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Post by Tarbie on Aug 21, 2024 16:56:03 GMT
Les was really shit though Westy. I honestly don't believe he did anything other than show up on match days and occasionally talk to the press. I doubt he even had an office at HQ.
Whether Nourry turns out to be the answer or not remains to be seen. It's a bold appointment, he's extremely inexperienced.
He is completely the other end of the spectrum for us though. Out with the "old boys club" with years of experience in and around big football clubs. In with the new breed of football C-Level who utilises tech and advanced analytics.
In theory it should mean good times for us. But like you've alluded too, some people are a bit quick to praise before we've really seen any results.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 21, 2024 17:01:08 GMT
Should trust no one or anything, I mean that bloke trusted that someone had shut the hatches on his yacht, and people trust that it’s a unlucky coincidence that his partner got killed by a car in same country few days before.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 21, 2024 17:19:53 GMT
Nourry has spent the past half-decade as an advisor and consultant to some of the most significant ownership groups and football clubs worldwide, most recently in his capacity as Managing Partner for Europe of market-leading football data analytics and advisory business, RETEXO. Maybe this is why? But what has he achieved? he was apparently an instrumental part of the recruitment agency that we used to identify marti as a replacement for gaz. that proved to be a bit of a masterstroke as we all know so it did earn nourry a lot of deserved plaudits. the signings this season do on paper seem a lot more well thought out and in areas we've desperately needed to be improved, there's not that scattergun approach that we've had for the past few years imo. whether they turn out to be great remains to be seen but they do at least feel well reasoned. he's come in with a bit of ruthlessness to him. lots of dead wood has been cut adrift and new faces brought in, we were getting stagnant. we all know that and nourry has at least made efforts to try a different more ambitious approach. most of all though ... the previous board were dreadful. it's not hard to do a better job than the impractical jokers we had running the place before. we can all remember how sick and tired we were of that shit show lol. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 21, 2024 18:16:52 GMT
He has only been here two minutes so I just think we should give him a chance. He at least appears to be trying the right things - like buying players on data and not because he is a mate or someone has worked with him before. There's no guarantee it will work, but the same could be said of any new and inexperienced CEO. All I can say with confidence is that when Gareth was appointed I KNEW that was a backwards step in totally the wrong direction - it was so obvious - but at least we are now TRYING under Christian to do things the way most informed fans have wanted us to do for a long time. I am sure there will be flops in this crop of players but if you follow data and are open to new ideas you at least have a chance. Would we really rather go back to singing 34-year-old injury prone centre halves who are only interested in being here because they want to nosh off the manager?
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 18:33:28 GMT
So are we saying all these signings are data driven?
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 21, 2024 18:34:55 GMT
So are we saying all these signings are data driven? I'd assume so. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 21, 2024 18:43:08 GMT
So are we saying all these signings are data driven? Having spoken with Nourry a few times at meetings, I'd say it's a combination of data driven and scouting. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 18:48:07 GMT
Well i hope he knows what he is doing,otherwise we are going to be left with a lot of dross on our hands.
Replies include made a lot of money,apparently this,maybe that etc.
But no real facts.
Ive seen a lot of false dawns at this club so please forgive me for having my doubts.
If he is that good and successfull why come to us?
Just a thought.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 21, 2024 18:55:19 GMT
Well i hope he knows what he is doing,otherwise we are going to be left with a lot of dross on our hands. Replies include made a lot of money,apparently this,maybe that etc. But no real facts. Ive seen a lot of false dawns at this club so please forgive me for having my doubts. If he is that good and successfull why come to us? Just a thought. he's only 27 and afaik was the youngest CEO in the EFL when he came to us so it's pretty apparent that he came to us to showcase what he can do and that he has bigger ambitions than us. he's very well educated though and does have experience in football albeit not playing or running a club. natural to have doubts but personally i like what i've seen so far from nourry's short time, much needed changes and a different approach. aside from dembele i don't know much about our new signings but you have to admit there is an element of excitement to that lol. like, saito is more exciting of a name than smyth. saito might very well be a complete flop but it's the what ifs with these continental signings that are a bit alluring imo. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 21, 2024 18:59:26 GMT
If he is that good and successful why come to us? Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked how we sold the club to him. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some great potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 21, 2024 18:59:40 GMT
Well i hope he knows what he is doing,otherwise we are going to be left with a lot of dross on our hands. Replies include made a lot of money,apparently this,maybe that etc. But no real facts. Ive seen a lot of false dawns at this club so please forgive me for having my doubts. If he is that good and successfull why come to us? Just a thought. Well he is about 2-years-old so to be CEO of a Championship football club is a pretty good and high profile job. Obvious why he took the job. If he does well here, the sky is the limit for him. Of course its all "maybes" at this stage, as it would be with any CEO who has been here for 9 months or whatever it is. Scepticism is totally justified in a Rangers fan - as you say, we have seen so many disasters. But hopefully that scepticism is balanced with some support where it is due: Marti was apparently his recommendation, and no matter what else Marti achieves, he kept us up last season against all odds - that's a major, concrete achievement. A few other positive signings too - Dembele and Saito for example. Lots of fans amazed we pulled off the Dembele signing. But can any of us promise you that the likes of Heverton etc make it? Absolutely not, v early days and not all of them will make it. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 21, 2024 19:03:02 GMT
Well i hope he knows what he is doing,otherwise we are going to be left with a lot of dross on our hands. Replies include made a lot of money,apparently this,maybe that etc. But no real facts. Ive seen a lot of false dawns at this club so please forgive me for having my doubts. If he is that good and successfull why come to us? Just a thought. Leaving aside how good he is (or not) coming to us is perfect for him. Exactly the stepping stone he could handle - not too big but high profile enough to be worthwhile. We could benefit hugely if he is the real deal. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 19:03:59 GMT
If he is that good and successful why come to us? Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked what he heard. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some untapped potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. Stan,if he has been that successful at such a fairly young age,i have to question this. Unlike some i dont just buy that he is the best thing since sliced bread. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 19:05:53 GMT
Well i hope he knows what he is doing,otherwise we are going to be left with a lot of dross on our hands. Replies include made a lot of money,apparently this,maybe that etc. But no real facts. Ive seen a lot of false dawns at this club so please forgive me for having my doubts. If he is that good and successfull why come to us? Just a thought. Leaving aside how good he is (or not) coming to us is perfect for him. Exactly the stepping stone he could handle - not too big but high profile enough to be worthwhile. We could benefit hugely if he is the real deal. There we go "if he is the real deal" |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 21, 2024 19:13:24 GMT
Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked what he heard. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some untapped potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. Stan,if he has been that successful at such a fairly young age,i have to question this. Unlike some i dont just buy that he is the best thing since sliced bread. Bill, his CV is there for all to see - warts and all, as Hal alluded to. And is it not a straw man argument that fans have hailed him "the best thing since sliced bread"? At least on here (I'm not on X, Facebook etc). As Stains and others have said, at this relatively early stage, I'm also willing to at least give him a chance before casting too much judgement either way. |
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Post by Corbray on Aug 21, 2024 19:17:28 GMT
Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked what he heard. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some untapped potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. Stan,if he has been that successful at such a fairly young age,i have to question this. Unlike some i dont just buy that he is the best thing since sliced bread. he has evidently been successful at a young age. he has worked for some huge clubs like real madrid and roma for example and was a top manager at the previous company he worked for that we ended up poaching him from. he hasn't been here that long but i think everyone can see that he has made an impact on the club already. just a case of letting him show what he can do, stains already pointed out that nourry is responsible for bringing marti in which is a big feather in his cap. this season will be the real test for him though and the opportunity for him to show what he can do with a club in his hands. he's ambitious, personally i don't think he will be the next jim gregory as those types aren't really in football anymore sadly. nourry will be the first of a new wave of CEO's imo. he likely has loftier ambitions than us and is hoping to go to a bigger club than ours eventually but if his tenure is transformative and productive then that's great. just give him time bill and enjoy the positive vibes around the club and let's see what happens. we're no man city but we have potential and hopefully nourry can unlock that. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 21, 2024 19:18:06 GMT
Leaving aside how good he is (or not) coming to us is perfect for him. Exactly the stepping stone he could handle - not too big but high profile enough to be worthwhile. We could benefit hugely if he is the real deal. There we go "if he is the real deal" I don't really know what you are expecting Bill? We aren't going to get a CEO who has won the Champions League. We tried a fairly experienced CEO in Hoos and tbh he gave me every impression he couldn't be arsed with a lot of the detail of running a football club. So now we are going for someone with promise and energy. He might be brilliant, he might fall flat. Don't think anyone is saying he is the best thing since sliced bread. A lot of us are simply saying he is clearly intelligent, in his short time here he has done one or two very positive things, but also that it is far too early to judge him completely. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Aug 21, 2024 19:25:21 GMT
If he is that good and successful why come to us? Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked how we sold the club to him. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some great potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. Exactly. High enough profile to get noticed, historical London club with a real chance to do some good and turn its fortunes around. I struggle to think why he wouldn’t want to come to rangers |
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 19:27:36 GMT
Clearly i have ruffled a few feathers,so i will say no more.
The proof will be in the pudding.
Like leighsy i dont trust anyone.Time will tell.
Boris Johnson among others had a good education.
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 19:35:24 GMT
There we go "if he is the real deal" I don't really know what you are expecting Bill? We aren't going to get a CEO who has won the Champions League. We tried a fairly experienced CEO in Hoos and tbh he gave me every impression he couldn't be arsed with a lot of the detail of running a football club. So now we are going for someone with promise and energy. He might be brilliant, he might fall flat. Don't think anyone is saying he is the best thing since sliced bread. A lot of us are simply saying he is clearly intelligent, in his short time here he has done one or two very positive things, but also that it is far too early to judge him completely. Not expecting anything just questioning his appointment and some things that dont add up for me. If you like some others want to go with the crowd fair enough,but i dont. I am entitled to my opinion and observations. I havent judged him but reserve the right to wait for him to prove me wrong. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 21, 2024 19:37:47 GMT
Well why NOT come to us? Maybe he liked how we sold the club to him. Maybe he liked what we offered. Maybe he saw some great potential in us. Or maybe it's a combination of all those factors. Exactly. High enough profile to get noticed, historical London club with a real chance to do some good and turn its fortunes around. I struggle to think why he wouldn’t want to come to rangers Clearly for some he already had a high profile that is my point. |
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Post by The General on Aug 21, 2024 20:15:40 GMT
To be honest he is the first person to come in for 10 years and give me some hope for the club
Breath of fresh air compared to Les / Tony Fernandes total morons
Cannot and will not do any worse than those two awful nearly destroyed the whole football club
I like what he IS doing if i am honest signings lets wait and see they may be great
Slowly repairing the club from a sinking ship
I like the new QPR now those other morons have fucked off whatever division we are in
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 21, 2024 20:56:49 GMT
Clearly i have ruffled a few feathers... No feathers ruffled here Bill. It's all good debate. |
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Post by systemsguy on Aug 21, 2024 22:04:32 GMT
A QPR footballing legend wrote on X in late January...
A novice championship manager with a 26 year old CEO. Can’t make it up
In Marti and Christian we trust?
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 22, 2024 6:49:06 GMT
We’ve had an experienced man at the top - full of corporate bullshit - and anyone who wanted an old head as manager was dismissed as out of touch and ‘we don’t need a dinosaur’………so we’ve got what many wanted, a foreign coach and a stats man. Brentford R Us.
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Post by jfrabbit on Aug 22, 2024 7:15:04 GMT
A QPR footballing legend wrote on X in late January... A novice championship manager with a 26 year old CEO. Can’t make it up In Marti and Christian we trust? Gallen? He's always digging QPR out, I suspect at the way his brother was treated. He still loves a freebie in C club most games though  |
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Post by James1979 on Aug 22, 2024 7:59:14 GMT
A QPR footballing legend wrote on X in late January... A novice championship manager with a 26 year old CEO. Can’t make it up In Marti and Christian we trust? Think with Nourry, some don’t like him because he’s young and posh. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 22, 2024 8:01:53 GMT
A QPR footballing legend wrote on X in late January... A novice championship manager with a 26 year old CEO. Can’t make it up In Marti and Christian we trust? Think with Nourry, some don’t like him because he’s young and posh.  |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 22, 2024 8:27:41 GMT
We’ve had an experienced man at the top - full of corporate bullshit - and anyone who wanted an old head as manager was dismissed as out of touch and ‘we don’t need a dinosaur’………so we’ve got what many wanted, a foreign coach and a stats man. Brentford R Us. Exactly - my only complaint is we should have done this at least 5 years ago, if not 10! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2024 8:41:31 GMT
Should trust no one or anything, I mean that bloke trusted that someone had shut the hatches on his yacht, and people trust that it’s a unlucky coincidence that his partner got killed by a car in same country few days before. Not football but we shouldn't trust rumour or false information either. His partner was killed in a crash in Cambridge in the UK not Italy. Rumours of how the yacht sank are just that. Possible some windows /doors /hatches were open. Possible crew ignored or did not look at weather warnings, possible that the keel was retracted making it less stable, possible it got hit by winds up to 200 mph. Possible the captain did not switch on the engines to keep the yacht facing into the wind instead of side on. Only time will tell. Why did 15 people make it into an inflatable life boat if it all happened in 60 seconds in violent seas without warning. Back to the original question Bill raised. Firstly Nourry does have experience, maybe not identical but enough for his position. Why should we trust him - why should we not trust him. Last season he got in the manager we needed and the loan players who kept us up. He engineered us through probably our toughest financial challenge in modern times. Since then he has brought in young talent and cleared out the dross. Some may not like the players we have signed, and some of those players will probably not work out as well as we would like but the club has changed direction for the better. It is amazing how in the UK people doing a good job get built up in the press nd social media and as soon as they achieve anything or start to get near the top they become targets to knock down. Nourry will not be with us for that long. We are clearly a stepping stone in his career plan. But that means he will be doing everything he can to get things right and that is why we have to trust him. The people not to trust are the ones who have been around and are just in for a pay-off. |
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