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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 4, 2024 9:49:12 GMT
Still keep 50 as a target. Any lower is welcome bonus.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 4, 2024 9:54:19 GMT
Think 50 points is little bit over egged. Usually 43/44 keeps you up most seasons. Comfortably.
50 points only been needed twice in last 10/12 years I seem to remember.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 4, 2024 11:18:08 GMT
Think 50 points is little bit over egged. Usually 43/44 keeps you up most seasons. Comfortably. 50 points only been needed twice in last 10/12 years I seem to remember. Would agree around 43/44 might do it. Haven't done the maths but if we simply maintained the points per game ratio we have achieved under Marti to date until the end of the season I reckon we would be fairly close to 50 points in any case. And given that our six game form table looks better than our 10 game one (ie we are improving) and given we have possibly strengthened better than some others, it is (whisper it) starting to look much more optimistic... |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 4, 2024 11:23:01 GMT
It was that dreadful 6 game period between mid-Dec to mid-Jan that really buggered us.
But 2 wins and a draw from the last 3 games is very encouraging, along with these vital new signings.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 4, 2024 11:30:17 GMT
It was that dreadful 6 game period between mid-Dec to mid-Jan that really buggered us. But 2 wins and a draw from the last 3 games is very encouraging, along with these vital new signings. Very true. As fans we focus on our terrible run but other teams are having them too. Blackburn haven't won since early December and you can image what being beaten (and outplayed) by the team third from bottom must do for their morale. Stoke are having a stinker. Bristol City aren't really talked about but if they don't turn their form around they will start dropping like a rock, never mind a stone. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 4, 2024 11:34:16 GMT
I would guess Swansea with a novice manager look most likely to be amongst the mosh pit of relegation.
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Post by Shania on Feb 4, 2024 11:37:02 GMT
To be fair, at this point in time, I`m more worried about Huddersfield and their resilience than points needed. With such a limited squad and without a mangager yesterday`s convincing win against Sheffield wed. was impressive.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 4, 2024 11:41:00 GMT
It's that old adage - focus on yourself first and foremost and the rest will take care of itself.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Feb 11, 2024 17:04:02 GMT
I believe 49 points will be enough so we would need 20 points. That's 1,3 per game and is mid-table form.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 11, 2024 18:52:51 GMT
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Post by Hitman34 on Feb 11, 2024 19:17:03 GMT
got to be going for 9 points next 3 games.
the only game that concerns me, is rotherham. those pricks always manage to get a draw against us it seems.
lets see them and stoke off and have a good crack at bristol city on saturday
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 11, 2024 19:28:26 GMT
Like the new avatar Hits! 😄
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 12, 2024 10:34:41 GMT
For any fan on here still questioning if we are making progress or if it is fast enough, take a look at these stats I nicked off Loft for Words.
Over the last four games we have gained the following number of points on our relegation rivals:
8 points over Stoke
7 points over Rotherham and Millwall
5 points over Swansea
4 points over Sheffield Wednesday, Blackburn and Birmingham
3 points over Bristol City and Huddersfield
If we could keep up that rate of progress we would finish about 14th. We don't need to put ourselves under the pressure of expecting 9 points from 3 games. Mixture of wins and draws would be more than enough, but don't underestimate how hard that is for ANYONE down the bottom to achieve.
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 12, 2024 13:06:29 GMT
15 games to go. Form based on last 6 games.  |
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Post by The General on Feb 12, 2024 13:30:07 GMT
We need to beat Stoke
And minimum draw at Brizzle
4 from 6 needed important week
Wont shave or wash again
Make sure my knob is pointing to the right
Always put my right shoe on first
Wont look at score until 45 mins
Then at 80 mins
Not superstitious though 👍🤣🤣🤣
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 12, 2024 13:38:55 GMT
Our last 15 games.
Wed 14 Feb A Stoke City
Sat 17 Feb A Bristol City
Sat 24 Feb H Rotherham
Sat 2 Mar A Leicester City
Wed 6 Mar H West Bromwich Albion
Sat 9 Mar H Middlesbrough
Sat 16 Mar A Sunderland
Fri 29 Mar H Birmingham City
Mon 1 Apr A Swansea City
Sat 6 Apr H Sheffield Wednesday
Tue 9 Apr A Plymouth Argyle
Sat 13 Apr A Hull City
Sat 20 Apr H Preston North End
Sat 27 Apr H Leeds United
Sat 4 May A Coventry City
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 12, 2024 13:42:08 GMT
Our last 15 games. Wed 14 Feb A Stoke City Sat 17 Feb A Bristol City Sat 24 Feb H Rotherham Sat 2 Mar A Leicester City Wed 6 Mar H West Bromwich Albion Sat 9 Mar H Middlesbrough Sat 16 Mar A Sunderland Fri 29 Mar H Birmingham City Mon 1 Apr A Swansea City Sat 6 Apr H Sheffield Wednesday Tue 9 Apr A Plymouth Argyle Sat 13 Apr A Hull City Sat 20 Apr H Preston North End Sat 27 Apr H Leeds United Sat 4 May A Coventry City All of March bar the last game of the month looks very tough. Important we get max value out of the next three games, ideally 7, hopefully at least 5. And are out of the bottom 3 before the month is out! |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 12, 2024 13:57:45 GMT
That's a lot of points left to battle over. 45 in total. I try and look at things simply where possible and all I know is, on our day, we can compete with anyone in this division. #GoingIntoBattle |
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Post by sparks on Feb 12, 2024 14:19:47 GMT
The more stats that compare how bad we were to the ‘ if we carry on in the same vein’ I keep seeing being posted makes me more nervous that we might actually run out of games before stepping clear.
The mindset of Cook and Salter determine what type of stance we take up in a game and there’s no denying that it’s been not what Marti has wanted when we go ahead.
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Post by James1979 on Feb 12, 2024 16:15:42 GMT
We don’t need to beat Stoke. It’s a game we can’t afford to lose. But a draw is fine.
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2024 16:27:07 GMT
We don’t need to beat Stoke. It’s a game we can’t afford to lose. But a draw is fine. if we beat Stoke lifts some pressure for Bristol. |
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Post by James1979 on Feb 12, 2024 16:29:31 GMT
We don’t need to beat Stoke. It’s a game we can’t afford to lose. But a draw is fine. if we beat Stoke lifts some pressure for Bristol. Don’t get me wrong mate, I’d love and hope we do beat Stoke. But let’s not go crazy if we don’t win. A draw be Bristol Isn’t bad either. We just keep accumulating points. Remaining unbeaten, builds confidence and we get new players more match fit. We can win any game apart from Leicester away I’d say. |
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 12, 2024 17:50:33 GMT
If key players can just stay fit, I think we have a better than evens chance of staying up.
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Post by The General on Feb 12, 2024 18:23:29 GMT
We don’t need to beat Stoke. It’s a game we can’t afford to lose. But a draw is fine. Don’t agree with this mate We are in the bottom three a draw Keeps us in the bottom three eg relegated Get wot your saying though |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 12, 2024 18:24:54 GMT
in hindsight thr draw at norwich was a massive result. games mean so much more for the playoff and relegation battling sides at this stage in the season and norwich were only a point off the playoffs going into the game on saturday. we more than held our own and were the better team for large spells of the game, we held them off for the most part but 2 moments of poor defending cost us.
we don't look like a relegation threatened side imo. all we have to do is keep playing the way we're playing and we'll work our way out of the bottom 3.
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Post by The General on Feb 12, 2024 20:28:12 GMT
in hindsight thr draw at norwich was a massive result. games mean so much more for the playoff and relegation battling sides at this stage in the season and norwich were only a point off the playoffs going into the game on saturday. we more than held our own and were the better team for large spells of the game, we held them off for the most part but 2 moments of poor defending cost us. we don't look like a relegation threatened side imo. all we have to do is keep playing the way we're playing and we'll work our way out of the bottom 3. Agree |
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Post by West Acton on Feb 12, 2024 20:34:24 GMT
And Huddersfield I would say that point even bigger given how late it came.
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 13, 2024 16:27:13 GMT
Nervously twiddling thumbs and spreadsheets now...
For no good reason I've broken down the last 15 games into blocks of 3 matches and attached points targets to them. Even achieving the minimum acceptable targets would give us 45 points, which could very well be enough to stay up.
Wed 14 Feb A Stoke City
Sat 17 Feb A Bristol City
Sat 24 Feb H Rotherham
Target: 7
Min acceptable: 4
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Sat 2 Mar A Leicester City
Wed 6 Mar H West Bromwich Albion
Sat 9 Mar H Middlesbrough
Target: 4
Min acceptable: 2
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Sat 16 Mar A Sunderland
Fri 29 Mar H Birmingham City
Mon 1 Apr A Swansea City
Target: 5
Min acceptable: 3
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Sat 6 Apr H Sheffield Wednesday
Tue 9 Apr A Plymouth Argyle
Sat 13 Apr A Hull City
Target: 6
Min acceptable: 4
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Sat 20 Apr H Preston North End
Sat 27 Apr H Leeds United
Sat 4 May A Coventry City
Target: 5
Min acceptable: 3
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Total target points: 27, making 56 points in total
Total minimum acceptable points: 16, making 45 points in total
Total form guide points - 20, making 49 points in total
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Post by 2Loftus on Feb 14, 2024 22:34:27 GMT
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Post by Norfolk Ranger on Feb 14, 2024 23:03:29 GMT
It doesn't matter how many points we need,we aren't going to get them. Totally had it with this lot now.
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