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Post by The General on Jun 2, 2022 14:09:53 GMT
Absolutely agree, 10-15 games minimum before judgment should be made. No offence, but that's what fans always say pre-season. Am sure you will stick to it, but a lot won't. Remember that first year we were promoted back to the top flight and everyone was saying "we know we will have bad days, we just have to be patient." Then I remember sitting there on a scorching day and think we were beaten 5-0 at home to Swansea - not even one of the "good" teams - and people were baying for blood, the goalkeeper's career was basically finished with us there and then, etc. We all know patience is required - the test is whether in reality patience will be shown. We lose the first game 3-0 and already some fans will be saying the board is clueless, we got the wrong Beale, we would be better off with an EastEnders actor or have some pikey like GT managing us than Beale etc, etc...You can see it already. No offence but ive never said this before Is he any good no one actually knows |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jun 2, 2022 15:23:36 GMT
No offence, but that's what fans always say pre-season. Am sure you will stick to it, but a lot won't. Remember that first year we were promoted back to the top flight and everyone was saying "we know we will have bad days, we just have to be patient." Then I remember sitting there on a scorching day and think we were beaten 5-0 at home to Swansea - not even one of the "good" teams - and people were baying for blood, the goalkeeper's career was basically finished with us there and then, etc. We all know patience is required - the test is whether in reality patience will be shown. We lose the first game 3-0 and already some fans will be saying the board is clueless, we got the wrong Beale, we would be better off with an EastEnders actor or have some pikey like GT managing us than Beale etc, etc...You can see it already. No offence but ive never said this before Is he any good no one actually knows Was responding to Ginga's comment, General. My point was as fans we mostly probably agree he will need time. But come 4.40 if we have lost badly first game of the season there will be some - pointing no fingers - who will already be on his back. Bound to be more extreme with a manager with no managerial experience. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jun 2, 2022 15:47:22 GMT
All this talk of giving him a certain amount of games before passing judgement is pointless if he isn’t backed in the transfer market.
It seems patently clear from his interview that he’s been given the impression he’ll make the calls when it comes to team selection and will be given the funds to at least make a go of building a half decent team.
If that turns out not to be the case and he’s not given a few million million to spend on what now looks to be a very weak squad then it’s a complete waste of his time and the clubs money.
He may or may not have the attributes to be a top manager but without backing he’ll never get the chance to prove it with us and writing him off after even 20 games would be wrong.
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Post by The General on Jun 2, 2022 16:13:17 GMT
No offence but ive never said this before Is he any good no one actually knows Was responding to Ginga's comment, General. My point was as fans we mostly probably agree he will need time. But come 4.40 if we have lost badly first game of the season there will be some - pointing no fingers - who will already be on his back. Bound to be more extreme with a manager with no managerial experience. Agree with this but it will need at least 10-15 games before we can make an assessment I’m actually used to being totally let down by the club for so many years so it prob won’t affect me too much if he’s not a good choice As I have now adjusted my expectation for the club for the future , it took 5 desperados and 3 jazz mags but I’m happy now atm I’m surprised the owners are so content with being in the championship though tbh ,as I said previously that mine Hits Dk Stan etc ambition for the club exceeds theirs and we cannot be the club we once were anymore so we need to get used to how it is now A mid table family championship club with a crap ground but great loyal supporters I have now toned down my ambition for the club to suit the level of Les and the board and I’m a much calmer person 😂😂 |
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Post by 2Loftus on Jun 2, 2022 16:52:17 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 2, 2022 17:07:30 GMT
"No manager approached turned us down." says Hoos. Andy Belk was part of the manager recruitment process. Using the recruitment dept for the first time in that role, he says. Those are the noteworthy take outs for me. |
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Post by Corbray on Jun 2, 2022 17:16:18 GMT
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Post by jfrabbit on Jun 3, 2022 11:41:55 GMT
Any talk of back room staff yet or if he’s retaining any of Warburtons lot?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 3, 2022 11:48:30 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 3, 2022 12:00:50 GMT
Any talk of back room staff yet or if he’s retaining any of Warburtons lot? You'd imagine Eustace will be on his bike given he's been overlooked for the Manager's job. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a complete clear out. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 3, 2022 12:06:10 GMT
Any talk of back room staff yet or if he’s retaining any of Warburtons lot? You'd imagine Eustace will be on his bike given he's been overlooked for the Manager's job. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a complete clear out. Wycombe still thinks Eustace is getting job 😁 |
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Post by jfrabbit on Jun 3, 2022 13:49:13 GMT
Any talk of back room staff yet or if he’s retaining any of Warburtons lot? You'd imagine Eustace will be on his bike given he's been overlooked for the Manager's job. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a complete clear out. i hope he is mate. Unpopular opinion I know but when a management TEAM are playing a striker who gives fuck all effort, a midfielder who was clearly shit for us, starting games with 0 strikers on the pitch and 2 on the bench then I’m sorry to say they can do one as far as I’m concerned. It was a joint enterprise. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jun 3, 2022 14:00:11 GMT
You'd imagine Eustace will be on his bike given he's been overlooked for the Manager's job. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a complete clear out. i hope he is mate. Unpopular opinion I know but when a management TEAM are playing a striker who gives fuck all effort, a midfielder who was clearly shit for us, starting games with 0 strikers on the pitch and 2 on the bench then I’m sorry to say they can do one as far as I’m concerned. It was a joint enterprise. Absolutely 100% |
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 3, 2022 14:05:12 GMT
You'd imagine Eustace will be on his bike given he's been overlooked for the Manager's job. Wouldn't be surprised if we have a complete clear out. Wycombe still thinks Eustace is getting job 😁 but glad he didn’t for reasons above |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 3, 2022 16:58:33 GMT
Forest's Steve Cooper went into management at Swansea from coaching....turned out ok
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Post by jfrabbit on Jun 3, 2022 20:48:44 GMT
So did Paul Clement. Not so good 😅
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 3, 2022 22:46:36 GMT
Forest's Steve Cooper went into management at Swansea from coaching....turned out ok Only problem with this little factoid is that it isn't true. Cooper spent 5 years managing England youth sides before stepping directly into club management with Swansea. |
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Post by Bill on Jun 3, 2022 22:57:00 GMT
All this talk of giving him a certain amount of games before passing judgement is pointless if he isn’t backed in the transfer market. It seems patently clear from his interview that he’s been given the impression he’ll make the calls when it comes to team selection and will be given the funds to at least make a go of building a half decent team. If that turns out not to be the case and he’s not given a few million million to spend on what now looks to be a very weak squad then it’s a complete waste of his time and the clubs money. He may or may not have the attributes to be a top manager but without backing he’ll never get the chance to prove it with us and writing him off after even 20 games would be wrong. Well if he can't with a few million million there is no hope for us😁 |
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Post by acricketer on Jun 3, 2022 23:04:34 GMT
The guy has made a big mistake. We are a struggling Billy Big Boots. As soon as we lose he will be villified. He should resign now while his reputation is redeemable
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Post by hal9thou on Jun 4, 2022 11:35:01 GMT
I just want to see us do the basics right for starters. I want to see them fit, committed, with a few decent set pieces and everyone knowing who they're supposed to cover for.
And I think that's more likely to happen.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 4, 2022 12:56:51 GMT
The guy has made a big mistake. We are a struggling Billy Big Boots. As soon as we lose he will be villified. |
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Post by The General on Jun 5, 2022 10:39:09 GMT
Apparantly Mr Beale is employing a defence coach and a set piece specialist
Right up my street this is have to say that go Beale
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Post by alanwycombe on Jun 5, 2022 11:18:11 GMT
Just a proper fitness coach to go then.
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Post by The General on Jun 5, 2022 12:21:02 GMT
Think the players have a shock coming
His teams are fit as fark
Would love a proper terrier in midfield captain
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Post by sparks on Jun 24, 2022 11:26:42 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 25, 2022 9:10:55 GMT
Interesting key take outs- His main reasons for picking QPR were our squad, its key players that excite him, and being impressed with the owners and their enthusiasm
- In bottom 20-30% transfer budget of teams in division, so accepting and willing to work within that restriction
- Philippe Coutinho would be his fantasy signing
- Rest on the Paal thread
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Post by 1qprdk on Jun 25, 2022 9:40:59 GMT
Interesting key take outsHis main reasons for picking QPR were: - Our squad and its key players that excite him
- Very impressed with our owners and their enthusiasm
- In bottom 20-30% transfer budget of teams in division, so accepting and willing to work within that restriction
- Philippe Coutinho would be his fantasy signing
- Rest on the Paal thread
I find it hard not to get excited about the upcoming season, when I hear him speak. Looking forward to see what will happen to players performances. Hoping not to get disappointed. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 28, 2022 21:03:01 GMT
Neil Critchley, Brendan Rogers and Steve Cooper all stepped up from being coaches to successful managers, for those more scornful responses.
For every McClaren, Ramsey and Clement there's one of the above.
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Post by acricketer on Jun 28, 2022 21:42:22 GMT
In bottom 20-30% transfer budget of teams in division is what I'm focusing on.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 28, 2022 22:57:51 GMT
And yet he's turned other clubs down to pick this one...
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