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Post by The General on Dec 19, 2023 14:24:30 GMT
We are still in the bottom 3 remember
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 19, 2023 14:34:17 GMT
Wont be here much longer So be careful what you wish for I would be willing to sell him and re-invest in a decent striker And Marti can hopefully get Willock firing more consistently because he is the club's best player, when on form, not Chair. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 14:36:39 GMT
Wont be here much longer So be careful what you wish for I would be willing to sell him and re-invest in a decent striker And Marti can hopefully get Willock firing more consistently because he is the club's best player, when on form, not Chair. We need goals or we're going down. Chair is a luxury we can't afford at the moment. |
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Post by The General on Dec 19, 2023 15:01:58 GMT
He is the only luxury
Just waiting for Beale to make
A move for Willock and Chair now
To really piss me off
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Post by Bill on Dec 19, 2023 18:38:12 GMT
He is the only luxury Just waiting for Beale to make A move for Willock and Chair now To really piss me off Hopefully Dykes. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 19:09:52 GMT
He is the only luxury Just waiting for Beale to make A move for Willock and Chair now To really piss me off Hopefully Dykes. I honestly thought he'd take him to Rangers. He's a respected player in Scotland and would have been a success in my opinion. |
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Post by Bill on Dec 19, 2023 22:09:52 GMT
I honestly thought he'd take him to Rangers. He's a respected player in Scotland and would have been a success in my opinion. Sunderland near as you can get i guess |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 20, 2023 6:53:29 GMT
I would be willing to sell him and re-invest in a decent striker And Marti can hopefully get Willock firing more consistently because he is the club's best player, when on form, not Chair. We need goals or we're going down. Chair is a luxury we can't afford at the moment.Disagree. Without him we'd be royally stuffed. Yes he's greedy, yes he's frustrating but, most things go through him or Willock and the argument I've used before and stand by is, if I was a QPR midfielder who knows 9 out of my 10 balls / passes into the box are gonna be absolutely wasted I'd also want to shoot myself most of the time. Dykes and muscles are just not cutting the mustard up front. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 20, 2023 7:33:40 GMT
Agree Jimmy for as frustrating as he is in his absence there is no one else chapping at the bit to step in.
Sparks for seasons going forwards anyone in the youth who might be showing they could be an answer down the road?
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 20, 2023 8:27:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 8:34:39 GMT
We need goals or we're going down. Chair is a luxury we can't afford at the moment.Disagree. Without him we'd be royally stuffed. Yes he's greedy, yes he's frustrating but, most things go through him or Willock and the argument I've used before and stand by is, if I was a QPR midfielder who knows 9 out of my 10 balls / passes into the box are gonna be absolutely wasted I'd also want to shoot myself most of the time. Dykes and muscles are just not cutting the mustard up front. If we had better forwards than, absolutely, I would agree with the majority of what you say above. However, we need to improve the forward line as neither Dykes or Armstrong are good enough keep us up. Being our most high value player makes Chair a luxury if only for the failures of the 2 men ahead of him. Talk of £15-20m is ridiculous but if we could land £8-10m we can buy a couple of £3m strikers and a £3m man to replace him. I don't think many have truly grapsed how significant relegation will be for QPR this season. Its possibly the closest we have got to seeing the club sink and that's why Chair is a luxury we can't afford. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 20, 2023 8:55:34 GMT
Disagree. Without him we'd be royally stuffed. Yes he's greedy, yes he's frustrating but, most things go through him or Willock and the argument I've used before and stand by is, if I was a QPR midfielder who knows 9 out of my 10 balls / passes into the box are gonna be absolutely wasted I'd also want to shoot myself most of the time. Dykes and muscles are just not cutting the mustard up front. . Being our most high value player makes Chair a luxury if only for the failures of the 2 men ahead of him.1) If my auntie had bollox...... 2) We all know this. 3) Not his fault. Blame the club, owners & former DoF who've gone into this season so embarrassingly underprepared with regards to our forward options. My point still stands. He HAS to shoot more in the hope of a goal, deflection (as proved on Saturday) as the other 2 up front are shite & rarely get on the end of anything. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 20, 2023 9:06:50 GMT
Jimmy, I agree. But if we're offered £8-10m for him in January I would still take it and re-invest that into a better striker (or two) and/or an upgrade on Field/Dozzell/Colback. The reason being is that would be a net improvement to the squad. And as said, Marti can also hopefully get Willock firing more consistently because he is the club's best player when on form, not Chair (and he could hopefully persuade Willock to extend his contract with any luck. I know others disagree, but I would still not rule that out at this stage).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 9:14:47 GMT
If we had better forwards than, absolutely, I would agree with the majority of what you say above.However, we need to improve the forward line as neither Dykes or Armstrong are good enough keep us up. Being our most high value player makes Chair a luxury if only for the failures of the 2 men ahead of him. 1) If my auntie had bollox...... 2) We all know this. 3) Not his fault. Blame the club, owners & former DoF who've gone into this season so embarrassingly underprepared with regards to our forward options. My point still stands. He HAS to shoot more in the hope of a goal, deflection (as proved on Saturday) as the other 2 up front are shite & rarely get on the end of anything. You ignored the key part of my post about what relegation will cost us. Do you think Chair keeps us up alone without investment in this team? If no he has to go and it's as simple as that. |
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Post by West Acton on Dec 20, 2023 9:16:02 GMT
Can we actually improve squad as required with 8mil. What we need may two or three players?
Decent player probably £4/5mil anything less then that and you're possibly taking a punt like we did on Dykes hoping they come good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 9:30:12 GMT
Can we actually improve squad as required with 8mil. What we need may two or three players? Decent player probably £4/5mil anything less then that and you're possibly taking a punt like we did on Dykes hoping they come good. Can we stay up with £8m? I don't know is the honest answer but I do know we'd have a better chance than we have now. |
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Post by sparks on Dec 20, 2023 9:31:47 GMT
I wouldn’t want any kids from our U21s or loans being in our first team right now,Armstrong looks a shadow of the player that made his debut, his confidence looks shot and importantly his exuberance to put himself about has been knocked out of him.
To me it shows why it’s probably best to go out on loan to a team and group of fans that is not going to rip them to shreds for not being outstanding every min of every game right now.
If I were Chair I would be off like a shot if I could in Jan window.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 20, 2023 9:31:59 GMT
Can we actually improve squad as required with 8mil. 8-10mill. Arguably yes, if invested wisely. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 20, 2023 9:38:47 GMT
I certainly grasp what relegation would do to this club. Focus should be on staying up and not get involved in transfers of any of our players until the summer - not January when Marti will have just settled things down. All they should be doing in Jan is find us some goals. Kids, non-league, there must be something we can do. Vardy and Wrighty came from non-league so I bet they’re still out there somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 9:40:41 GMT
I certainly grasp what relegation would do to this club. Focus should be on staying up and not get involved in transfers of any of our players until the summer - not January when Marti will have just settled things down. All they should be doing in Jan is find us some goals. Kids, non-league, there must be something we can do. Vardy and Wrighty came from non-league so I bet they’re still out there somewhere. We haven't the scouting system in place anymore, sadly. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 20, 2023 9:44:34 GMT
I wouldn’t want any kids from our U21s or loans being in our first team right now,Armstrong looks a shadow of the player that made his debut, his confidence looks shot and importantly his exuberance to put himself about has been knocked out of him. To me it shows why it’s probably best to go out on loan to a team and group of fans that is not going to rip them to shreds for not being outstanding every min of every game right now. If I were Chair I would be off like a shot if I could in Jan window. Is it confidence Sparks, or is it that he just hasn’t got it to make the step up? As for putting himself about decent pro defenders know all about it. He roasted Wednesday defence twice. Third time they wacked him and he got subbed at half time. I really wanted this guy to tear it up but it’s not going to happen. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Dec 20, 2023 9:51:04 GMT
I wouldn’t want any kids from our U21s or loans being in our first team right now,Armstrong looks a shadow of the player that made his debut, his confidence looks shot and importantly his exuberance to put himself about has been knocked out of him. To me it shows why it’s probably best to go out on loan to a team and group of fans that is not going to rip them to shreds for not being outstanding every min of every game right now. If I were Chair I would be off like a shot if I could in Jan window. Tbf Armstrong can do no wrong in regards to the fans, no matetr what happens on the pitch the fans sing his name. Agree ref Chair. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 20, 2023 10:03:59 GMT
1) If my auntie had bollox...... 2) We all know this. 3) Not his fault. Blame the club, owners & former DoF who've gone into this season so embarrassingly underprepared with regards to our forward options. My point still stands. He HAS to shoot more in the hope of a goal, deflection (as proved on Saturday) as the other 2 up front are shite & rarely get on the end of anything. You ignored the key part of my post about what relegation will cost us. Do you think Chair keeps us up alone without investment in this team? If no he has to go and it's as simple as that. I didn't ignore it. It wasn't relevant to my original point of here & now being a luxury player when he's most certainly not and talk of potential £8m fees is all fantasy as it stands. No one came in for him previously and if they did it's a different debate. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Dec 20, 2023 10:07:10 GMT
Tbf the transfer market (fee wise) has fallen out of the Champ since Covid, as much as I do like Chair & think he would be class in a better side, not sure many would be stumping up £8m for him.
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Post by acricketer on Dec 20, 2023 15:12:05 GMT
We haven't the scouting system in place anymore, sadly. Luckily!  |
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Post by acricketer on Dec 20, 2023 15:16:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 15:26:28 GMT
€8m = £6.9m Someone is only worth what someone is willing to pay for them of course, but that shows how his reputation has taken a bit of a hit by staying with us. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 20, 2023 19:46:56 GMT
I would be willing to sell him and re-invest in a decent striker And Marti can hopefully get Willock firing more consistently because he is the club's best player, when on form, not Chair. We need goals or we're going down. Chair is a luxury we can't afford at the moment. respectfully, bollox |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Dec 20, 2023 19:52:52 GMT
love the massive contradiction - “chair is shit - sell - can we get 6 or 8 mıll?”
Dozzell - value?
Field - value?
Smyth - value
even Wllock - value?
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Post by 2Loftus on Dec 20, 2023 19:57:35 GMT
We need goals or we're going down. Chair is a luxury we can't afford at the moment.
respectfully, bollox Hmmmm, can those two words go together and maintain even the merest hint of sincerity…?  |
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