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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 20, 2022 17:25:54 GMT
Jimmy, MB is settled in London now with his family? Or is he still living out of the Heathrow hotel on his lonesome? Mixed reports on this. Do you know? I’m not too sure tbh mate. I did hear he was in a hotel but can’t say if true or not. Spoke to a close contact at the club today and they told me what a straight up and transparent guy he is. He said he wants to lift the whole club not just the first team. He does all the coaching himself with his assistants unlike other managers who leave it to coaches. Warburton wasn’t liked at all at the club. Put on a v different face for interviews. He said he gave none of the young players hope or inspiration yet Beale has made it clear everyone of them have a chance with him. Apparently he touches base with the academy staff all the time and told them any time you want to bring a player over to us to train just ask. MW wanted them nowhere near the first XI. He said when playing a game a day before a match, if they were short of players MW would rather play with less players than to bring in a youngster. He said it would demoralise the players. Sounded a right prick tbh. Also said if he ever saw anything that shouldn’t be happening rather than say something he’d see it, say nothing and then hours later email it to all the staff telling someone off.. Basically grassing. Everyone was delighted when he got fucked off. He said Beale is a complete and utter breath of fresh air. Fascinating. Thanks Jimmy. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 20, 2022 17:37:09 GMT
As I said above a few times, I don't believe Beale has lied. I don't believe he's had a proper conversation with Wolves at any point. I'll be amazed if his representatives haven't had a chat with them though. I also believe (for whatever reason) he's been quite happy for the perception to be that he's interested in the move at certain points this week. Could be he's used it for a better deal for him and his coaching staff, could be that he genuinely needed a few days thinking space before making a decision and wasn't gonna lie to the press on the subject, could even be that he was genuinely up for the move but had a last minute change of heart. Don't suppose we'll get an answer on that one until he writes an auto biography. My sense is that he just prioritised his focus on preparing for yesterday's game and decided wisely not to give to be distracted by or give mental energy to it until after the game. Instead just leave all that to his reps until he'd had the time and head space to reach a decision this morning, once armed with all the facts and having slept on it. |
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Post by The General on Oct 20, 2022 17:43:40 GMT
Were top of the league
Were top of the league
Were Queens park rangers
Were top of the league
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Post by BrightonR on Oct 20, 2022 17:43:42 GMT
Jimmy, MB is settled in London now with his family? Or is he still living out of the Heathrow hotel on his lonesome? Mixed reports on this. Do you know? I’m not too sure tbh mate. I did hear he was in a hotel but can’t say if true or not. Spoke to a close contact at the club today and they told me what a straight up and transparent guy he is. He said he wants to lift the whole club not just the first team. He does all the coaching himself with his assistants unlike other managers who leave it to coaches. Warburton wasn’t liked at all at the club. Put on a v different face for interviews. He said he gave none of the young players hope or inspiration yet Beale has made it clear everyone of them have a chance with him. Apparently he touches base with the academy staff all the time and told them any time you want to bring a player over to us to train just ask. MW wanted them nowhere near the first XI. He said when playing a game a day before a match, if they were short of players MW would rather play with less players than to bring in a youngster. He said it would demoralise the players. Sounded a right prick tbh. Also said if he ever saw anything that shouldn’t be happening rather than say something he’d see it, say nothing and then hours later email it to all the staff telling someone off.. Basically grassing. Everyone was delighted when he got fucked off. He said Beale is a complete and utter breath of fresh air. I’m not at all surprised by this. Been very clear to me that they are like chalk and cheese. And I much prefer eating cheese.😂 Surely it’s obvious to most, the way the players are responding to his methods. Hardly surprising he’s getting more out of them. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 20, 2022 17:53:34 GMT
As I said above a few times, I don't believe Beale has lied. I don't believe he's had a proper conversation with Wolves at any point. I'll be amazed if his representatives haven't had a chat with them though. I also believe (for whatever reason) he's been quite happy for the perception to be that he's interested in the move at certain points this week. Could be he's used it for a better deal for him and his coaching staff, could be that he genuinely needed a few days thinking space before making a decision and wasn't gonna lie to the press on the subject, could even be that he was genuinely up for the move but had a last minute change of heart. Don't suppose we'll get an answer on that one until he writes an auto biography. My sense is that he just prioritised his focus on preparing for yesterday's game and decided wisely not to give to be distracted by or give mental energy to it until after the game. Instead just leave all that to his reps until he'd had the time and head space to reach a decision this morning, once armed with all the facts and having slept on it. Spot on |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 20, 2022 17:58:18 GMT
We’ll have to disagree Jimmy He said late last night he knew no more than anyone. That doesn’t stack up with what you are saying. Instead of saying he lied, how about I say he was conservative with the truth. Is that better… So your issue here is the "I know as much as anyone else" comment Beale made? Ok, I reckon that bit was a white lie. Does that put this debate to bed? In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 20, 2022 18:02:48 GMT
So your issue here is the "I know as much as anyone else" comment Beale made? Ok, I reckon that bit was a white lie. Does that put this debate to bed? In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. No chance mate. Seriously meant to be a stand up guy. Not his style at all. If he did he’d follow it through otherwise what’s the point in unsettling everyone? Wolves would have put the word out to unsettle him and make their interest known. Plus anyone in and around Wolves who knew of a potential approach would have done the same. This is on Wolves not us, MB or his reps. Absolutely not. |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 20, 2022 18:14:41 GMT
So your issue here is the "I know as much as anyone else" comment Beale made? Ok, I reckon that bit was a white lie. Does that put this debate to bed? In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. Don't think he's fanned the flames himself mate. I do however think, for whatever reason, he didn't do anything to quash the rumours until this morning. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 20, 2022 18:24:52 GMT
In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. Don't think he's fanned the flames himself mate. I do however think, for whatever reason, he didn't do anything to quash the rumours until this morning. Playing devils advocate, I reckon he took himself out of the equation until after the game. Assessed everything and then gave his decision / response. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 20, 2022 18:39:15 GMT
In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. No chance mate. Seriously meant to be a stand up guy. Not his style at all. If he did he’d follow it through otherwise what’s the point in unsettling everyone? Wolves would have put the word out to unsettle him and make their interest known. Plus anyone in and around Wolves who knew of a potential approach would have done the same. This is on Wolves not us, MB or his reps. Absolutely not. Fair do’s Jimmy, that clears that up. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Oct 20, 2022 18:46:09 GMT
In the interests of harmony mate, yes it does. Without wanting to perpetuate things though, if he did have a handle on what was going on, was it him that spread the word do you think? That’s a genuine question mate, for you and Jimmy. Because if he did then that’s poor form in my book, especially on the night of a match. If he didn’t send out a few signals then who did, his agent ? If it was his agent, he needs kneecapping as let’s face it, it took the edge of what should have been a good night. Don't think he's fanned the flames himself mate. I do however think, for whatever reason, he didn't do anything to quash the rumours until this morning. Fair enough Tarbs. That’s all I was really trying to get my head around. Like everyone else I’m over the moon he stayed but I felt aggrieved that it all seemingly kicked off on the night of a match. And if Beale had anything to do with it, I’d find it that bit harder to be so positive about him staying. From what Jimmy and you are suggesting, it’s not down to him though, so happy days. Until the next time a club comes in for him😆 |
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 20, 2022 18:51:08 GMT
And that is the worry mate. Easy enough knocking back a team at the bottom of the Premier League when you're sat at the top of the Championship. Might be a different story when a genuine big side come knocking.
Hopefully that doesn't happen and he leads us out in the Premier League be season.
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Post by 1973ranger on Oct 20, 2022 19:13:21 GMT
What today has shown that his head will not be turned by any old club so potential suitors will not look at him as a gimme to walk away.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 20, 2022 19:40:03 GMT
Might have the same story with Villa next week judging by what I'm watching tonight. Villa look utter gash. He's bound to be on their list too when they pull the plug on Stevie G.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 20, 2022 20:13:28 GMT
My take is there was defo contact between parties possibly not direct with beale but with people on his behalf with his knowledge and approval. I think he was definitely interested, he’s more or less admitted that, and was in two minds about taking (backed up by what Jimmy and Tarbs are saying)
I’m Guessing that’s why it suddenly became hot news as wolves thought they had man from putting out the feelers. I cant see how it went as high profile as it did and wolves asking permission to speak if they had not been given the nod. Beale more or less said in Interviews was waiting for club say had contact from wolves so clearly he was expecting approach and was in the loop, Possibly he got that from the tea leaves as his phone was off. He could have shut it down but chose not too as he was likely out door after yesterdays game.
No way is a prem club going come out asking for permission to speak to a championship manager to get told he don’t even want speak with you, they done the groundwork and thought it was over the line then tried to formalise it with official approach. They must be fuming!!
He’s not as white and clean as some think but he’s got ambition which is good, especially whilst with us as that will keep owners honest if they want retain him they will need push themselves so it kind of works to our advantage.
Sonething has imo happened between those interviews post match and overnight for him to back out. Maybe promises from club/owners or being top and seeing what he could do with this side. Whatever occurred I’m over the moon as he seems content with the outcome not like he’s here under duress which is important
We go again Saturday.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 20, 2022 20:43:32 GMT
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Post by Shania on Oct 20, 2022 20:51:22 GMT
What can the club learn from this? I`m only asking.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 20, 2022 21:02:38 GMT
I think the club handled the whole thing well Shania. I think the Manager could have been a bit smarter in terms of public perception but as I've said earlier, I have no idea what the motivations were behind how he he reacted. He certainly seems like a considered man who doesn't do much on impulse. Most of his moves and public statements seem to be pretty well thought out in most circumstances.
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Post by Shania on Oct 20, 2022 21:11:45 GMT
I think the club handled the whole thing well Shania. I think the Manager could have been a bit smarter in terms of public perception but as I've said earlier, I have no idea what the motivations were behind how he he reacted. He certainly seems like a considered man who doesn't do much on impulse. Most of his moves and public statements seem to be pretty well thought out in most circumstances. I agree. And if I may add; scout coaches who fits the way QPR want to play, not only players. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 20, 2022 23:11:22 GMT
My take is there was defo contact between parties possibly not direct with beale but with people on his behalf with his knowledge and approval. I think he was definitely interested, he’s more or less admitted that, and was in two minds about taking (backed up by what Jimmy and Tarbs are saying) I’m Guessing that’s why it suddenly became hot news as wolves thought they had man from putting out the feelers. I cant see how it went as high profile as it did and wolves asking permission to speak if they had not been given the nod. Beale more or less said in Interviews was waiting for club say had contact from wolves so clearly he was expecting approach and was in the loop, Possibly he got that from the tea leaves as his phone was off. He could have shut it down but chose not too as he was likely out door after yesterdays game. No way is a prem club going come out asking for permission to speak to a championship manager to get told he don’t even want speak with you, they done the groundwork and thought it was over the line then tried to formalise it with official approach. They must be fuming!! He’s not as white and clean as some think but he’s got ambition which is good, especially whilst with us as that will keep owners honest if they want retain him they will need push themselves so it kind of works to our advantage. Sonething has imo happened between those interviews post match and overnight for him to back out. Maybe promises from club/owners or being top and seeing what he could do with this side. Whatever occurred I’m over the moon as he seems content with the outcome not like he’s here under duress which is important We go again Saturday. Great post, exactly this |
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