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Post by itsonlyagame on Sept 20, 2023 7:23:35 GMT
Suppose it depends on the character of squad, some sides need a arm round shoulders others relate to a kick up the arse Plenty of leaders on the pitch these days so he can leave it to them, at least until they get red carded obviously. I see Cook having a firm word in Armstrongs ear on Saturday when it looked like Armstrong was starting to lose his shit. Good to see. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 20, 2023 7:24:54 GMT
Suppose it depends on the character of squad, some sides need a arm round shoulders others relate to a kick up the arse In our case, think it's the former again, but it's a problem area he's pinpointed from over the last couple of years and looks to have addressed with the Generals & Majors signings |
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Post by James1979 on Sept 20, 2023 7:50:03 GMT
No championship defence is going to be solid with Kakay in it. He switches off far too much. If JCS is fit, he should play. If he’s not fit, he shouldn’t be on the bench.
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Post by 1qprdk on Sept 20, 2023 7:55:02 GMT
Suppose it depends on the character of squad, some sides need a arm round shoulders others relate to a kick up the arse Plenty of leaders on the pitch these days so he can leave it to them, at least until they get red carded obviously. I see Cook having a firm word in Armstrongs ear on Saturday when it looked like Armstrong was starting to lose his shit. Good to see. Cook is brilliant in our team. Type of player we've been needing since Clint. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 20, 2023 8:39:36 GMT
I no fan of noddy but I notice he doesn’t throw team under bus. He always bigs them up in some way even when they dog. So think he knows confidence is zero and instead of adding more to it he tries to boost them . Other managers do it differently. Which way is right or wrong don’t know. Agree with this and it’s a viable reason why he does it. Problem is the players and fans will know it’s bollox so won’t hold any weight as everyone knows when a team plays shit. |
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Post by Corbray on Sept 20, 2023 12:12:22 GMT
what gaz says to the press and what he says in the dressing room are likely two very different things.
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Post by lymehoop on Sept 20, 2023 12:19:50 GMT
what gaz says to the press and what he says in the dressing room are likely two very different things. I hope so, I bloody hope so |
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Post by 1qprdk on Sept 20, 2023 13:36:30 GMT
I think the match yesterday shows what he has done for this group of players. Big difference in attitude compared to when he came in. Players were fighting and scrapping towards the end and earned a point because of that. Last season heads would have dropped instantly after the handball goal, and we would probably have conceded 2 more. I think he deserves some credit for that.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 20, 2023 14:07:53 GMT
I think the match yesterday shows what he has done for this group of players. Big difference in attitude compared to when he came in. Players were fighting and scrapping towards the end and earned a point because of that. Last season heads would have dropped instantly after the handball goal, and we would probably have conceded 2 more. I think he deserves some credit for that. He still shit mind |
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 23, 2023 15:37:36 GMT
under Gareth Ainsworth QPR have an appalling record I'm not convinced last season under Ainsworth is a fair or reasonable comparison to this season. Different squad, different circumstances, different priorities, putting out fires etc. Fairer perhaps to judge him from the off-season and start of this season since he's had a chance to build his own squad, ethos and playing style - all done on a shoestring budget. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 15:39:58 GMT
under Gareth Ainsworth QPR have an appalling record I'm not convinced last season under Ainsworth is a fair or reasonable comparison to this season. Different squad, different circumstances, different priorities, putting out fires etc. Fairer perhaps to judge him from the off-season and start of this season since he's had a chance to build his own squad, ethos and playing style - all on a shoestring budget. OK, let's take last season out but I'd argue that the best you can say about this one is that we have a poor record under him to be honest. |
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Post by Corbray on Sept 23, 2023 15:44:00 GMT
I'm not convinced last season under Ainsworth is a fair or reasonable comparison to this season. Different squad, different circumstances, different priorities, putting out fires etc. Fairer perhaps to judge him from the off-season and start of this season since he's had a chance to build his own squad, ethos and playing style - all on a shoestring budget. OK, let's take last season out but I'd argue that the best you can say about this one is that we have a poor record under him to be honest. still good performances. watford is a right off, he got it wrong against sunderland after the sending off but in every other game we were competitive and could have won them. we've played some good teams in that time too. most predictions have us finishing dead last but theres no way we will imo. i said at the start of the season that this season would either be a great one or a terrible one. great is open to interpretation but i could genuinely see us finishing in around the top half. i've seen enough to think that we'll be on fire once everything clicks |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 16:03:37 GMT
OK, let's take last season out but I'd argue that the best you can say about this one is that we have a poor record under him to be honest. still good performances. watford is a right off, he got it wrong against sunderland after the sending off but in every other game we were competitive and could have won them. we've played some good teams in that time too. most predictions have us finishing dead last but theres no way we will imo. i said at the start of the season that this season would either be a great one or a terrible one. great is open to interpretation but i could genuinely see us finishing in around the top half. i've seen enough to think that we'll be on fire once everything clicks If you genuinely believe that we will be pushing the top half of the table then I have to obviously give you credit for your unwavering optimistic outlook but, as you probably expect, question either your sanity or objectivity. This is a team who have been poor for most of the last 18 months and have been augmented by 'veteran' players who, it could be suggested, are only at QPR because we were the only club showing interest in them. I've read a few times after some matches this season that we played well but were 'unlucky'. That's a consistent factor in the majority of teams who get relegated. And are we really playing better than at other points in those 18 months - not including the short spell at the start of Beale's reign - or have we, as Ainsworth asked us to, lowered our expectation levels to accommodate his desire to see us a plucky, up-against-it outfit for who avoiding relegation would be a significant achievement? Fans often get irked when other fans and professional pundits can't see what they think they see and predict miserable seasons, but quite often the majority can see with unblinkered views and don't have an emotional attachment preventing them from stating reality. We are among the favourites to be relegated for good reason. |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 23, 2023 17:35:32 GMT
I’m happy give Gareth more rope and time but no way are we going finish top half.
Cant score goals, don’t create many opportunities means we will drop more points then we pick up. We have tightened up at the back but unless we score the other end most we’re walking away with is a point which will keep us in or around bottom half/clubs.
I suspect going on a run under Ainsworth will Maybe be 3/4 games undefeated with win a few draws. Cant see us going on a winning streak or long period undefeated.
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Post by Corbray on Sept 23, 2023 17:39:49 GMT
we haven't just been unlucky though, we've played well. good performances and player attitude is key.
i've watched every game bar the friendly cup and we genuinely don't look like a relegation contender. we look good, the players believe in the system and are getting used to it every game. heck, there's a marked difference now compared to when we first went with 3 at the back. past 2 games we've averaged 50% possession (or there abouts) including against swansea - a team that prefers holding onto the ball than actually scoring.
there are signs there and the players we've brought in are people that were needed probably for a long time.
model pro's who have always just got on with it, thats the kind of people you need in the dressing room for the more fragile and less confident players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 17:58:24 GMT
we haven't just been unlucky though, we've played well. good performances and player attitude is key. i've watched every game bar the friendly cup and we genuinely don't look like a relegation contender. we look good, the players believe in the system and are getting used to it every game. heck, there's a marked difference now compared to when we first went with 3 at the back. past 2 games we've averaged 50% possession (or there abouts) including against swansea - a team that prefers holding onto the ball than actually scoring. there are signs there and the players we've brought in are people that were needed probably for a long time. model pro's who have always just got on with it, thats the kind of people you need in the dressing room for the more fragile and less confident players. Playing well but not winning isn't a great thing. Playing badly but winning is. If we're the former we are in desperate trouble. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 23, 2023 21:35:13 GMT
we haven't just been unlucky though, we've played well. good performances and player attitude is key. i've watched every game bar the friendly cup and we genuinely don't look like a relegation contender. we look good, the players believe in the system and are getting used to it every game. heck, there's a marked difference now compared to when we first went with 3 at the back. past 2 games we've averaged 50% possession (or there abouts) including against swansea - a team that prefers holding onto the ball than actually scoring. there are signs there and the players we've brought in are people that were needed probably for a long time. model pro's who have always just got on with it, thats the kind of people you need in the dressing room for the more fragile and less confident players. Love the optimism and positivity Corbs but if you can’t score goals relegation contenders is exactly what you are. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 24, 2023 14:20:23 GMT
Football at its core is a simple game. Wins are a must if u want to achieve anything, draws ar ok but not many of them or u in the stuff like if u loosing a lot.
So I’m essence it’s all about winning by hook or crook
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Post by Bill on Sept 24, 2023 16:14:01 GMT
I’m happy give Gareth more rope and time but no way are we going finish top half. Cant score goals, don’t create many opportunities means we will drop more points then we pick up. We have tightened up at the back but unless we score the other end most we’re walking away with is a point which will keep us in or around bottom half/clubs. I suspect going on a run under Ainsworth will Maybe be 3/4 games undefeated with win a few draws. Cant see us going on a winning streak or long period undefeated. Im not full of shit tactically inept out of his depth and one of the poorest managers we have ever had. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 24, 2023 22:39:58 GMT
My tuppence worth.
Last season can’t be judged on. Place & team was a shambles.
This season he’s clearly got us playing more as a team, more aggressive and definitely leaving it all on the pitch. I didn’t see that last season.
His signings have pretty much been brilliant. Begovic, Cook, Colback, Fox are all quality additions and obviously their characters were more important than their abilities yet they’ve all started really well.
His hands are tied striker wise. Of course he’d want a striker so we can’t judge him on that.
Tactically I don’t think he’s amazing but he learned quick after Watford and our possession stats are improving.
For me under the circumstances and with a large amount of fans on his back I think he’s done very well. We are not going to make any waves in this league without goals we all know that but what he has brought is fight, grit, determination and a level of respect to our performances which I think should be applauded.
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Post by West Acton on Sept 26, 2023 18:12:03 GMT
Gaffer is on the panel tonight on sky for the cup games.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 26, 2023 18:41:20 GMT
Gaffer is on the panel tonight on sky for the cup games. did he get his hair done? |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 26, 2023 18:43:00 GMT
Gaffer is on the panel tonight on sky for the cup games. did he get his hair done? not sure but think he’s only got one shirt as exact same one he wears on match day. |
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Post by coneysboots on Sept 27, 2023 10:19:58 GMT
did he get his hair done? not sure but think he’s only got one shirt as exact same one he wears on match day. The one thats needs buttons sewing back onto it? |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 27, 2023 11:09:29 GMT
Can we crowd fund him a asos or like shopping trip. Otherwise he going look like bloody meatloaf by end of season
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 27, 2023 15:28:02 GMT
Needs to wear much more bling
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Post by Bill on Sept 28, 2023 23:27:36 GMT
My tuppence worth. Last season can’t be judged on. Place & team was a shambles. This season he’s clearly got us playing more as a team, more aggressive and definitely leaving it all on the pitch. I didn’t see that last season. His signings have pretty much been brilliant. Begovic, Cook, Colback, Fox are all quality additions and obviously their characters were more important than their abilities yet they’ve all started really well. His hands are tied striker wise. Of course he’d want a striker so we can’t judge him on that. Tactically I don’t think he’s amazing but he learned quick after Watford and our possession stats are improving. For me under the circumstances and with a large amount of fans on his back I think he’s done very well. We are not going to make any waves in this league without goals we all know that but what he has brought is fight, grit, determination and a level of respect to our performances which I think should be applauded. We dont need a striker his words Man is crazy |
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Post by West Acton on Sept 30, 2023 16:49:48 GMT
Reading on Twitter I would say it feels like he’s lost big chunk of fans today
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 30, 2023 16:53:08 GMT
Reading on Twitter I would say it feels like he’s lost big chunk of fans today Unfortunately I’m one of them. Have really wanted him to do well and I’ve seen a difference in the battling and fight in the team BUT that does not win you games exclusively. He’s proved to be tactically inept, slow to change things when it’s clear it’s turning against us and rolls out the same shite in interviews to try and remain positive which I get but I’d prefer some more honest / balanced opinions from him. Not asking him to slate players but show you’re fucking angry. Show a nasty side. My patience is wearing very thin and I can see a disastrous October coming up. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 30, 2023 16:54:56 GMT
It’s like getting the baggage handler to fly the jumbo
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