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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 7:00:47 GMT
And if the club forced him to come out with that bollocks? Then a) the club are fucking idiots, and b) Beale isn't just a scumbag, he's a spineless one for doing it if he's been "forced" and not telling the club to piss off. Real life doesn't work like that. Regardless, it's an open secret that Beale was lied to in his interview about funding which is why he applied for the Wolves job. Rather than acting like a pimply teen dumped on Prom Night because you (people, not you) got hurty feelings because he walked maybe shift anger to the board who, for the most part, are still at the club.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 3, 2023 7:12:45 GMT
He’s last year’s fashion, move on for love of god,
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 3, 2023 8:26:45 GMT
Am I the only one here who has nothing against Beale? He made it clear beforehand that would leave us if Glasgow Rangers came after him. Doesn't matter. You don't preach about loyalty and then go back on that a week later. Don't care what was made clear or not. I bet Rangers opportunity came surprisingly early after Wolves saga. He can't say publicly that I turned down Wolves, but will go to Rangers if they will ask. After all he had no decision-making power over Rangers' schedules.
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 3, 2023 8:39:41 GMT
Just went up there schmoozing when their manager was under pressure. Nice.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 3, 2023 9:18:43 GMT
Then a) the club are fucking idiots, and b) Beale isn't just a scumbag, he's a spineless one for doing it if he's been "forced" and not telling the club to piss off. Real life doesn't work like that. Regardless, it's an open secret that Beale was lied to in his interview about funding which is why he applied for the Wolves job. Rather than acting like a pimply teen dumped on Prom Night because you (people, not you) got hurty feelings because he walked maybe shift anger to the board who, for the most part, are still at the club. Life doesn't work like that, yet you think the club would "force him to come out with that bollocks"? People have the right to be pissed off with Beale, whether you agree with it or not. The pimply teen comment is funny but ironic, given how butt hurt you seem to be at the fact that people dislike Beale. You seem to be comoletely ok with how he treated not just the club, but Van Bronckhorst too, and that's your lookout.
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Post by Shania on Oct 3, 2023 9:25:20 GMT
He’s last year’s fashion, move on for love of god, This.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2023 9:28:13 GMT
He’s last year’s fashion, move on for love of god, This. Or just ignore the thread and leave others to hash it out if they wish?
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Post by kiblobsworth on Oct 3, 2023 9:30:23 GMT
Michael Who?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 3, 2023 10:11:46 GMT
Or just ignore the thread and leave others to hash it out if they wish? This.
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Post by hubble on Oct 3, 2023 12:11:44 GMT
Or just ignore the thread and leave others to hash it out if they wish? This. That.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 3, 2023 12:18:02 GMT
I've moved on. Forgotten about him. But I still think he's a cunt. And am happy to say so.
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 3, 2023 12:52:54 GMT
I've NEARLY moved on, but otherwise similar sentiments as Rangers77.
Not my best quality, but I can bear a grudge... I mean, who can forget Dean 'Sicknote' Sturridge - huge transfer fee, massive wages and about 10 appearances (inc subs) in two years...
I'm not bitter...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 14:34:57 GMT
Real life doesn't work like that. Regardless, it's an open secret that Beale was lied to in his interview about funding which is why he applied for the Wolves job. Rather than acting like a pimply teen dumped on Prom Night because you (people, not you) got hurty feelings because he walked maybe shift anger to the board who, for the most part, are still at the club. Life doesn't work like that, yet you think the club would "force him to come out with that bollocks"? People have the right to be pissed off with Beale, whether you agree with it or not. The pimply teen comment is funny but ironic, given how butt hurt you seem to be at the fact that people dislike Beale. You seem to be comoletely ok with how he treated not just the club, but Van Bronckhorst too, and that's your lookout. It happens so often that managers - in all walks of life - are sourced prior to the current incumbent being relieved of their duties that it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone over a certain age. There's also the possibility that athe club promised to back him after the Wolves incident which is why he followed their instructions on the 'loyalty' speech but then the Rangers job offer came. For someone who people belive to be a liar he was always up front with everyone that if the Ibox job was offered he'd be off. Finally, I'm not 'butt hurt' that people are still hating the man. That, of course, is their perogative. But its a message board and differing opinions will be offered. Mine is that if you put so much effort into hating a man just because he left your football team that you've either a perfect life away from Loftus Road or QPR plays too prominent a role in your life. Personally I can't see the middle ground.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 15:30:12 GMT
OldR is your dislike of Ainsworth not akin to others of Beale? What’s the difference?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 15:47:50 GMT
OldR is your dislike of Ainsworth not akin to others of Beale? What’s the difference? Fair question. I don't think the two can be compared For one, Ainsworth is the current incumbent of the QPR managerial role and, naturally, opinions on how he is performing will form. On the other hand, Michael Beale left QPR 11 months ago. Although it would, in my opinion, be normal to form opinions about his departure in the immediate aftermath it seems, to me, questionable that after such a period of time grown adults still feel hurt that a man who said he would always take the Rangers job did what he told us he would do. The latter, to me, does not seem normal or healthy.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 16:05:11 GMT
There is an argument Beales exit and how he went about it started the decline of which we remain in the slump.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2023 16:19:10 GMT
There is an argument Beales exit and how he went about it started the decline of which we remain in the slump. The decline began 12 years ago in January 2012 when Fernandes instructed Beard to sack the last good manager we had in Neil Warnock. Others will argue it was Warburton but for me he wasn't in the same league as Warnock.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 17:07:42 GMT
There is an argument Beales exit and how he went about it started the decline of which we remain in the slump. The decline began 12 years ago in January 2012 when Fernandes instructed Beard to sack the last good manager we had in Neil Warnock. Other will argue it was Warburton but for me he wasn't in the same league as Warnock. fair point when looking at the overall picture but in those 12years there were short periods of hope/joy
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Post by 1qprdk on Oct 3, 2023 17:28:54 GMT
Life doesn't work like that, yet you think the club would "force him to come out with that bollocks"? People have the right to be pissed off with Beale, whether you agree with it or not. The pimply teen comment is funny but ironic, given how butt hurt you seem to be at the fact that people dislike Beale. You seem to be comoletely ok with how he treated not just the club, but Van Bronckhorst too, and that's your lookout. It happens so often that managers - in all walks of life - are sourced prior to the current incumbent being relieved of their duties that it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone over a certain age. There's also the possibility that athe club promised to back him after the Wolves incident which is why he followed their instructions on the 'loyalty' speech but then the Rangers job offer came. For someone who people belive to be a liar he was always up front with everyone that if the Ibox job was offered he'd be off. Finally, I'm not 'butt hurt' that people are still hating the man. That, of course, is their perogative. But its a message board and differing opinions will be offered. Mine is that if you put so much effort into hating a man just because he left your football team that you've either a perfect life away from Loftus Road or QPR plays too prominent a role in your life. Personally I can't see the middle ground. You can make up all the crazy conspiracy theories you want to make that creep look good, but the most likely scenario is that the man is just a fat lying cunt.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2023 17:32:40 GMT
The decline began 12 years ago in January 2012 when Fernandes instructed Beard to sack the last good manager we had in Neil Warnock. Others will argue it was Warburton but for me he wasn't in the same league as Warnock. fair point when looking at the overall picture but in those 12years there were short periods of hope/joy Very true, but if you were to plot those 12 years on a chart sadly the overall trajectory is a downward one, not just in league position but the club's fortunes in general
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Post by 2Loftus on Oct 3, 2023 18:14:03 GMT
OldR is your dislike of Ainsworth not akin to others of Beale? What’s the difference? Fair question. I don't think the two can be compared. For one, Ainsworth is the current incumbent of the QPR managerial role and, naturally, opinions on how he is performing will form. On the other hand, Michael Beale left QPR 11 months ago. Although it would, in my opinion, be normal to form opinions about his departure in the immediate aftermath it seems, to me, questionable that after such a period of time grown adults still feel hurt that a man who said he would always take the Rangers job did what he told us he would do. The latter, to me, does not seem normal or healthy.Normal? Yes. Healthy? Perhaps not.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 3, 2023 18:52:27 GMT
fair point when looking at the overall picture but in those 12years there were short periods of hope/joy Very true, but if you were to plot those 12 years on a chart sadly the overall trajectory is a downward one, not just in league position but the club's fortunes in general and a genuine laughing stock for other fans too lol. failed prem consolidations, odemwingie, hundreds of millions wasted, losing warren farm to a man and his dog, mercenary players, the eel, last seasons form etc just off the top of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 19:49:39 GMT
It happens so often that managers - in all walks of life - are sourced prior to the current incumbent being relieved of their duties that it shouldn't come as a shock to anyone over a certain age. There's also the possibility that athe club promised to back him after the Wolves incident which is why he followed their instructions on the 'loyalty' speech but then the Rangers job offer came. For someone who people belive to be a liar he was always up front with everyone that if the Ibox job was offered he'd be off. Finally, I'm not 'butt hurt' that people are still hating the man. That, of course, is their perogative. But its a message board and differing opinions will be offered. Mine is that if you put so much effort into hating a man just because he left your football team that you've either a perfect life away from Loftus Road or QPR plays too prominent a role in your life. Personally I can't see the middle ground. You can make up all the crazy conspiracy theories you want to make that creep look good, but the most likely scenario is that the man is just a fat lying cunt. Beale: I would always have to consider the offer of the main job at Ibrox. 3 months later... Beale: I'm leaving to take the job which I've always wanted and which I have never denied wanting and have always said I'd probably take..... No, definitely his fault and not the fault of grown adults who probably love QPR a little bit too much...
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 19:58:48 GMT
Also Mick Beale Quote and final part absolutely sinks him weather he wanted Rangers job or not. He’s a prize snide bullshitting cunt simples
“Integrity is a real big thing for me and loyalty. You don’t give it to receive it back, but if those are the things you live by then at times when you are put in a position you have to be strong by them.
“I don’t think we are anywhere near where I want QPR to be as a group. I’m enjoying working with them, we’ve got a lot to do, but I’m excited by it.
“There’s going to be some bumps in the road, but I’ve been all in here and I’ve asked other people to be all in.
“So I can’t be the first person to run away from he ship.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 20:06:13 GMT
Also Mick Beale Quote and final part absolutely sinks him weather he wanted Rangers job or not. He’s a prize snide bullshitting cunt simples “Integrity is a real big thing for me and loyalty. You don’t give it to receive it back, but if those are the things you live by then at times when you are put in a position you have to be strong by them. “I don’t think we are anywhere near where I want QPR to be as a group. I’m enjoying working with them, we’ve got a lot to do, but I’m excited by it. “There’s going to be some bumps in the road, but I’ve been all in here and I’ve asked other people to be all in. “So I can’t be the first person to run away from he ship.” He left for a job he always told us he'd leave us for. The loyalty statement was a load of bollocks to placate fans and without the foresight that Rangers would be knocking on the door within weeks. He should never have made the statement- that's a fair point although it was the idea of the board by all accounts - but at the end of the day it's a job to him and most players who pull on the shirt. There's lessons here for everyone. The board should not be stupid enough to sign off statements which could backfire and bite them on the arse. Some fans need to re-consider the role QPR plays in their life if a manager leaving - regardless of statements previously made - leaves them angry for 11 months.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 3, 2023 20:07:59 GMT
Are you Beale in disguise?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 20:13:31 GMT
Are you Beale in disguise? Yes, rather than spend the £3m compensation from Rangers on a nice holiday I've decided to come on here 👍
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 20:13:48 GMT
But he did say it more fool him. If he had not gone all in on the I’m loyal, I’ve got integrity he could probably have gone for his dream job without the fallout but he let his mouth run giving it the big one bigging himself up making himself the story.
The club don’t sign off what he says the guy just talks pure bullshit! he’s smart though as he knows what people want to hear and feeds them and Some fans fell for it.
Look at all the quotes from rangers fans calling him all talk no substance. They never nicknamed him the con man for nothing.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2023 20:19:53 GMT
Also Mick Beale Quote and final part absolutely sinks him weather he wanted Rangers job or not. He’s a prize snide bullshitting cunt simples “Integrity is a real big thing for me and loyalty. You don’t give it to receive it back, but if those are the things you live by then at times when you are put in a position you have to be strong by them. “I don’t think we are anywhere near where I want QPR to be as a group. I’m enjoying working with them, we’ve got a lot to do, but I’m excited by it. “There’s going to be some bumps in the road, but I’ve been all in here and I’ve asked other people to be all in. “So I can’t be the first person to run away from he ship.” He left for a job he always told us he'd leave us for. Some fans need to re-consider the role QPR plays in their life if a manager leaving - regardless of statements previously made - leaves them angry for 11 months. You need take your own advice OldR if you still feel the need to engage in a debate with fans about a manager who fucked your club over 11 months ago. You like him, which is your right, plenty others think he’s a charlatan and it’s their right to express that as long as they want too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 20:20:27 GMT
But he did say it more fool him. If he had not gone all in on the I’m loyal, I’ve got integrity he could probably have gone for his dream job without the fallout but he let his mouth run giving it the big one bigging himself up making himself the story. The club don’t sign off what he says the guy just talks pure bullshit! he’s smart though as he knows what people want to hear and feeds them and Some fans fell for it. Look at all the quotes from rangers fans calling him all talk no substance. They never nicknamed him the con man for nothing. He is a bullshitter, a very good one who is now an incredibly wealthy man for his ability to talk himself into the Rangers job despite being short of about a decade's worth of experience from being ready for it. No one will disagree with that. The 'loyalty' statement was on official club media and 100% signed off by the board.
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