Who could do a better job than Warbs?

Your point is moot, as they got him on loan in January 21, and he signed a permanent deal there in the summer. 15 goals is for the full season. He's managed 7 goals since January, but he was never an option for us.

Agree that he is a good player, though, and that we should have recruited an attacking option instead of Hendrick. It just could never have been Viktor Gyökeres.

Stand corrected. Thing is that you don't have to spend 10m on a striker at this level. 15 goals puts him in the top six championship scorers for the season.

We haven't got one in the top 20. 

Sure, because a fool and their money are easily parted.

DK, through no fault of his own, Andre Gray has been hugely under used this season. As far as I'm concerned that is this season's biggest mystery because it's a question that has never been put directly to Warburton. Why he has consistently started Dykes ahead of him makes no sense.

Agreed. Of the three he is the only one who has looked really dangerous. Also, I don't get why they haven't been pushing Chaz harder in training to get him firing. Some more game time as well. They've had a full season ffs. 

Doesn't just look dangerous, his stats prove it with his 1 in 2 ratio.

The times MW has contradicted himself this season has destroyed any confidence I have of him taking this club further.

Did he really see the likes of Moses,Wallace, Albert and Jordy complete the season without their age and previous injury problems becoming an issue.

It’s well known he likes a small squad but that train of thought has obvious drawbacks, but did he best utilise the squad like he kept repeating he needed to do during interviews, I don’t think so imo.

In his most recent interview he was asked about staying with 2 CBs and his reply was “out of necessity” which signals he has learnt very little this season about keep doing the same thing but expecting different results.

Can’t agree with the point about us being in a great position to go up
Firstly, we were never likely to make automatics, that was a figment of some of our fans imagination.
Assuming we’d managed to bring in a decent striker, we’d most likely have made play offs. But, would we have gone up that way, it’s a complete unknown and my guess is no.
It’s only a guess though, as is anyone else’s opinion. And for anyone saying we did it before, that was then. The expression lightening doesn’t strike twice springs to mind.

Whether we would or wouldn’t have gone up is anyone guess.
What seems to be apparent though and this isn’t levelled at anyone in particular, is that some fans made their mind up that we were almost certainly going up, one way or another and that Warbs single handed fucked it up so he now needs punishing with the sack.

We’ve sold arguably the two best players we’ve had for years, reducing our losses in the process yet looking better on the pitch than we have for years. Some of the football we play is head and shoulders above your average championship team. You only have to look at the Amos goal against Huddersfield to see that.
That’s progress. Yes we’ve signed some shite, but that’s what happens when you don’t have cash to splash. Some additions are speculative and don’t work out. For the most part we’ve brought in some average players and made them better.
Plus we’ve had some very unlucky injuries. For those that say so does every team, what really? Three goalkeepers and our best outfield player all out at a crucial part of the season.
Yes Warbs comes across as stubborn but I’m sure he’s an intelligent man, he’ll have learnt a lot which can only benefit us next season, if he’s still here.

As for promotion and premier league football, I can’t believe so many fans are wetting their pants about not making it to the premier league this season so we can get humiliated the majority of weeks. For what, money? So we can eventually become another Burnley, fighting in a mini league to avoid relegation.

The club will still be here in years to come, whatever league we are in. If we’re playing good football so be it, the premier league and all the shite that comes with it can wait.

A fair few Brentford fans wanted Thomas Frank out last year when they thought they were blowing promotion, I wonder what their thoughts are now.

Rant over, I’ll now concentrate on getting hammered and probably burnt, in a pub beer garden in Twickenham.

i don't think most fans would be calling for warbs to be sacked if we'd lost the playoffs tbh. it'd have been viewed as progress.

no one was expecting us to be promoted but given that we kept the squad together and were performing well we were at least hopeful of promotion.

heck, if we'd won our games at peterbrough and barnsley we'd all be a little more optimistic at our chances of making the playoffs. those games were inexcusable to lose at this stage of the season.

Those are exactly my thoughts Corbray,we were absolutely nailed on to make the playoffs with an exceptionally easy run of games to cement it.

If we had lost the playoffs I don’t think many fans would be calling for the manager to be replaced, the chap that pays the bills might though.

I can’t agree. There are no give me’s in the championship. Week in week out the form book gets tossed out of the window and teams beat teams they weren’t supposed to beat, then subsequently lose to so called inferior opposition. It’s been happening since the year dot, more so in recent years. That’s why pretty much every pundit agrees that the championship is the hardest league to get out of bar none, of any league globally.

There’s usually more than one way to look at things. Instead of saying because we beat a few good teams we had no right to lose to Barnsley et al, you could say we had no right to beat the teams we did.

It’s not an argument to say because the players raised their game against one team they should automatically be able to do it against other, lesser opposition. If that’s the case how do you explain underdogs winning cup games. Wigan beat Man City in the cup in 2013, explain that. Does that mean they were underperforming in most of their other games that season.
Like I say, Warburton has his faults but it’s likely he’ll learn from some of them.
The alternative is get rid, bring in a new manager and start the whole process again. For what, to hopefully accelerate the premier league dream which let’s face it is something we’ve had force fed on us for years. The whole idea that if you’re not in it, or have no chance of making it, you might as well not bother.
Fuck that, we’ve spent most of our existence outside of it. Don’t let the money men con you into thinking it’s the be all and end all, it isn’t. Journey men looking for a final pay packet, Man bun afflicted tarts who prance around like Bambi, throwing themselves on the floor as soon as they feel another players breath on their shoulder.
I like seeing us win as much as the next fan, but for me, going up is just as much a negative by product as a positive.
As fans, we’ve been more in touch with our club when we’ve been out of the premier league, not in it.
Don’t get me wrong, if it happens, no dramas, it will help pay for a few things we could do with. But a part of me will be thinking a lot will change and not for the better.

As for Warburton, the only reason we should get rid is if we have a realistic replacement who can work within the constraints we are under. That includes developing players to sell at a profit.
Not a punishment sacking because he quashed the unrealistic dreams of some of our fans.
Those dreams only existed because he won us a fair few games and had us playing some decent football in the process, albeit not consistently.

No, but they would this time - we’ve learnt the lesson.

Indeed. Only possible explanation can be that there are off-field/ attitude issues.

Start of the season you could have said Dykes was chosen for his work rate/ putting himself about but not the last few months. Both as lazy as each other but at least Gray scores.