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Post by Greg1882 on Jun 24, 2019 18:22:49 GMT
Hang on sky sports get it wrong on a daily basis? I think I’d rather trust the word of a journo that at least has some sort of success rate with the club over the column filler that is sky sports. If he’s saying we’ve turned down 4 then we’ve turned down 4. Sky sports are very often so far wide of the mark you can’t actually see the mark You telling me Dave Mac never gets it wrong mate? 🤣 I'll give you one example. Dave Mac: "There is nothing to this story about about Ravel Morrison returning to QPR on loan". The QPR Official site 5 minutes later: "Ravel Morrison returns to QPR on loan". No not at all mate I personally don’t like Dave mac and think he comes across as a bit of a bellend but he’s right more often than not and is closet linked with the club. Sky sports literally write anything and everything. Just watch transfer deadline day, it’s bullshit story after bullshit story |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:25:19 GMT
Hits. I never renewed based on knowing this was in the offing and will do my away days with my lads. Like the mid 90's when we sold and sold until there was nothing left to sell and where did we end up? This has this same feel as back then, As for the Scottish lads I know that Wallace was highly rated by the Rangers fans and the keeper not sure about. The other one we were linked with Holt is pony according to a pal who is an Ibrox ST holder. Love QPR dislike the ownership and that has and will never change.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 24, 2019 18:30:47 GMT
Hits, 73. Neither of you have mentioned Barbet though! 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:35:35 GMT
Stanley. He looks to be a good signing at the back for sure, All the guys being muted at being sold are attacking players which will leave us with younger players and remember what happened after we sold Les? Started with Dichio and Gallen then panicked and brought Hateley in on crutches and eventually got relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:55:24 GMT
Hits. I never renewed based on knowing this was in the offing and will do my away days with my lads. Like the mid 90's when we sold and sold until there was nothing left to sell and where did we end up? This has this same feel as back then, As for the Scottish lads I know that Wallace was highly rated by the Rangers fans and the keeper not sure about. The other one we were linked with Holt is pony according to a pal who is an Ibrox ST holder. Love QPR dislike the ownership and that has and will never change. The keeper was highly rated at Ibrox. Only left as he was having to play second fiddle to that ex-Hull City goalkeeper (another Scot). Wallace has barely played for a couple of years after he was involved in trying to rebel against one of their managers. Highly rated before all of that though. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 24, 2019 20:13:40 GMT
Freeman is worth about 5/6mil not anymore. We were never going get 10mil for an inconsistent player. I like Freeman and would prefer he stayed but he promises more then he actually delivers
If we’re offered 5/6mil take it
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 26, 2019 10:09:28 GMT
IMO - £13m for potential should mean that clubs should be paying at least half that for someone who has performed consistently well at this level. Certainly more than £4m and I'm glad to see QPR have rejected that offer. Sorry mate, I just don't agree. 2 and half years ago we got Freeman for 300k, and nobody else at Championship level was in for him. Of course he's come on a little bit since then, but what has he really done to justify being touted around as an 7-10m quid player? I don't even agree with your point about him being a consistent performer. He blows hot and cold, went totally missing last season when we were having a bad spell and needed our best players to step up a bit. I never said anything about being £10m player, but would certainly think we could get £6-7m for him at the least. IMO my point stands that £4m is a joke. As for justifying that fee...he was involved in (either scored or assisted) 17 goals last season and 18 goals the season before. Say what you want about blowing hot and cold, the bloke is a top performer in this division and will be an asset for any of those promoted sides. It's clear we aren't going to agree on this so I'll draw the line and simply say anything less than £6m for Freeman and we have had our pants pulled down.....as usual. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 10:20:39 GMT
Sorry mate, I just don't agree. 2 and half years ago we got Freeman for 300k, and nobody else at Championship level was in for him. Of course he's come on a little bit since then, but what has he really done to justify being touted around as an 7-10m quid player? I don't even agree with your point about him being a consistent performer. He blows hot and cold, went totally missing last season when we were having a bad spell and needed our best players to step up a bit. I never said anything about being £10m player, but would certainly think we could get £6-7m for him at the least. IMO my point stands that £4m is a joke. As for justifying that fee...he was involved in (either scored or assisted) 17 goals last season and 18 goals the season before. Say what you want about blowing hot and cold, the bloke is a top performer in this division and will be an asset for any of those promoted sides. It's clear we aren't going to agree on this so I'll draw the line and simply say anything less than £6m for Freeman and we have had our pants pulled down.....as usual. I think this is the difference between me and a lot of other fans though mate. I have already reasoned it away with myself that we are likely to get our pants pulled down in the transfer market more often than not. Every club and agent out there knows our financial problems, and probably will more or less know when we are in a position where we need to sell (as is the case this window). To be fair, we've done it ourselves to enough clubs over the years. This is football. It's an open market and when a club is in a situation where they have little bargaining power they will be exploited. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 26, 2019 11:19:22 GMT
Tarbs you congratulated the club earlier for playing hardball on rejecting the 4m offer. Maybe that suggests our financial situation isn't as bad as some are saying and we're now in a position to not get exploited by default. Hard lessons now learnt and obviously staying within FFP, P&S rules etc.
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 11:35:11 GMT
Tarbs you congratulated the club earlier for playing hardball on rejecting the 4m offer. Maybe that suggests our financial situation isn't as bad as some are saying and we're now in a position to not get exploited by default... Have a look at what those close to the club are saying mate. Dave Mac actually went into a fair bit of detail about this on his Twitter this week. Check tweets and replies and you will see him pointing out that we definitely need to sell and this is why we won't get top dollar for Freeman. It also all ties with with what I've heard on the grapevine. To meet our FFP requirements, even with the out of contract players dropping off the payroll, we need to find a fair few quid. Around 5m was the number I heard. The above is also backed up pretty well if you look at our last accounts, deduct the parachute payments and make some educated guesses of what the out of contract players were earning. If Dave Mac is aware of this then I'm sure 90 odd percent of the football agents and club owners in the country are as well! |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 26, 2019 11:51:32 GMT
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 28, 2019 17:57:03 GMT
People on Facebook saying Freeman has gone.
4mil plus add ons is the rumour.
Anyone on here know anything?
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 1, 2019 17:10:55 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jul 1, 2019 17:22:57 GMT
Hold up thought we sold him week ago to them for 3mil and we had meltdown saying how crap Les was. I can’t keep up 😁
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 1, 2019 17:23:49 GMT
6m quid would be a really good return for Freeman in my opinion. Should also free up some genuine transfer funds for Warburton to spend too!
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 1, 2019 17:26:16 GMT
Hold up thought we sold him week ago to them for 3mil and we had meltdown saying how crap Les was. I can’t keep up 😁 That was just Sky getting it wrong as usual about the £3m when local press reported we'd rejected a £4m bid. £6m is about right if this is true. Anything less is taking the piss. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 1, 2019 17:26:20 GMT
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 1, 2019 17:26:43 GMT
6m quid would be a really good return for Freeman in my opinion. Should also free up some genuine transfer funds for Warburton to spend too! doubt he will see more than a couple of hundred grand to spend out of 6mil. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 1, 2019 17:30:10 GMT
Hold up thought we sold him week ago to them for 3mil and we had meltdown saying how crap Les was. I can’t keep up 😁 That was just Sky getting it wrong as usual about the £3m when local press reported we'd rejected a £4m bid. £6m is about right if this is true. Anything less is taking the piss. i k ow Stan but I don’t get why fans read the click bait sites then turn on club and individuals for what is just speculation |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 1, 2019 17:35:07 GMT
i k ow Stan but I don’t get why fans read the click bait sites then turn on club and individuals for what is just speculation That was all regarding the protracted Luongo speculation Wests, but I yes agree with you in principle. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 2, 2019 7:13:37 GMT
Breaking news on Sky to be completed today
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Post by spongeparr on Jul 2, 2019 7:23:30 GMT
6 million is good. He is a good player but he would ruin counter attacks by hogging the ball for far too long. Enjoyed watching him but 6million is a good deal for the club. Good luck to him, but cannot see him doing too much in the prem.
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Post by artful on Jul 2, 2019 8:19:38 GMT
Totally agree with you spongeparr. I fully expect a total meltdown as fee will be announced as undisclosed therefore allowing negative speculation. Good bit of business as we got him for around £300k.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 8:26:34 GMT
He's our best player when on his game so I can't agree it's good business but it is what it is.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jul 2, 2019 8:51:05 GMT
I'd be happy with £6m, well done the board if it is that. As long as we reinvest it in a couple of strikers
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Post by West Acton on Jul 2, 2019 9:00:35 GMT
Reckon Alan Judge will be his replacement
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Post by spongeparr on Jul 2, 2019 9:51:08 GMT
He's our best player when on his game so I can't agree it's good business but it is what it is. What value would you find acceptable for him? He probably is our best individual, can win us a game on his own. |
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Post by spongeparr on Jul 2, 2019 9:51:23 GMT
Reckon Alan Judge will be his replacement More of a midfielder isn't he? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 11:05:21 GMT
He's our best player when on his game so I can't agree it's good business but it is what it is. What value would you find acceptable for him? He probably is our best individual, can win us a game on his own. Probably 8 at a minimum when you compare with what other players go for when moving from champs to the prem. Sounds like this one will be done today and on the subject of sheff united they've also got ravel Morrison training with them. Would be interesting to see how he gets on if they decide to sign him. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 2, 2019 11:16:57 GMT
Always rated Ravel would have him back if there was a chance
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