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Post by sparks on Aug 2, 2023 10:15:29 GMT
I sensed a bit of irony in your first post 77
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Post by Rangers77 on Aug 2, 2023 15:25:29 GMT
I sensed a bit of irony in your first post 77 I genuinely said to myself Jamal Lowe? Who he? Then I remembered him. Lol.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 4, 2023 8:00:45 GMT
its quite scary lol. we've lost 8 first teamers from last season and haven't signed any upgrades. in comparison to last year we've brought in some good squad players but they'll be some of the first names on the teamsheet.
i know we'll end up bringing more players in and i'm confident that the club will panic by the end of the window and spend money we don't have. we did the same thing a few years ago when we brought in wells and hemed on loan.
atm our season hinges on willock and chair refinding form and dykes becoming a 20 goal a season striker because as it stands we're right up shit creek.
i've said that i believe we'll either have a great year or a shit one, there's no lower mid table finish or scraping through on the final day for us. its either a top half finish or relegation but as time goes on i'm leaning more towards the latter. something just feels wrong with the club, gaz has a defeated attitude and looks filled with regret. his whole demeanor in his prematch interview was a stark contrast to his first interview with the club.
steve cook could be a good signing but he's also 32/33 now and well past his best. i understand that we need some model pro's in the club but its obvious that so many of the "right sort" that we've signed over the years aren't up for the fight and are here simply to pick up a wage and then move on.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 4, 2023 9:33:11 GMT
i'm confident that the club will panic by the end of the window and spend money we don't have. Thereby breaching FFP
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Post by Corbray on Aug 4, 2023 9:41:10 GMT
i'm confident that the club will panic by the end of the window and spend money we don't have. Thereby breaching FFP yep, but we seem to always resort to short term fixes at the detriment of a long term vision. the club will spend a couple of million on some decent signings and loans with the mindset of "we'll sell chair next summer to make up for it!" in the forlorn assumption that with the new signings he'll have a great season and go up in value thus saving us from FFP.
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Post by sparks on Aug 4, 2023 9:48:34 GMT
yep, but we seem to always resort to short term fixes at the detriment of a long term vision. the club will spend a couple of million on some decent signings and loans with the mindset of "we'll sell chair next summer to make up for it!" in the forlorn assumption that with the new signings he'll have a great season and go up in value thus saving us from FFP. But if the FFP doom mongers are to be believed it’s ‘THIS SEASON” we need to tighten our belts. Every man and his dog realises FFP runs in a 3 year cycle with a total limit of 39m.The figures below are off the top of my head and would enjoy if someone could tell me differently.😁 Our losses were 24m last season…although I personally dispute that as 10m was for training ground and is exempt from FFP but who knows I appear to be in a minority on that one. The year before was 14m Then a loss of just 4.5m because of Eze transfer
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Post by Maidstone_Hoop on Aug 4, 2023 12:24:25 GMT
Wouldn’t say no to another Jamal Lowe loan if funds allow. I am surprised we haven't gone back in for him, would be a excellent pick up for us for the season considering our financial situation and compared to our other choices up top.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 4, 2023 13:44:13 GMT
Wouldn’t say no to another Jamal Lowe loan if funds allow. I am surprised we haven't gone back in for him, would be a excellent pick up for us for the season considering our financial situation and compared to our other choices up top. I thought he was without a club and on a free?
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Post by sparks on Aug 4, 2023 16:31:49 GMT
I am surprised we haven't gone back in for him, would be a excellent pick up for us for the season considering our financial situation and compared to our other choices up top. I thought he was without a club and on a free? Lowe is contracted to Bournemouth until Aug 2024
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Post by The General on Aug 4, 2023 17:45:11 GMT
We really needed another two in this week defenders cbs our defence is shocking atm
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Post by The General on Aug 4, 2023 17:46:15 GMT
Is Dykes our only striker ? How is this possible one striker
Armstrong not up to it yet
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 4, 2023 17:51:15 GMT
Dykes is out injured He got sepsis from having Hyde park construction tattoo on his arse
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 12:29:55 GMT
Became a cult hero at Cardiff whilst on loan from Boro, I’d take him over Donkey every day.
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Post by West Acton on Aug 17, 2023 12:39:20 GMT
Became a cult hero at Cardiff whilst on loan from Boro, I’d take him over Donkey every day. has a truly horrific goals record sparks. 17 games last club zero goals. His stats look proper poop. Not for me
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 12:54:43 GMT
Became a cult hero at Cardiff whilst on loan from Boro, I’d take him over Donkey every day. has a truly horrific goals record sparks. 17 games last club zero goals. His stats look proper poop. Not for me 1 goal every 5 games, not to different to Donkey stats and an upgrade on lumbering Chris Martin imo. Its obvious we need a back up striker to Donkey but who can play that role with zero cash to spend?
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Post by West Acton on Aug 17, 2023 13:13:02 GMT
1in 5 not an upgrade on what we got so what is the point in replacing one non scoring forward with another.
If we want progress need way better then this fella.
Separate question for all what ratio would we deem decent imo 1in 3
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 13:25:27 GMT
1in 5 not an upgrade on what we got so what is the point in replacing one non scoring forward with another. If we want progress need way better then this fella. Separate question for all what ratio would we deem decent imo 1in 3 I would agree his goal scoring record is poor, his 1 in 5 record consists of many lower league games too. Hes a freebie and an obvious punt for a club with nothing to spend. Cant say I’m impressed with 20yr Stansfield and he’s hardly a direct replacement for Dykes role. I think the only other option is Kargbo but in limited game I’ve seen him he’s gets a knock to his face from oppo CB and he disappears.
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 17, 2023 14:28:57 GMT
1in 5 not an upgrade on what we got so what is the point in replacing one non scoring forward with another. If we want progress need way better then this fella. Separate question for all what ratio would we deem decent imo 1in 3 I would agree his goal scoring record is poor, his 1 in 5 record consists of many lower league games too. Hes a freebie and an obvious punt for a club with nothing to spend. Cant say I’m impressed with 20yr Stansfield and he’s hardly a direct replacement for Dykes role. I think the only other option is Kargbo but in limited game I’ve seen him he’s gets a knock to his face from oppo CB and he disappears. No such thing as a freebie though. As an experienced Championship striker with no transfer fee to find, he'd probably be towards the higher end of our wage structure. If that were around £12k per week, he would still cost the club nearly £2m over a three year contract.
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Post by Shania on Aug 17, 2023 14:49:47 GMT
We need to get a DOF with contacts outside Britain in as soon as possible.
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 14:56:30 GMT
I would agree his goal scoring record is poor, his 1 in 5 record consists of many lower league games too. Hes a freebie and an obvious punt for a club with nothing to spend. Cant say I’m impressed with 20yr Stansfield and he’s hardly a direct replacement for Dykes role. I think the only other option is Kargbo but in limited game I’ve seen him he’s gets a knock to his face from oppo CB and he disappears. No such thing as a freebie though. As an experienced Championship striker with no transfer fee to find, he'd probably be towards the higher end of our wage structure. If that were around £12k per week, he would still cost the club nearly £2m over a three year contract. Ok if you want to be pedantic there is no such thing as a freebie. Are there any experienced strikers that would come here for less? I mean Donkey is reputedly on £18k
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 17, 2023 15:39:12 GMT
No such thing as a freebie though. As an experienced Championship striker with no transfer fee to find, he'd probably be towards the higher end of our wage structure. If that were around £12k per week, he would still cost the club nearly £2m over a three year contract. Ok if you want to be pedantic there is no such thing as a freebie. Are there any experienced strikers that would come here for less? I mean Donkey is reputedly on £18k Not being pedantic Sparks, just pointing out the obvious that an experienced striker costs big-time. And that although we might think we don't pay much, even a relatively 'low' (by comparison to other, richer clubs) wage of £12k pw, I thought it might be interesting to show how much that actually costs over the period of a typical contract. So of course you're right, any decent striker would likely cost similar money, but I don't see there's much chance of us 'taking a punt', as there's too much at stake - especially simply as cover for an injured striker. Given we have no money I think we're more likely to bring in (hopefully) decent academy players, which seems to be the way we're going. Would be interesting to know how much Dykes is on - I'd read in the region of £12-13k.
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 15:55:46 GMT
I pointed out similarly with the Begovic transfer,his perceived wages will soon eat into Dieng’s transfer fee but it’s a balancing act, because from my perspective the £2m transfer fee received allows up to 4 players salaries to be paid at approx 10k per week for one season.
I think most people understand footballers salaries are what is the real reason behind most EFL clubs decline.
For me personally I see not getting another striker in within the current window as too much of a gamble not to take.
A simple google search will clearly show Dykes salary is rumoured to be £18k per week.
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 17, 2023 18:27:51 GMT
Had a quick Google Sparks.
For 2023 I found four sites giving supposed wages.
Dykes is earning around £6k, £8k, £12k or £18k a week, depending which one you believe.
None of them is verified, so it’s all guesswork.
Dykes did sign a contract extension recently so my guess would be £12-18k sounds likely.
Given that the board are very tight at the moment, personally I think it unlikely we’ll sign a proven Championship striker unless we sell a player or two first.
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Post by sparks on Aug 17, 2023 18:57:21 GMT
I think it’s generally accepted that all of these player salary sites are largely guesswork, but around 4 or 5 seasons ago there were remarks made by the board that spending was now under control and a player salary cap of £10k was to be the norm in future.Since then the recent figures confirm that it’s certainly not the case now.
As to signing a proven Championship striker I totally agree. But my suggestion Ikpeazu is not a proven Championship striker and perhaps the reason he may come cheaper.
It’s clear that Ainsworth had said that he expects another 2 players in (on loan I presume) but if either are from Premiership then I would guess that their loan fees or salary contribution could quite easily exceed paying ungainly unproven Ikpeazu your estimated £12k salary? Try Googling 19yr old Tim Iroegbunam 5 yr Aston Villa contract details for salary estimates!!!
Let’s see how things pan out Loftus 😁
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 17, 2023 21:49:23 GMT
I think it’s generally accepted that all of these player salary sites are largely guesswork, but around 4 or 5 seasons ago there were remarks made by the board that spending was now under control and a player salary cap of £10k was to be the norm in future.Since then the recent figures confirm that it’s certainly not the case now. As to signing a proven Championship striker I totally agree. But my suggestion Ikpeazu is not a proven Championship striker and perhaps the reason he may come cheaper. It’s clear that Ainsworth had said that he expects another 2 players in (on loan I presume) but if either are from Premiership then I would guess that their loan fees or salary contribution could quite easily exceed paying ungainly unproven Ikpeazu your estimated £12k salary? Try Googling 19yr old Tim Iroegbunam 5 yr Aston Villa contract details for salary estimates!!! Let’s see how things pan out Loftus 😁 Yes, absolutely. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes. The click-baiting on social media just drives the speculation. There are only 2 or 3 accounts I would trust with any meaningful information - the rest are just endlessly requoting each other and random ITKs. All gets a bit mad towards the end of the transfer window.
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 18, 2023 9:57:39 GMT
Haha, just read that Neymar is quitting PSG to play in Saudi on £129m per year on a 2 year contract. £129m per year is nearly £2.5m PER WEEK ffs! One week of Neymar's wages would pay for a new striker at £12k per week for 4 YEARS! Or more than cover QPR's entire monthly expenses/losses - with half a million quid left over each month. Hmmmmm, I suspect Saudi football doesn't have FFP - or Fit & Proper owner legislation for that matter... The world has gone absolutely stark raving bonkers.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 18, 2023 12:59:11 GMT
Haha, just read that Neymar is quitting PSG to play in Saudi on £129m per year on a 2 year contract. £129m per year is nearly £2.5m PER WEEK ffs! One week of Neymar's wages would pay for a new striker at £12k per week for 4 YEARS! Or more than cover QPR's entire monthly expenses/losses - with half a million quid left over each month. Hmmmmm, I suspect Saudi football doesn't have FFP - or Fit & Proper owner legislation for that matter... The world has gone absolutely stark raving bonkers. Game's gone.
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 18, 2023 17:24:03 GMT
Andy Caroll 'made available for transfer'.
Same age as Chris Martin.
Apparently on low wages at Reading.
Should we...??
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Aug 18, 2023 19:25:30 GMT
Andy Caroll 'made available for transfer'. Same age as Chris Martin. Apparently on low wages at Reading. Should we...?? Old and crocked, sounds right up our street.
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Post by 2Loftus on Aug 19, 2023 10:09:59 GMT
Andy Caroll 'made available for transfer'. Same age as Chris Martin. Apparently on low wages at Reading. Should we...?? Old and crocked, sounds right up our street. I see it's Tony Leistner's 33rd birthday today - another year or two and he'll be ready for a comeback at Loftus Road...
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