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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 10, 2022 6:55:43 GMT
Compare this side with the last Rangers side that made the playoffs in 2014. Not in the same league if you think about it. That team at least had some fight, spirit and togetherness about them. For all Harry's faults at least he engendered that spirit in the players. not sure that’s entirely accurate. They had experience but not sure they were a United group. We struggled towards end of that season too and was it not Barton getting the mind doctor involved which made the difference and ironed out some shortcomings which led to the cringy hashtags WeAretogether. If I recall right there were suggestions of Harry losing dressing room too Same problem then as now brining in players in Jan not up to it Maiga, Keane Think there were a couple more who came and coasted That semi-final under the lights and then the final is what will mainly be remembered though. Agree there were still issues in the camp but to compare the two play-off campaigns, one has totally capitulated whilst the other "found a way" as the slogan at the time went. Yes obviously there were huge differences in budget with that squad, but the reasons for this season's demise can be laid at that door only in part. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 10, 2022 8:16:35 GMT
Very interesting comparison with Rangers on MOTD last night - and I’m not comparing players before anyone jumps on me, I’m talking about the idea. Spurs were being closed down by Villa’s energetic high press so second half Conte went long and took their press out of the game. Can you imagine MW doing that? We’d carry on sideways and backwards, taking care of the football (!) - getting nowhere. We don’t have a Son with pace nor a Kane with a brain but I bet Gray would like something over the top to charge after and even Dykes might get on the end of something. I doubt Conte will start the next match like it but it was a means to an end in a particular game.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2022 8:22:25 GMT
We just have a decent squad on paper
But in reality a poor one.
Old, too reliant on couple, rest bang average at best. On the whole no pace and a poor return attack
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2022 8:28:41 GMT
A very poor return for an investment of over £12m during his tenure.
Other than prem yo-yo clubs I doubt many other clubs have spent similar in the transfer market.
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 10, 2022 12:28:17 GMT
A very poor return for an investment of over £12m during his tenure. Other than prem yo-yo clubs I doubt many other clubs have spent similar in the transfer market. You reckon Warburton's net spend on transfers is over 12m quid across his tenure? Haven't worked it out myself, but I'd be genuinely surprised if it's that high. |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2022 13:07:11 GMT
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 10, 2022 13:13:52 GMT
Very interesting comparison with Rangers on MOTD last night - and I’m not comparing players before anyone jumps on me, I’m talking about the idea. Spurs were being closed down by Villa’s energetic high press so second half Conte went long and took their press out of the game. Can you imagine MW doing that? We’d carry on sideways and backwards, taking care of the football (!) - getting nowhere. We don’t have a Son with pace nor a Kane with a brain but I bet Gray would like something over the top to charge after and even Dykes might get on the end of something. I doubt Conte will start the next match like it but it was a means to an end in a particular game. Good point and exactly what any manager should do when things are not working. It’s so clear that he is shit scared to change anything during a game. How and why he sticks to this I will never know. He is being shown to be extremely limited when the chips are down. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 10, 2022 13:22:02 GMT
Not being funny mate, this club would run at a loss regardless of who the manager is. |
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Post by sparks on Apr 10, 2022 13:41:04 GMT
Not being funny mate, this club would run at a loss regardless of who the manager is. That’s a difficult point to argue against Tarbie. if I were to try to though, do you think if a club like Peterborough had spent £10m on transfers do you think they may have done better ? |
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2022 14:27:23 GMT
Very interesting comparison with Rangers on MOTD last night - and I’m not comparing players before anyone jumps on me, I’m talking about the idea. Spurs were being closed down by Villa’s energetic high press so second half Conte went long and took their press out of the game. Can you imagine MW doing that? We’d carry on sideways and backwards, taking care of the football (!) - getting nowhere. We don’t have a Son with pace nor a Kane with a brain but I bet Gray would like something over the top to charge after and even Dykes might get on the end of something. I doubt Conte will start the next match like it but it was a means to an end in a particular game. Tactics |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 10, 2022 14:29:40 GMT
For 12 million I’d want players under 30 with some resale value
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Post by Bill on Apr 10, 2022 14:47:37 GMT
not sure that’s entirely accurate. They had experience but not sure they were a United group. We struggled towards end of that season too and was it not Barton getting the mind doctor involved which made the difference and ironed out some shortcomings which led to the cringy hashtags WeAretogether. If I recall right there were suggestions of Harry losing dressing room too Same problem then as now brining in players in Jan not up to it Maiga, Keane Think there were a couple more who came and coasted That semi-final under the lights and then the final is what will mainly be remembered though. Agree there were still issues in the camp but to compare the two play-off campaigns, one has totally capitulated whilst the other "found a way" as the slogan at the time went. Yes obviously there were huge differences in budget with that squad, but the reasons for this season's demise can be laid at that door only in part. That team had real leaders on the pitch,this team has no real leaders on or off the pitch. |
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Post by The General on Apr 10, 2022 16:07:40 GMT
Not being funny mate, this club would run at a loss regardless of who the manager is. Also not being funny but if you want a football club you have to invest in it or don’t get one Abramavic invested 220 million two seasons ago on four players Weve spent 12 million over two seasons so what big deal in the big picture |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 10, 2022 16:42:58 GMT
By invested you mean "Washed" Gen! 🤣
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Post by The General on Apr 10, 2022 17:48:47 GMT
If Abramavic wanted to take over Qpr
What would you say
Qpr into the big time or moral guilt
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Post by acricketer on Apr 10, 2022 21:00:20 GMT
Pass the vodka!
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 14, 2022 10:04:28 GMT
WLS saying he's "expected to leave". Surprised at such an adamant title tbh
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Post by sparks on Apr 14, 2022 10:39:23 GMT
I was always impressed listening to Steve Gallen when he was our U23 manager, think he’s now at Charlton overseeing their youth development who are on course for a second successive title winning u18 team.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 14, 2022 11:15:16 GMT
I was always impressed listening to Steve Gallen when he was our U23 manager, think he’s now at Charlton overseeing their youth development who are on course for a second successive title winning u18 team. he’s DOF I think |
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Post by sparks on Apr 14, 2022 11:34:16 GMT
I was always impressed listening to Steve Gallen when he was our U23 manager, think he’s now at Charlton overseeing their youth development who are on course for a second successive title winning u18 team. he’s DOF I think Yes your correct, for some reason I thought he held the same type of head of coaching role as Chris Ramsey. |
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Post by Shania on Apr 14, 2022 14:19:09 GMT
WLS saying he's "expected to leave". Surprised at such an adamant title tbh According to Clive on LFW, Mcintyre is still definetly the only ITK journo in matters like these. |
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Post by Tarbie on Apr 14, 2022 14:43:24 GMT
Doesn't take a genius to be aware that Warburton will not be here next season. I told you as much on here 3 games ago.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 28, 2022 7:24:14 GMT
Don’t sound like a ringing endorsement
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 28, 2022 8:17:30 GMT
WLS reporting that "Mark Warburton has confirmed he does not expect to be kept on as QPR manager at the end of the season when his contract with the club expires."
Oooer...
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Post by jfrabbit on Apr 28, 2022 8:23:04 GMT
Unfortunately our absolute capitulation caused by his own bad management, bad transfer business, and terrible starting lineups has now come to the fore.
Thanks Mark but it really is time to go.
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Post by spongeparr on Apr 28, 2022 8:38:32 GMT
I think the fact that we were backed last summer yet finishing with a lower points total, as well as a weak finish to the season, has made the boards mind up.
If he does leave, I wish him all the best. Will go down as a good manager for us.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 28, 2022 9:18:01 GMT
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Apr 28, 2022 9:19:37 GMT
We are now entering "be careful what you wish for" time. Agree that Ferdinand quote all but confirms Warbs will go. I for one will miss him as it was under Warbs that it seemed to me QPR broadly speaking was being well managed for the first time since Warnock (and even Warno had major faults like not focusing on youth development). Stand by for outraged howls when we are being linked, not with Jurgen Klopp who of course would love to manage QPR IF ONLY THE BOARD WOULD SHOW SOME AMBITION AND PROMISE TO BUY A STRIKER, and instead a mixture of has-beens, never-beens and complete shot-in-the-dark might be good in the future lower league managers we haven't heard of.
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Post by Corbray on Apr 28, 2022 9:27:20 GMT
i've enjoyed warbs reign and agree that he is the best manager we've had since neil. we've had some great highs with him and there's no doubt in my mind that he's taken us forward. we're in a much better position than when he arrived thats for sure and for much of his tenure we've instilled an attractive style of play into the players.
however i do fully believe that he's taken us as far as he can. at the start of the season warbs even said that the playoffs were the aim for this season but we've totally capitulated and have been awful for the past 15 games or so which can't be understated.
its a tough job but it is what it is and its time for us to move on and bring in a coach who can take us to the next level.
i've said it time and time again but neil critchley should be top of our list as the next manager. worked wonders at blackpool on a shoestring budget and has probably taken them as far as he can. we'd be a very good fit imo, he plays good football and has his players working hard so the transition would be seamless
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 28, 2022 9:31:48 GMT
We are now entering "be careful what you wish for" time. Agree that Ferdinand quote all but confirms Warbs will go. I for one will miss him as it was under Warbs that it seemed to me QPR broadly speaking was being well managed for the first time since Warnock (and even Warno had major faults like not focusing on youth development). Stand by for outraged howls when we are being linked, not with Jurgen Klopp who of course would love to manage QPR IF ONLY THE BOARD WOULD SHOW SOME AMBITION AND PROMISE TO BUY A STRIKER, and instead a mixture of has-beens, never-beens and complete shot-in-the-dark might be good in the future lower league managers we haven't heard of. True, but I firmly believe we are about to enter the downward slide of the MW rollercoaster again. I think it will be a very difficult league next season as a lot of clubs have got their act together since the upheaval and whether it’s Leeds, Burnley or Everton coming down I bet there will only be play-offs to aim for. There’s a risk going for someone with different ideas and if it slaps us in the mouth the MW fans will make the most of it, but it’s got to be done. |
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