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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 16:54:44 GMT
The degree of self-importance is astonishing😂 I'm far from important but some have shown that they are intolerant to some views even when backed up with evidence or rationale... I'm not going to change opinions because of a backlash from some...
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 17:09:13 GMT
The degree of self-importance is astonishing😂 I'm far from important but some have shown that they are intolerant to some views even when backed up with evidence or rationale... I'm not going to change opinions because of a backlash from some... You want to see self-importance BTW check out stainrodisalegend declare he called me out to save the board...
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Post by Bill on May 13, 2024 19:21:58 GMT
Apologies it was only a genuine question?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 20:11:58 GMT
Apologies it was only a genuine question? Why on earth are you apologising for?? You asked a question people answered but unfortunately some people can't read and scream 'RACIST' rather than listen to what is being said... Unless these people are happy to share a list of acceptable views and opinions they will have to be grown up and understand that not everyone sees things the same way as them... Apologising FFS...
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 13, 2024 20:54:38 GMT
Think you are right Alan, and I now regret feeding the troll. He's probably better left to rot in his lonely flat with his Big Match DVDs, Panini stickers and British National Party posters. But I also thought that if left unchallenged then his statement that QPR should be ashamed for having a number of black players would turn this forum into one that myself and I suspect quite a few other regular posters would no longer want to be on. Just read through his follow-up posts now and he is clearly loving it, and trying to deflect from what he actually said. Les Ferdinand, Clive Wilson, Bob Hazel and Danny Shittu - the club should be ashamed for ever selecting them! He probably regrets us signing JCS. Maybe Jimmy Dunne too as he probably doesn't like the Irish. Oh no, wait, he doesn't have an opinion on them because he no longer even follows us. Its Stan and Brighton I feel sorry for. They have done a great job building a forum where QPR fans can argue and banter in a friendly way without self-important mods banning people every two minutes. But Fantasy Island does depend on everyone on it not behaving like an utter nob. They must be tearing their hair out when they read his racist crap which would have any casual reader or new poster just thinking "fuck this, I've got better things to do than talk to cave men." How you getting on working out what match we were at home live on ITV or you happy to admit that you made that up? Can you read? Not being rude it's a genuine question as if you can you would have seen that I had reasons to believe Les Ferdinand was undertaking a social engineering at QPR which would see us with a black team... that's what I objected to with regards to QPR... Please check before throwing out accusations of BNP Membership.... FFS! Im not going to waste my evening working out what fucking match in the early to mid eighties I witnessed an ITV sports presenter getting racially abused for being Jewish. Like Alan said about another incident, if you are 10 feet away at an actual match and something v vivid happens before your eyes, you remember that. Do you really think I give a fuck what you think of me? If you seriously believe i’m making it up I couldn’t give a monkeys because you are a sad bloke best left to his Beta Max and his bile. The much better news for most fans is the mood is so different inside Loftus Rd these days, if you only bothered to come along. QPR supporters have kept the best of the old (friendliness, togetherness, community spirit) but have also joined the 21st Century. Which is precisely why you no longer feel at home. Re Les Ferdinand that was complete deflection - to repeat, you said the club should be ashamed because it could almost field a team of black players. You didn’t mention Les Ferdinand or alleged positive discrimination until you were called out for your racism. Even you later admitted that it was only “alleged” that Ferdinand engaged in positive discrimination (and that was over a manager appointment, not players in any case) but apparently the club should be “ashamed” anyway. A load of young player have just been released, of all ethnicities. QPR tries to sign the best players they can on their budget. Quite often it has fucked up, sometimes it gets it right. Do you really think in their data analytics software there is a tab saying “player colour?”. Seriously? Like most bigots you love dishing it out but when you are hauled up for it you can’t take it.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 21:24:30 GMT
How you getting on working out what match we were at home live on ITV or you happy to admit that you made that up? Can you read? Not being rude it's a genuine question as if you can you would have seen that I had reasons to believe Les Ferdinand was undertaking a social engineering at QPR which would see us with a black team... that's what I objected to with regards to QPR... Please check before throwing out accusations of BNP Membership.... FFS! Im not going to waste my evening working out what fucking match in the early to mid eighties I witnessed an ITV sports presenter getting racially abused for being Jewish. Like Alan said about another incident, if you are 10 feet away at an actual match and something v vivid happens before your eyes, you remember that. Do you really think I give a fuck what you think of me? If you seriously believe i’m making it up I couldn’t give a monkeys because you are a sad bloke best left to his Beta Max and his bile. The much better news for most fans is the mood is so different inside Loftus Rd these days, if you only bothered to come along. QPR supporters have kept the best of the old (friendliness, togetherness, community spirit) but have also joined the 21st Century. Which is precisely why you no longer feel at home. Re Les Ferdinand that was complete deflection - to repeat, you said the club should be ashamed because it could almost field a team of black players. You didn’t mention Les Ferdinand or alleged positive discrimination until you were called out for your racism. Even you later admitted that it was only “alleged” that Ferdinand engaged in positive discrimination (and that was over a manager appointment, not players in any case) but apparently the club should be “ashamed” anyway. A load of young player have just been released, of all ethnicities. QPR tries to sign the best players they can on their budget. Quite often it has fucked up, sometimes it gets it right. Do you really think in their data analytics software there is a tab saying “player colour?”. Seriously? Like most bigots you love dishing it out but when you are hauled up for it you can’t take it. A live match in ITV that no one else remembers apart from you, eh? You're talking bollocks and even you know... Did I need to mention Les Ferdinand when I've said about his black policy on a number of occasions and the question was about things you dislike about modern football so I gave a list.... I don't feel at home because we've become another Watford fan base (think I'm lying, check out my observation about being on a train with Watford fans at the home match in January). We've become a replica shirt wearing, middle class fanbase who have no identity. We've become a fanbase who are desperate to have a rivalry with Reading because of the kit they wear. We've become a fan base who think we have a rival with Cardiff and sing about them to the amusement if everyone outside the fanbase. We've become a fan base of grasses. We beaome a fan base who embraced the rich boys quicker a cheap hooker embraces a punter The mood in Loftus Road is now as intimidating as a nice warm fire place is for a kitten but we've become a fanbase who still cling on to the total bollocks that we generated such an intimidating atmosphere against Chelsea in 2010 that they were absolutely terrified despite them being unlucky not to win with 9 men and no report saying they were affected by the atmosphere. We've become a fanbase who wave plastic flags before matches and have a orchestrated group. Loftus Road isn't anything like it was in the 1980s and that's nothing to celebrate...
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Post by Corbray on May 13, 2024 21:50:29 GMT
@oldr, you've said numerous times that you don't care about the modern QPR. you know nothing of the modern state of QPR other than the stuff you dream up from your armchair. it's ridiculous. you either love the club despite it's many many failings or you don't. it's that simple. you can harken back to the old days and as a 31 year old i love to hear the stories from older heads about our club but times move on and there's no reason to feel so resentful about it. it's quite pathetic from you that you refuse to see reason and understand why everyone thinks you're coming across as a twat.
as for asking stains to provide a ridiculous level of proof about a random ITV game from the 80s of which he may very well have gotten the date or broadcaster wrong, coz y'know, it's 40 years ago, why don't you provide proof about les' rooney rule? all you've said so far is "oh i heard that les only wanted to sign black players 🤪."
where's the proof? i want a dosier with a multitude of reliable sources and official documents.
i don't often judge people's commitment to this club but you're nothing more than a WUM and since becoming more active on this forum all you've done is provide negativity and racist rhetoric. you where even critical towards stan who provides so much to this forum and has a link to the club for bringing up what was brought up at a recent committee meeting. you questioned everything that was brought up as though it was somehow a negative rather than appreciate that it was discussed in the first place. ironically all from the comfort of your armchair where you can criticize and condemn but provide no positive discussion.
you provide nothing to the club, your doofus 'opinions' aren't appreciated, no one cares about your stories and no one respects your arguments. you aren't here to provide the insight or knowledge that you think you are and you can sit there and say "you'll love some of my opinions and hate others" but genuinely nobody cares. genuinely, i mean this in the nicest way i can, you bring nothing of value to this forum. i'm sure you'll sit there wearing a t-shirt that says "get in line for an apology" snickering thinking you're some sort of cool dude but you're not. you don't care about the club, you have zero respect for this forums users and your self entitled posts are a shit stain on this forum. go and support brentford or watch youtube shorts or something idk. or just take a moment to listen to what people are saying and reign it in. you are not in the right.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2024 21:52:47 GMT
@oldr, you've said numerous times that you don't care about the modern QPR. you know nothing of the modern state of QPR other than the stuff you dream up from your armchair. it's ridiculous. you either love the club despite it's many many failings or you don't. it's that simple. you can harken back to the old days and as a 31 year old i love to hear the stories from older heads about our club but times move on and there's no reason to feel so resentful about it. it's quite pathetic from you that you refuse to see reason and understand why everyone thinks you're coming across as a twat. as for asking stains to provide a ridiculous level of proof about a random ITV game from the 80s of which he may very well have gotten the date or broadcaster wrong, coz y'know, it's 40 years ago, why don't you provide proof about les' rooney rule? all you've said so far is "oh i heard that les only wanted to sign black players 🤪." where's the proof? i want a dosier with a multitude of reliable sources and official documents. i don't often judge people's commitment to this club but you're nothing more than a WUM and since becoming more active on this forum all you've done is provide negativity and racist rhetoric. you where even critical towards stan who provides so much to this forum and has a link to the club for bringing up what was brought up at a recent committee meeting. you questioned everything that was brought up as though it was somehow a negative rather than appreciate that it was discussed in the first place. ironically all from the comfort of your armchair where you can criticize and condemn but provide no positive discussion. you provide nothing to the club, your doofus 'opinions' aren't appreciated, no one cares about your stories and no one respects your arguments. you aren't here to provide the insight or knowledge that you think you are and you can sit there and say "you'll love some of my opinions and hate others" but genuinely nobody cares. genuinely, i mean this in the nicest way i can, you bring nothing of value to this forum. i'm sure you'll sit there wearing a t-shirt that says "get in line for an apology" snickering thinking you're some sort of cool dude but you're not. you don't care about the club, you have zero respect for this forums users and your self entitled posts are a shit stain on this forum. go and support brentford or watch youtube shorts or something idk. or just take a moment to listen to what people are saying and reign it in. you are not in the right. WUM? Yep, if in doubt say they're on a wind up... Why would you think I care if my opinions are those of all of you or none?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 14, 2024 10:00:31 GMT
FFS! Im not going to waste my evening working out what fucking match in the early to mid eighties I witnessed an ITV sports presenter getting racially abused for being Jewish. Like Alan said about another incident, if you are 10 feet away at an actual match and something v vivid happens before your eyes, you remember that. Do you really think I give a fuck what you think of me? If you seriously believe i’m making it up I couldn’t give a monkeys because you are a sad bloke best left to his Beta Max and his bile. The much better news for most fans is the mood is so different inside Loftus Rd these days, if you only bothered to come along. QPR supporters have kept the best of the old (friendliness, togetherness, community spirit) but have also joined the 21st Century. Which is precisely why you no longer feel at home. Re Les Ferdinand that was complete deflection - to repeat, you said the club should be ashamed because it could almost field a team of black players. You didn’t mention Les Ferdinand or alleged positive discrimination until you were called out for your racism. Even you later admitted that it was only “alleged” that Ferdinand engaged in positive discrimination (and that was over a manager appointment, not players in any case) but apparently the club should be “ashamed” anyway. A load of young player have just been released, of all ethnicities. QPR tries to sign the best players they can on their budget. Quite often it has fucked up, sometimes it gets it right. Do you really think in their data analytics software there is a tab saying “player colour?”. Seriously? Like most bigots you love dishing it out but when you are hauled up for it you can’t take it. A live match in ITV that no one else remembers apart from you, eh? You're talking bollocks and even you know... Did I need to mention Les Ferdinand when I've said about his black policy on a number of occasions and the question was about things you dislike about modern football so I gave a list.... I don't feel at home because we've become another Watford fan base (think I'm lying, check out my observation about being on a train with Watford fans at the home match in January). We've become a replica shirt wearing, middle class fanbase who have no identity. We've become a fanbase who are desperate to have a rivalry with Reading because of the kit they wear. We've become a fan base who think we have a rival with Cardiff and sing about them to the amusement if everyone outside the fanbase. We've become a fan base of grasses. We beaome a fan base who embraced the rich boys quicker a cheap hooker embraces a punter The mood in Loftus Road is now as intimidating as a nice warm fire place is for a kitten but we've become a fanbase who still cling on to the total bollocks that we generated such an intimidating atmosphere against Chelsea in 2010 that they were absolutely terrified despite them being unlucky not to win with 9 men and no report saying they were affected by the atmosphere. We've become a fanbase who wave plastic flags before matches and have a orchestrated group. Loftus Road isn't anything like it was in the 1980s and that's nothing to celebrate... You say "we" a lot there for someone who doesn't want to be part of said fanbase...
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 10:37:08 GMT
A live match in ITV that no one else remembers apart from you, eh? You're talking bollocks and even you know... Did I need to mention Les Ferdinand when I've said about his black policy on a number of occasions and the question was about things you dislike about modern football so I gave a list.... I don't feel at home because we've become another Watford fan base (think I'm lying, check out my observation about being on a train with Watford fans at the home match in January). We've become a replica shirt wearing, middle class fanbase who have no identity. We've become a fanbase who are desperate to have a rivalry with Reading because of the kit they wear. We've become a fan base who think we have a rival with Cardiff and sing about them to the amusement if everyone outside the fanbase. We've become a fan base of grasses. We beaome a fan base who embraced the rich boys quicker a cheap hooker embraces a punter The mood in Loftus Road is now as intimidating as a nice warm fire place is for a kitten but we've become a fanbase who still cling on to the total bollocks that we generated such an intimidating atmosphere against Chelsea in 2010 that they were absolutely terrified despite them being unlucky not to win with 9 men and no report saying they were affected by the atmosphere. We've become a fanbase who wave plastic flags before matches and have a orchestrated group. Loftus Road isn't anything like it was in the 1980s and that's nothing to celebrate... You say "we" a lot there for someone who doesn't want to be part of said fanbase... Fair point but it's not feeling like 'you' yet...
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Post by hal9thou on May 14, 2024 10:42:23 GMT
Apologies it was only a genuine question? Why on earth are you apologising for?? You asked a question people answered but unfortunately some people can't read and scream 'RACIST' rather than listen to what is being said... Unless these people are happy to share a list of acceptable views and opinions they will have to be grown up and understand that not everyone sees things the same way as them... Apologising FFS... Bill's sense of humour
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Post by Bill on May 14, 2024 18:08:25 GMT
Why on earth are you apologising for?? You asked a question people answered but unfortunately some people can't read and scream 'RACIST' rather than listen to what is being said... Unless these people are happy to share a list of acceptable views and opinions they will have to be grown up and understand that not everyone sees things the same way as them... Apologising FFS... Bill's sense of humour Yes Hal,i cant believe this thread at all. Yes i am a senior supporter and yes i have at times criticised the club and yes the football now is not the product i enjoyed but Rangers are my team,i still go,i still follow them and always will. As other posters have said i dont understand why someone would labour the point about something that is not popular on the board. I come from a background where asians were not liked and seen as imposters if you like. In my youth we from Hounslow used to go p*** bashing in Southall. However the world has moved on from that and you either try to adapt or get in bother. Its the same now with regard to what you can say or cant say. Insults that are racial back in the day were accepted just rolled off the tongue and then suddenly things you used to say you cant and at times you just revert back to your old ways. Its not easy but modern society demands it. There is a danger that it can be one sided like a black man insults a white man yet its never questioned or disscused. Example Stephen Lawrance is murdered by a group of white men and we never hear the end of it. Yet the very same evening a white lad from Shepherds Bush area is kicked to death in Brick Lane by a group of Bangladeshi men. The first incident still rumbles on to this day R.I.P. is laughable. The second incident you hear didly squat about it but it also killed the victims Dad through being heartbroken. Cant be right can it? Obviously a lot is driven by the media yet white on black sells papers while black on white dont seem to have the same news appeal.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 18:16:26 GMT
Bill's sense of humour Yes Hal,i cant believe this thread at all. Yes i am a senior supporter and yes i have at times criticised the club and yes the football now is not the product i enjoyed but Rangers are my team,i still go,i still follow them and always will. As other posters have said i dont understand why someone would labour the point about something that is not popular on the board. I come from a background where asians were not liked and seen as imposters if you like. In my youth we from Hounslow used to go p*** bashing in Southall. However the world has moved on from that and you either try to adapt or get in bother. Its the same now with regard to what you can say or cant say. Insults that are racial back in the day were accepted just rolled off the tongue and then suddenly things you used to say you cant and at times you just revert back to your old ways. Its not easy but modern society demands it. There is a danger that it can be one sided like a black man insults a white man yet its never questioned. Example Stephen Lawrance is murdered by a group of white men and we never hear the end of it. Yet the very same evening a white lad from Shepherds Bush area is kicked to death in Brick Lane by a group of Bangladeshi men. The first incident still rumbles on to this day R.I.P. is laughable. The second incident you hear didly squat about it but it also killed the victims Dad through being heartbroken. Cant be right can it? There needs to be an adult discussion- nationally, not on here - about race but everyone is afraid to do so. You make a great point about media attention on the Laurence case and I would like to add the clamouring to deride stop and search as racist overlooks the point that Police are responding to what they know. A group of white men aged 18-30 will be more likely to be stopped at a football match because they are most likely to be hooligans A group of middle class students will be most like likely to be stopped if Police suspect a Just Stop Oil demo Irishmen were inevitably stopped in London when the IRA were at war with us Male Black youth will be stopped by Police looking for knifes as they are most responsible for that crime... People desperate to avoid acknowledgement of this are a huge problem.
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Post by Corbray on May 14, 2024 18:20:57 GMT
Bill's sense of humour Yes Hal,i cant believe this thread at all. Yes i am a senior supporter and yes i have at times criticised the club and yes the football now is not the product i enjoyed but Rangers are my team,i still go,i still follow them and always will. As other posters have said i dont understand why someone would labour the point about something that is not popular on the board. I come from a background where asians were not liked and seen as imposters if you like. In my youth we from Hounslow used to go p*** bashing in Southall. However the world has moved on from that and you either try to adapt or get in bother. Its the same now with regard to what you can say or cant say. Insults that are racial back in the day were accepted just rolled off the tongue and then suddenly things you used to say you cant and at times you just revert back to your old ways. Its not easy but modern society demands it. There is a danger that it can be one sided like a black man insults a white man yet its never questioned. Example Stephen Lawrance is murdered by a group of white men and we never hear the end of it. Yet the very same evening a white lad from Shepherds Bush area is kicked to death in Brick Lane by a group of Bangladeshi men. The first incident still rumbles on to this day R.I.P. is laughable. The second incident you hear didly squat about it but it also killed the victims Dad through being heartbroken. Cant be right can it? that's the difference though bill, you have old school views which i may not personally agree with but i respect your right views and at the end of the day i know you love the club and want us to be successful. you wouldn't care if a team of 11 black players won us the league and you'd root for them right there alongside the rest of us. that's the difference with it all, we might all have differing opinions about politics and society etc but we're all on the same page about wanting our club to do well.
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Post by Bill on May 14, 2024 18:24:15 GMT
Apologies it was only a genuine question? Why on earth are you apologising for?? You asked a question people answered but unfortunately some people can't read and scream 'RACIST' rather than listen to what is being said... Unless these people are happy to share a list of acceptable views and opinions they will have to be grown up and understand that not everyone sees things the same way as them... Apologising FFS... Because it felt right imo. I dont know how old you are but you suddenly show up again and start shit stirring and then ask why i should apologise. Like you i have my opinion and whilst i understand that everyone is welcome here,i find your attitude,rhetoric and opinions ill founded and frankly bollocks. So on that note can i tell you to fuck off as you embarassing to the older generation at the club. Yes the club is far from perfect but then what is.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 19:10:22 GMT
Why on earth are you apologising for?? You asked a question people answered but unfortunately some people can't read and scream 'RACIST' rather than listen to what is being said... Unless these people are happy to share a list of acceptable views and opinions they will have to be grown up and understand that not everyone sees things the same way as them... Apologising FFS... Because it felt right imo. I dont know how old you are but you suddenly show up again and start shit stirring and then ask why i should apologise. Like you i have my opinion and whilst i understand that everyone is welcome here,i find your attitude,rhetoric and opinions ill founded and frankly bollocks. So on that note can i tell you to fuck off as you embarassing to the older generation at the club. Yes the club is far from perfect but then what is. You're entitled to your opinion and all that... I think you're often wrong and enjoy debating points but I'm not going to tell you to fuck off 👍
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 19:16:45 GMT
Yes Hal,i cant believe this thread at all. Yes i am a senior supporter and yes i have at times criticised the club and yes the football now is not the product i enjoyed but Rangers are my team,i still go,i still follow them and always will. As other posters have said i dont understand why someone would labour the point about something that is not popular on the board. I come from a background where asians were not liked and seen as imposters if you like. In my youth we from Hounslow used to go p*** bashing in Southall. However the world has moved on from that and you either try to adapt or get in bother. Its the same now with regard to what you can say or cant say. Insults that are racial back in the day were accepted just rolled off the tongue and then suddenly things you used to say you cant and at times you just revert back to your old ways. Its not easy but modern society demands it. There is a danger that it can be one sided like a black man insults a white man yet its never questioned. Example Stephen Lawrance is murdered by a group of white men and we never hear the end of it. Yet the very same evening a white lad from Shepherds Bush area is kicked to death in Brick Lane by a group of Bangladeshi men. The first incident still rumbles on to this day R.I.P. is laughable. The second incident you hear didly squat about it but it also killed the victims Dad through being heartbroken. Cant be right can it? that's the difference though bill, you have old school views which i may not personally agree with but i respect your right views and at the end of the day i know you love the club and want us to be successful. you wouldn't care if a team of 11 black players won us the league and you'd root for them right there alongside the rest of us. that's the difference with it all, we might all have differing opinions about politics and society etc but we're all on the same page about wanting our club to do well. But I don't recognise this as QPR and wouldn't if there were 11 White Emglish men... that's the point. I support a team who died around 15 years ago and when I can be bothered to go it's to see friends and feel nostalgic... You want the business who call themselves QPR to achieve success and you may not care if its via buying success like they did in 2010/11 and 2014/15 or whether or not Les had social engineered an entire black team providing you have something to celebrate/boast about. 'QPR', I suspect, plays a big role in your life so you want/need success but the club I supported doesn't exist so I can take a different approach and, dare I say, a moral position you may be unwilling to take even if they crossed a line for you... I, for one, boycotted the 'Boutique years' out of principle, would you ever take a similar stance?
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Post by West Acton on May 14, 2024 19:48:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 19:55:46 GMT
There is an echo in here 🙄 I'm not sure you grasp the concept of a message board... Bill makes the same point ad infinitum about Sinclair Armstrong Shania made the same point about Marti ad infinitum You make the same point about Dykes ad infinitum I make the same point about not recognising this as QPR ad infinitum It's only a problem if that was the only thing I, they or you talked about.. As I say, ad infinitum, I'm not here canvassing for votes for an election... 👍
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Post by West Acton on May 14, 2024 20:00:08 GMT
There it goes again.
Maybe I’m suffering with tinnitus
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 20:02:54 GMT
There it goes again. Maybe I’m suffering with tinnitus You and Les Dennis would be a great double act but you'll never get your balls on Amanda Holden's chin as he did 👍
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Post by Hitman34 on May 14, 2024 20:04:19 GMT
that's the difference though bill, you have old school views which i may not personally agree with but i respect your right views and at the end of the day i know you love the club and want us to be successful. you wouldn't care if a team of 11 black players won us the league and you'd root for them right there alongside the rest of us. that's the difference with it all, we might all have differing opinions about politics and society etc but we're all on the same page about wanting our club to do well. But I don't recognise this as QPR and wouldn't if there were 11 White Emglish men... that's the point. I support a team who died around 15 years ago and when I can be bothered to go it's to see friends and feel nostalgic... You want the business who call themselves QPR to achieve success and you may not care if its via buying success like they did in 2010/11 and 2014/15 or whether or not Les had social engineered an entire black team providing you have something to celebrate/boast about. 'QPR', I suspect, plays a big role in your life so you want/need success but the club I supported doesn't exist so I can take a different approach and, dare I say, a moral position you may be unwilling to take even if they crossed a line for you... I, for one, boycotted the 'Boutique years' out of principle, would you ever take a similar stance? Christ…… and I thought I was a miserable cunt!!!
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Post by Corbray on May 14, 2024 20:05:03 GMT
that's the difference though bill, you have old school views which i may not personally agree with but i respect your right views and at the end of the day i know you love the club and want us to be successful. you wouldn't care if a team of 11 black players won us the league and you'd root for them right there alongside the rest of us. that's the difference with it all, we might all have differing opinions about politics and society etc but we're all on the same page about wanting our club to do well. But I don't recognise this as QPR and wouldn't if there were 11 White Emglish men... that's the point. I support a team who died around 15 years ago and when I can be bothered to go it's to see friends and feel nostalgic... You want the business who call themselves QPR to achieve success and you may not care if its via buying success like they did in 2010/11 and 2014/15 or whether or not Les had social engineered an entire black team providing you have something to celebrate/boast about. 'QPR', I suspect, plays a big role in your life so you want/need success but the club I supported doesn't exist so I can take a different approach and, dare I say, a moral position you may be unwilling to take even if they crossed a line for you... I, for one, boycotted the 'Boutique years' out of principle, would you ever take a similar stance? didn't like our moneybags era either. fun fact, i was a chelsea fan until i was 10 after they were bought out by abramovich as my entire family bar my dad (who's fulham) are all chelsea. chose QPR as my club after that but by the time we started splashing the cash i was too deep in QPR and had more love for the club than i ever did growing up with chelsea. we've always been a buying and selling club and most clubs are. we used to sign players from lower league clubs, develop them and sell them on. the club you loved in the 80s and 90s were notorious for that and that past reputation is something i still like about our club. there's no moral high ground, we're talking about football here not the war in iraq lol. if you don't like, care or have anything insightful about the modern QPR then i don't get why you're even bothering to waste your time here as that's all you're doing at this point. how can you not celebrate this season? jimmy dunne's winner at birmingham, the 2-1 win away at leicester, 4-0 against leeds and the entire remarkable turnaround from the doldrums of gaz to marti's revolution. we're never going to be a top club but those are the moments fans live for and it makes the highs even more sweeter. thing is you've made your mind up, you're entitled to it if course but you've also become self grandiose because of it. you've built up such a negative thought process about QPR that you now want to see it fail - the very same club that you once so passionately supported. you're basically darth vader at this point. you pretend you don't care but you do, you wouldn't be wasting your time on this forum if you didn't. QPR takes up just as much time in your life as it does all of ours, except for you it's a wholey negative experience. you've even got bill the grumpy granddad of this forum calling you out on your toxicity about the club lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 20:08:44 GMT
But I don't recognise this as QPR and wouldn't if there were 11 White Emglish men... that's the point. I support a team who died around 15 years ago and when I can be bothered to go it's to see friends and feel nostalgic... You want the business who call themselves QPR to achieve success and you may not care if its via buying success like they did in 2010/11 and 2014/15 or whether or not Les had social engineered an entire black team providing you have something to celebrate/boast about. 'QPR', I suspect, plays a big role in your life so you want/need success but the club I supported doesn't exist so I can take a different approach and, dare I say, a moral position you may be unwilling to take even if they crossed a line for you... I, for one, boycotted the 'Boutique years' out of principle, would you ever take a similar stance? didn't like our moneybags era either. fun fact, i was a chelsea fan until i was 10 after they were bought out by abramovich as my entire family bar my dad (who's fulham) are all chelsea. chose QPR as my club after that but by the time we started splashing the cash i was too deep in QPR and had more love for the club than i ever did growing up with chelsea. we've always been a buying and selling club and most clubs are. we used to sign players from lower league clubs, develop them and sell them on. the club you loved in the 80s and 90s were notorious for that and that past reputation is something i still like about our club. there's no moral high ground, we're talking about football here not the war in iraq lol. if you don't like, care or have anything insightful about the modern QPR then i don't get why you're even bothering to waste your time here as that's all you're doing at this point. how can you not celebrate this season? jimmy dunne's winner at birmingham, the 2-1 win away at leicester, 4-0 against leeds and the entire remarkable turnaround from the doldrums of gaz to marti's revolution. we're never going to be a top club but those are the moments fans live for and it makes the highs even more sweeter. thing is you've made your mind up, you're entitled to it if course but you've also become self grandiose because of it. you've built up such a negative thought process about QPR that you now want to see it fail - the very same club that you once so passionately supported. you're basically darth vader at this point. you pretend you don't care but you do, you wouldn't be wasting your time on this forum if you didn't. QPR takes up just as much time in your life as it does all of ours, except for you it's a wholey negative experience. you've even got bill the grumpy granddad of this forum calling you out on your toxicity about the club lol. Just want to correct you on two things... I don't recall ever expressing a desire to see 'QPR' fail. Secondly, you can see my posts as toxity or just another opinion. It's about choosing a mindset and if you can't handle views which go against everything you stand for then it suggests that either your own views aren't as secure as you think or you are intolerant.
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Post by West Acton on May 14, 2024 20:11:45 GMT
We got a nibble 😁
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Post by Corbray on May 14, 2024 20:13:13 GMT
didn't like our moneybags era either. fun fact, i was a chelsea fan until i was 10 after they were bought out by abramovich as my entire family bar my dad (who's fulham) are all chelsea. chose QPR as my club after that but by the time we started splashing the cash i was too deep in QPR and had more love for the club than i ever did growing up with chelsea. we've always been a buying and selling club and most clubs are. we used to sign players from lower league clubs, develop them and sell them on. the club you loved in the 80s and 90s were notorious for that and that past reputation is something i still like about our club. there's no moral high ground, we're talking about football here not the war in iraq lol. if you don't like, care or have anything insightful about the modern QPR then i don't get why you're even bothering to waste your time here as that's all you're doing at this point. how can you not celebrate this season? jimmy dunne's winner at birmingham, the 2-1 win away at leicester, 4-0 against leeds and the entire remarkable turnaround from the doldrums of gaz to marti's revolution. we're never going to be a top club but those are the moments fans live for and it makes the highs even more sweeter. thing is you've made your mind up, you're entitled to it if course but you've also become self grandiose because of it. you've built up such a negative thought process about QPR that you now want to see it fail - the very same club that you once so passionately supported. you're basically darth vader at this point. you pretend you don't care but you do, you wouldn't be wasting your time on this forum if you didn't. QPR takes up just as much time in your life as it does all of ours, except for you it's a wholey negative experience. you've even got bill the grumpy granddad of this forum calling you out on your toxicity about the club lol. Just want to correct you on two things... I don't recall ever expressing a desire to see 'QPR' fail. Secondly, you can see my posts as toxity or just another opinion. It's about choosing a mindset and if you can't handle views which go against everything you stand for then it suggests that either your own views aren't as secure as you think or you are intolerant. you're honestly deluded. everyone is telling you how difficult you are but rather than reflect, adjust and take part in a decent manner you just continue huffing your farts.
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Post by West Acton on May 14, 2024 20:15:09 GMT
Just want to correct you on two things... I don't recall ever expressing a desire to see 'QPR' fail. Secondly, you can see my posts as toxity or just another opinion. It's about choosing a mindset and if you can't handle views which go against everything you stand for then it suggests that either your own views aren't as secure as you think or you are intolerant. you're honestly deluded. everyone is telling you how difficult you are but rather than reflect, adjust and take part in a decent manner you just continue huffing your farts. you will get the stock answer now about debate message board etc zzzzz
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Post by acricketer on May 14, 2024 21:08:58 GMT
Off topic thread now?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2024 21:10:12 GMT
Just want to correct you on two things... I don't recall ever expressing a desire to see 'QPR' fail. Secondly, you can see my posts as toxity or just another opinion. It's about choosing a mindset and if you can't handle views which go against everything you stand for then it suggests that either your own views aren't as secure as you think or you are intolerant. you're honestly deluded. everyone is telling you how difficult you are but rather than reflect, adjust and take part in a decent manner you just continue huffing your farts. I've been polite but I can show you rude.. Fuck off you bender 👍
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Post by alanwycombe on May 14, 2024 21:20:48 GMT
Keyboard warrior. Time to crawl back under your stone.
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