shake some sense into them.... its been a difficult 10 years aside from a few iconic games and the day at wembley. nothing more to show for it though, sadly. but hubble is right that we'll go through another cycle eventually as most clubs our size do. it might not seem like it now but given i'm only 30 i'd be very surprised if we as a club never make it into europe at least once or go on a long cup run in my life time with a few england players spruced about over the years. sometimes it needs to get worse before it gets better especially when a club is as decayed as ours is lol. Sorry to rain on your parade Corbs. Some clubs dont recycle and find their level,which given the shambles in the last 10 tears its amazing we are in the championship. As ive said i think we will be relegated and i dont any signings of a significant standard to change this. At present i think our future is bleak,recycle,more a case of remaining active for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 18:12:05 GMT
its been a difficult 10 years aside from a few iconic games and the day at wembley. nothing more to show for it though, sadly. but hubble is right that we'll go through another cycle eventually as most clubs our size do. it might not seem like it now but given i'm only 30 i'd be very surprised if we as a club never make it into europe at least once or go on a long cup run in my life time with a few england players spruced about over the years. sometimes it needs to get worse before it gets better especially when a club is as decayed as ours is lol. Sorry to rain on your parade Corbs. Some clubs dont recycle and find their level,which given the shambles in the last 10 tears its amazing we are in the championship. As ive said i think we will be relegated and i dont any signings of a significant standard to change this. At present i think our future is bleak,recycle,more a case of remaining active for me. We're not too big to avoid a complete collapse and end up in the National League... Yes it is the worse case scenario but if people don't realise tahtnit is a possibility then they haven't been paying attention. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 8, 2024 18:16:07 GMT
Whats next chaps ?
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Post by Bill on Jan 8, 2024 18:21:24 GMT
Outgoing player/s ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2024 18:32:26 GMT
It's already 8 days into what many believe is the most crucial transfer window in the history of QPR and we've bought no players.
My worry is that we'll offload a significant number which will not only confirm relegation but necessitate the need to bring in double figures in the close season...
If they don't gel quickly we could be relegated again next year.
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Post by 1973ranger on Jan 8, 2024 21:31:40 GMT
The con man Hoos spins it like Shane Warne used to! With that man in charge we should fear the worst and anything else is a bonus
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 9, 2024 0:18:47 GMT
Fascinating thread. Was idly musing today about how better off we might have been if Derby had beaten us at Wembley.......
But even knowing how shit it's been since, who would forfeit that amazing Zamora moment?
Hubs makes some sense, however. I'd have stopped being a Man City fan the minute they started buying success. Give me Dennis Tueart or Colin Bell any day over whichever globalists they have playing in their position today.
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