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Post by jfrabbit on Jul 8, 2024 16:26:35 GMT
He could score more than our three strikers combined and still be in single figures, so on that basis I'm certainly not going to bet against you! That said, every window there are scores of players where fans say "I wish we got him". Lets reserve judgement until the close of the window. Am not defending the club's record on strikers - which has been abysmal - but we don't know yet what budgets and other targets we have. Think the new regime has earned the right to be judged at the end of the process, not near its beginning. I'd also imagine we'd be looking more in the continental market than the domestic one, given Marti and Nourry's connections. With that being said I do think we have missed a trick with Langstaff, if we were not even in for him. Absolutely. I'm not saying he is THE answer to all our prayers, all I'm saying is for that kind of money he is well worth a gamble. His record speaks for itself lower leagues or not. No one surely could tell me that guy will not score 10 goals next season. But, yes let's wait to see what the club pull out as we all know what we need. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 8, 2024 16:28:34 GMT
If only you could buy players based on hindsight😁 As it stands, as of today, Langstaff is a good buy. You can only base that decision on his record so far and it stacks up. When we bought the Postman he didn’t he had been more of a flash in the pan so riskier.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jul 8, 2024 16:44:21 GMT
If only you could buy players based on hindsight😁 As it stands, as of today, Langstaff is a good buy. You can only base that decision on his record so far and it stacks up. When we bought the Postman he didn’t he had been more of a flash in the pan so riskier. The way I see it Al is you can only score against what's in front of you and this fella doesn't seem to have any problems doing that. Again, I'm basing all my posts on the fact that he only has to beat 3 strikers who delivered a fucking paltry 10 goals in a season. I guarantee no one will take that bet. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jul 8, 2024 19:13:10 GMT
He could score more than our three strikers combined and still be in single figures, so on that basis I'm certainly not going to bet against you! That said, every window there are scores of players where fans say "I wish we got him". Let’s reserve judgement until the close of the window. Am not defending the club's record on strikers - which has been abysmal - but we don't know yet what budgets and other targets we have. Think the new regime has earned the right to be judged at the end of the process, not near its beginning. I'd also imagine we'd be looking more in the continental market than the domestic one, given Marti and Nourry's connections. With that being said I do think we have missed a trick with Langstaff, if we were not even in for him. Very much agree re the Continental market - this couldn’t be more different than the Ainsworth transfer window last summer (not knocking that window entirely btw: Cook and Coleback probably two big reasons for our survival). Rightly or wrongly our current regime is not fishing in the lower league pond. They will be looking for very technical young players and if the players we have signed and been linked with are any guide it’s going to be some young reserve striker from a big Continental European club or maybe a young Prem striker on loan. They are not even in principle looking for the next Charlie Austin, they are looking for the next Thierry Henry. Looking and finding obviously two very different things. |
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 8, 2024 21:06:22 GMT
I'd also imagine we'd be looking more in the continental market than the domestic one, given Marti and Nourry's connections. With that being said I do think we have missed a trick with Langstaff, if we were not even in for him. Very much agree re the Continental market - this couldn’t be more different than the Ainsworth transfer window last summer (not knocking that window entirely btw: Cook and Coleback probably two big reasons for our survival). Rightly or wrongly our current regime is not fishing in the lower league pond. They will be looking for very technical young players and if the players we have signed and been linked with are any guide it’s going to be some young reserve striker from a big Continental European club or maybe a young Prem striker on loan. They are not even in principle looking for the next Charlie Austin, they are looking for the next Thierry Henry. Looking and finding obviously two very different things. Not really someone to admire. OldR said he was shit, overrated and hated by the French, iirc. And he was always right. 🤣 |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 8, 2024 21:34:33 GMT
Very much agree re the Continental market - this couldn’t be more different than the Ainsworth transfer window last summer (not knocking that window entirely btw: Cook and Coleback probably two big reasons for our survival). Rightly or wrongly our current regime is not fishing in the lower league pond. They will be looking for very technical young players and if the players we have signed and been linked with are any guide it’s going to be some young reserve striker from a big Continental European club or maybe a young Prem striker on loan. They are not even in principle looking for the next Charlie Austin, they are looking for the next Thierry Henry. Looking and finding obviously two very different things. Not really someone to admire. OldR said he was shit, overrated and hated by the French, iirc. And he was always right. 🤣 ...and worse of all... he wasn't white! |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jul 8, 2024 21:46:36 GMT
Not really someone to admire. OldR said he was shit, overrated and hated by the French, iirc. And he was always right. 🤣 ...and worse of all... he wasn't white! they wouldn’t like him in Loft For Words then - full of posters who make the French National Front sound like Diane Abbott |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 9, 2024 6:20:49 GMT
Very much agree re the Continental market - this couldn’t be more different than the Ainsworth transfer window last summer (not knocking that window entirely btw: Cook and Coleback probably two big reasons for our survival). Rightly or wrongly our current regime is not fishing in the lower league pond. They will be looking for very technical young players and if the players we have signed and been linked with are any guide it’s going to be some young reserve striker from a big Continental European club or maybe a young Prem striker on loan. They are not even in principle looking for the next Charlie Austin, they are looking for the next Thierry Henry. Looking and finding obviously two very different things. Not really someone to admire. OldR said he was shit, overrated and hated by the French, iirc. And he was always right. 🤣 yes recall that. Was a heads gone moment 😂😂 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 7:53:16 GMT
We should be / are looking for improvements to the team not trawling the lower leagues in the hope of a long shot gamble paying off. Kelman was supposed to be the best natural scorer and look where he got to.
Why we just signed him for another year only to loan him out for the season is a mystery. Maybe we are making a profit on a loan fee. More likely we have a recall clause for January in case we hit injury problems .
Meanwhile not expecting any movements before the squad get back from Spain. (unless someone offers 30 million for the injured Dykes who is at home)
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Post by awin on Jul 9, 2024 11:24:45 GMT
We should be / are looking for improvements to the team not trawling the lower leagues in the hope of a long shot gamble paying off. Kelman was supposed to be the best natural scorer and look where he got to. Why we just signed him for another year only to loan him out for the season is a mystery. Maybe we are making a profit on a loan fee. More likely we have a recall clause for January in case we hit injury problems . Meanwhile not expecting any movements before the squad get back from Spain. (unless someone offers 30 million for the injured Dykes who is at home) It was to a amortise his transfer fee to sign Anderson as I understand. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jul 9, 2024 12:08:00 GMT
We should be / are looking for improvements to the team not trawling the lower leagues in the hope of a long shot gamble paying off. Kelman was supposed to be the best natural scorer and look where he got to. Why we just signed him for another year only to loan him out for the season is a mystery. Maybe we are making a profit on a loan fee. More likely we have a recall clause for January in case we hit injury problems . Meanwhile not expecting any movements before the squad get back from Spain. (unless someone offers 30 million for the injured Dykes who is at home) It was to a amortise his transfer fee to sign Anderson as I understand. Interesting insight Awin. Highlights the absurdity of FFP if it effectively rewards you for spending more money in cases such as this. I guess the same would apply to extending Willock and any other players we paid a fee for. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 9, 2024 12:31:19 GMT
Not really - yes a handful of players get picked up cheap and turn out to be good but all unknown gambles at the start. Eze ?. Proven strikers cost money. Yes, really. Take a look at the extensive list of strikers our competitors picked up for less than we paid for Dykes. It's somewhere on this board, I'm sure Stan can provide a link. As for Eze plenty of us knew he was a player when he was deemed surplus here and sent to cool his arse down the docks. We should be / are looking for improvements to the team not trawling the lower leagues in the hope of a long shot gamble paying off. Kelman was supposed to be the best natural scorer and look where he got to. Not digging you out here but we absolutely should be looking everywhere ( as Stan's list proves, albeit from a couple of seasons ago). Kelman was Les' boy and therefore just another example of what happens when you leave business to people like Les and Belk. Hopefully those days are over. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 12:49:40 GMT
Yes, really. Take a look at the extensive list of strikers our competitors picked up for less than we paid for Dykes. It's somewhere on this board, I'm sure Stan can provide a link. As for Eze plenty of us knew he was a player when he was deemed surplus here and sent to cool his arse down the docks. We should be / are looking for improvements to the team not trawling the lower leagues in the hope of a long shot gamble paying off. Kelman was supposed to be the best natural scorer and look where he got to. Not digging you out here but we absolutely should be looking everywhere ( as Stan's list proves, albeit from a couple of seasons ago). Kelman was Les' boy and therefore just another example of what happens when you leave business to people like Les and Belk. Hopefully those days are over. Thanks but I don't think I need digging out. I have looked at Stan's list and followed each of the players named before and after their quoted moves. In all honesty there are few that I would regard as having made any decent impact, the man from Coventry being the only stand out and those that have gone on have taken seasons to get there. Our need is immediate for someone who can hit the ground running not be readying a couple of seasons time. We are signing some good ones at the development squad age and I do expect one or two will make the breakthrough this season. Meanwhile while Stan has a list of 10 examples I could probably produce a list of hundreds taken on who have flopped , including some of our own. Of course we should be looking everywhere but to sign an championship experienced proven goal scorer is expensive so we are more likely to find what we need abroad. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 9, 2024 13:39:29 GMT
Not digging you out here but we absolutely should be looking everywhere ( as Stan's list proves, albeit from a couple of seasons ago). Kelman was Les' boy and therefore just another example of what happens when you leave business to people like Les and Belk. Hopefully those days are over. Thanks but I don't think I need digging out. I have looked at Stan's list and followed each of the players named before and after their quoted moves. In all honesty there are few that I would regard as having made any decent impact, the man from Coventry being the only stand out and those that have gone on have taken seasons to get there. Our need is immediate for someone who can hit the ground running not be readying a couple of seasons time. We are signing some good ones at the development squad age and I do expect one or two will make the breakthrough this season. Meanwhile while Stan has a list of 10 examples I could probably produce a list of hundreds taken on who have flopped , including some of our own. Of course we should be looking everywhere but to sign an championship experienced proven goal scorer is expensive so we are more likely to find what we need abroad. I think thats being a bit harsh. The point here is that if you are using your data properly and you have a functional scouting system it massively improves your chances of finding someone who can do a job. Until Nourry came into the frame (ie prior to his appointment as CEO) we simply weren't doing that in any meaningful way. You also did appear to be dismissing the idea of trawling down the tier in your previous post, plus 'abroad' doesn't necessarily mean value. Those days have largely gone, although as I think we agree, everywhere means leaving no stone unturned. |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 9, 2024 13:47:15 GMT
point there absolutely is a £1m striker out there who could score 20+ goals in a season for us. it's up to nourry and marti to find them which is easier said than done but if other teams can do it then why not us?
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 9, 2024 14:00:54 GMT
point there absolutely is a £1m striker out there who could score 20+ goals in a season for us. it's up to nourry and marti to find them which is easier said than done but if other teams can do it then why not us? We don’t even need a 20 goal a season striker that’s why it’s been so frustrating. Just someone who can make an impact on the game and get into double figures regularly. Having a decent striker is so important. Centre halves knew they were getting an easy ride off of our forwards last couple of years which means they don’t occupy two defenders and also means it’s harder for other players to get space and time. Just a couple of competent mobile strikers in the squad and even last year that’s a totally different team |
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Post by hubble on Jul 9, 2024 14:10:08 GMT
...and worse of all... he wasn't white! they wouldn’t like him in Loft For Words then - full of posters who make the French National Front sound like Diane Abbott
Do you post as plain 'Stainrod' on there?
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Post by Shania on Jul 9, 2024 16:30:15 GMT
I believe Les Ferdinand was scouting in Colombia at some point, but I`m not sure what came out of it?
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Post by 1qprdk on Jul 9, 2024 18:28:24 GMT
I believe Les Ferdinand was scouting in Colombia at some point, but I`m not sure what came out of it? Cheap blow and pussy? |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jul 9, 2024 18:29:15 GMT
Can’t wait for the next posts……..
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jul 16, 2024 20:07:17 GMT
Viljami Sinisalo as our next goalkeeper. Joins Celtic. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 20, 2024 8:51:38 GMT
Def need 1 more striker please someone with pace and dykes to go. 3 different options up top plus room for kolli/other youth players to play. Saw tyrese Campbell linked. Always impressed me when I’ve seen him, out of contract. Not loads of goals but can be an absolute menace with pace to burn |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jul 20, 2024 9:03:21 GMT
someone with pace and dykes to go. 3 different options up top plus room for kolli/other youth players to play. Saw tyrese Campbell linked. Always impressed me when I’ve seen him, out of contract. Not loads of goals but can be an absolute menace with pace to burn Obvs what do I know but just doesn’t seem the kind of signing we are making now. Every one has been left field and from abroad. This rumour sounds to me more like an agent drumming up interest. The striker who does interest me is the lad at the French club on loan at Sheffield Wed last season. But as i’ve said elsewhere given Celars ability to play tonnes of games don’t know how much of a priority another striker is now (can’t have typed that sentence since the days of Lois Remy!). If I had to choose one for in-coming i’d probably go hayden or varane for holding midfield |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 20, 2024 9:22:51 GMT
someone with pace and dykes to go. 3 different options up top plus room for kolli/other youth players to play. Saw tyrese Campbell linked. Always impressed me when I’ve seen him, out of contract. Not loads of goals but can be an absolute menace with pace to burn sounds like Armstrong He looked good at ours few seasons back |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jul 20, 2024 10:04:33 GMT
Saw tyrese Campbell linked. Always impressed me when I’ve seen him, out of contract. Not loads of goals but can be an absolute menace with pace to burn Obvs what do I know but just doesn’t seem the kind of signing we are making now. Every one has been left field and from abroad. This rumour sounds to me more like an agent drumming up interest. The striker who does interest me is the lad at the French club on loan at Sheffield Wed last season. But as i’ve said elsewhere given Celars ability to play tonnes of games don’t know how much of a priority another striker is now (can’t have typed that sentence since the days of Lois Remy!). If I had to choose one for in-coming i’d probably go hayden or varane for holding midfield Yeah agree. I’d actually totally forgotten about Frey who looks well up for it this year. Actually think a winger with some pace and quality is more of a priority now. That and a box to box midfielder and think we’re good to go. Maybe another dm but all depends how he wants to play. That suggestion was based on dykes going but as others have said I wouldn’t mind betting Marti quite likes him |
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Post by Shania on Aug 6, 2024 13:10:50 GMT
Liam Miller impressed me when we were playing against PNE. He is a winger and an attacking midfielder. Only 24 years old also. I`m not sure he features in FC Basel`s plans anymore.
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Post by Bill on Aug 6, 2024 14:46:34 GMT
Brandon Williams LB released by MU.
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Post by awin on Aug 6, 2024 15:02:58 GMT
Brandon Williams LB released by MU. Good shout! |
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Post by West Acton on Aug 6, 2024 16:23:49 GMT
Was he not on loan at Norwich? If it’s him I was impressed with him
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Post by jfrabbit on Aug 7, 2024 6:20:10 GMT
I actually thought he was poor every time I've seen him.
Interesting how we all see different things in different players.
He played against us when we walloped them in pre season and he was dog shit.
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