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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:20:40 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. You need to keep up |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Oct 20, 2022 8:24:06 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. Said that already son I know , but the old get ignored, I being the youth was spreading your message |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:27:31 GMT
I know , but the old get ignored, I being the youth was spreading your message This is very true we do get ignored. Youth not sure about that,Shania informed you couldn't manage things in her Citroen😄 |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 20, 2022 8:28:39 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. I just said exactly the same on another (ahem) forum. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 8:30:09 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. does he give the money back if he goes on a Warburton slide? Be interesting to know what actual expectations are as is he exceeding them?? As said few times better squad than last season when challenging for promotion was expectation. I’m assuming he signed with that as the challenge, he’s basically said that all interviews, so perhaps this was expectation if so you signed contract matter of months ago get on with it. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:31:06 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. I just said exactly the same on another (ahem) forum. Thanks for spreading the word. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 20, 2022 8:31:33 GMT
Happy with how he fielded these questions. His responses seemed fair. People saying it’s a foregone conclusion, but sounds far from that to me: for as much as I like the club interview not as keen on this one. Starts by kind of saying in around about way unless club or Les approach him then he stays, that’s my take so on that basis unless club want compensation they tell wolves fuck off he he cracks on with job, that was my take, do others hear same as me? But then he goes into to setting out, I’m assuming for wolves benefit, what he would expect from a new club when they approach him and that he would then weigh it up which is kind of contradiction. Defo bit of a game player in him which I’m not criticising as it’s in all of us he’s just playing the game in open sight of everyone. Feels bit like he’s saying tell me what you’ve got but I’m pretty content here so it’s got blow me away. I think you are right Westy but he may also be setting his stall out for any future approaches as well. The more I think about this and talk to colleagues etc, the more I am convinced this is not the right thing for him to do. If he stays and we get to say the play offs then he will have enhanced his reputation more. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 20, 2022 8:32:04 GMT
I just said exactly the same on another (ahem) forum. Thanks for spreading the word. Let's hope Les is listening to us Bill  |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:35:28 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. does he give the money back if he goes on a Warburton slide? Be interesting to know what actual expectations are as is he exceeding them?? As said few times better squad than last season when challenging for promotion was expectation. I’m assuming he signed with that as the challenge, he’s basically said that all interviews, so perhaps this was expectation if so you signed contract matter of months ago get on with it. Don't agree we had a chance last year and bottled it. Looks like we have found a gem so don't bottle it this time. Do what it takes to keep him for the rest of the season at least and see where we are. It's the same analogy gamble or not but along the way we will see some exciting football. |
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Post by sparks on Oct 20, 2022 8:45:20 GMT
Why don’t club say to him, you’re exceeding expectations, so we looking to give u a new much improved contract. If it costs us a mill in wages and we go up it’s peanuts. I just said exactly the same on another (ahem) forum. The obvious question where does the extra money come from as we are lead to believe our headroom under FFP is low. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:47:41 GMT
Get promotion 1 mill bonus out of prem money.
If not we go our own ways
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 8:47:47 GMT
I get the logic of offering more I’m not totally opposed to it but this game comes at you quick and for as good as you are this month you can be as bad following and out the door. So you could give more, we hit the skids he has to go and your paying more compo, god willing we have some luck for a change and that scenario don’t apply this occasion.
It just don’t sit comfortably with me (wider issue not just Beale) that you sign contract to do a job, you do it well (well we never got you in to do it bad) now we got give more money retain you. If it’s new bonus end of season for achieving then I’m all for it as you’re getting it for something if it just more monthly pay I’m bit wary.
If it was a player we wanted stay offering more money and them keeping us dancing we call them greedy cunts (BOS, Manning etc look stick they got)
Money will form some part of any compromise I’m sure but it just don’t feel right but perhaps I’m old fashioned in that viewpoint
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 8:48:30 GMT
Get promotion 1 mill bonus out of prem money. If not we go our own ways took words out mouth I just said bonus can get head round that. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:50:50 GMT
I said last night this is what we must do.
Money sadly is the new God especially in football today.
It's a no brainer for me.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 8:56:15 GMT
Pal tells me he's probably, at best, earning £400K pa here and Wolves would offer him something like £1.5K pa at least. Who amongst us wouldn't want three times our salary? And more attention.....? Or be prepared to at least think about it? £4.5m for three years. Even if sacked. The problem isn't his ambition. It's, as always, the rottenness of the game and the utter cancer that is the shitty, vile and hateful Premier League. Even a shit club like Wolves is empowered by it. To which the flipside is, if he takes us up this season, and there's every chance that could happen, how close could we then match what Wolves are offering? He and the board will be weighing that up too. And to those arguing he could have killed this off yesterday, his phone had been off since 3pm so as not to distract focus from yesterday's preparation. Again, quite understandable. |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 8:56:29 GMT
Trying to be positive maybe we have offered him a large bonus if he were to achieve Promotion Here you go posted last night |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 9:03:18 GMT
Yesterday I was thinking he had every right to go if he wanted to. Ambition, money etc. But this morning I don’t feel like that at all. The money and ambition will come, assuming he doesn’t turn out to be a busted flush as a manager, which is unlikely. Plus his young family are just settling in down here. He’s also brought players here who have also had to relocate off the back of telling them of his vision and ideas for them and the club. If he goes now he’s almost giving the finger to those same players. To me, if he puts all that to one side because he can’t wait a year or two to earn mega bucks at a premier league club then he’s a lesser man than he likes people to think he is. That’s why I’m clinging on to the hope that he isn’t that lesser man. I've been saying the exact same all along Itso. Again, that's just looking at it dispassionately. |
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Post by sparks on Oct 20, 2022 9:04:28 GMT
I never in my working career thought that the promise of a cash bonus was something worthwhile to consider, I much preferred the stability of a rise in my salary.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 9:08:21 GMT
I think you are right Westy but he may also be setting his stall out for any future approaches as well. The more I think about this and talk to colleagues etc, the more I am convinced this is not the right thing for him to do. If he stays and we get to say the play offs then he will have enhanced his reputation more. For him or for QPR? |
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 20, 2022 9:09:14 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 20, 2022 9:16:34 GMT
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 9:16:35 GMT
The shitty Guardian has sixteen stories on the Premier League before it reports, in a paragraph, that we've gone top of the Championship. As I say, the British gutter press are just a motley crew of fickle cunts in the main who only print stuff to suit their headline grabbing agenda. It's why I take most of their crap with a grain of salt. |
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 9:17:35 GMT
Pal tells me he's probably, at best, earning £400K pa here and Wolves would offer him something like £1.5K pa at least. Who amongst us wouldn't want three times our salary? And more attention.....? Or be prepared to at least think about it? £4.5m for three years. Even if sacked. The problem isn't his ambition. It's, as always, the rottenness of the game and the utter cancer that is the shitty, vile and hateful Premier League. Even a shit club like Wolves is empowered by it. To which the flipside is, if he takes us up this season, and there's every chance that could happen, how close could we then match what Wolves are offering? He and the board will be weighing that up too. And to those arguing he could have killed this off yesterday, his phone had been off since 3pm so as not to distract focus from yesterday's preparation. Again, quite understandable. like fuck his phone was off. Words for the gallery don’t lap it up stan |
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Post by Bill on Oct 20, 2022 9:26:33 GMT
Well dad was round his gaff doing some jobs and Beale,s
wife tried to phone him for opinion on the kitchen and she could not get through.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 9:26:39 GMT
like fuck his phone was off. Words for the gallery don’t lap it up stan I'm prepared to take his comment there on face value Westy. He just doesn't come across to me as a blatant liar in that regard |
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Post by hubble on Oct 20, 2022 9:30:23 GMT
Just say no, Mick!
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 20, 2022 9:31:18 GMT
I think you are right Westy but he may also be setting his stall out for any future approaches as well. The more I think about this and talk to colleagues etc, the more I am convinced this is not the right thing for him to do. If he stays and we get to say the play offs then he will have enhanced his reputation more. For him or for QPR? I think it is pretty obvious I am talking about him. It would seem to be his decision. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 20, 2022 9:31:43 GMT
Are managers wages included in ffp or is it just the playing staff?
If not, what’s stopping our billionaire owners from matching the Alsatians offer?
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Oct 20, 2022 9:31:50 GMT
I like this post from a Wolves forum:-
I completely agree. If nothing else, before even talking with Jeff I think it looks extremely poor of him to jump ship from QPR so early. I understand that in football people’s stock can rise and fall quickly so there’s a case for making hay while the sun shines, but this would seem very abrupt. So he would have to be ultra confident that he would not fall flat on his face by joining us - which with a team where we are and with the record we have this season - is not a given. I guess the counter argument is that that’s never a given and for him to get a PL job it would either be for a situation like ours, or he’d have to earn his stripes abroad in a top league and then land a PL job at a higher level than us.
So then it comes down to the ‘sell’ from Jeff. Given the drivel we have heard from him, the utter lack of any coherent strategy for the club despite all the jumbled rhetoric, and the meddling that appears to go on through Uncle Jorge’s involvement, I wouldn’t touch us with a bargepole. If I was Beale, I would stick where he is and continue his journey at QPR and earn his stripes as a No 1. Of course money talks and maybe that’s enough to sway him - that would be a bit short sighted I would have thought. And let’s not discount that he might be an esports fan or have a passion for promoting local musical talent, in which case we are home and hosed.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 9:34:17 GMT
So how does having his phone off stop him shutting it down? If he felt the need to turn phone off because of the noise around wolves then you knew there was something to shutdown? That’s just common sense to me?
Accept your taking him at face value but I don’t believe that for one minute same way I don’t believe there has been contact in background with wolves unofficial via him or agent. Football is arguably one of the dirtiest businesses out there.
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