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Post by West Acton on Jun 22, 2019 13:48:50 GMT
Can only sell if people want what we have. Im not sure anyone is in demand
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 22, 2019 13:53:42 GMT
Can only sell if people want what we have. Im not sure anyone is in demand Nail on head mate! |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jun 22, 2019 22:46:12 GMT
Can only sell if people want what we have. Im not sure anyone is in demand Freeman should attract interest for sure. That's probably about it. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jun 23, 2019 7:41:50 GMT
So... in overall summary, our players are worthless and we'd be lucky to have other clubs take them off our hands but if we aren't pushing for promotion this season then there is something rotten at the club? ;-)
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Post by 1qprdk on Jun 23, 2019 7:55:45 GMT
So... in overall summary, our players are worthless and we'd be lucky to have other clubs take them off our hands but if we aren't pushing for promotion this season then there is something rotten at the club? ;-) That's about the gist of it, yes. |
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Post by West Acton on Jun 23, 2019 8:03:50 GMT
I’m sure we have players of interest to others just think our opinion and value of them differs staggeringly to what others outside of club think hence why we got what we did for Smithies and what we will get for freeman
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 23, 2019 11:47:28 GMT
So... in overall summary, our players are worthless and we'd be lucky to have other clubs take them off our hands but if we aren't pushing for promotion this season then there is something rotten at the club? ;-) Not at all mate. In my opinion it's pretty unlikely that we'll be in the mix for play offs next season. Also not saying our players our worthless. Only that we are in a position of very little bargaining power. And at this moment in time, we don't have any players in the squad capable of playing regularly at a higher level. Unfortunately, with the effect of FFP on Championship clubs this means we're not gonna get big fees for anyone. Those saying Freeman is worth 8-10m are living in the past. No Championship club has that to spend this window, and Freeman isn't good enough for the Prem. |
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Post by awin on Jun 23, 2019 19:17:19 GMT
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 24, 2019 9:29:22 GMT
Yeah we need the money but if Lloyd Kelly goes from Bristol City to Bournemouth for £13m then we should surely be demanding more than £4m for Luke Freeman from ANY club in the PL.
We'll get our pants pulled down on selling him.....as usual
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Post by Corbray on Jun 24, 2019 10:24:06 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 11:31:13 GMT
Yeah we need the money but if Lloyd Kelly goes from Bristol City to Bournemouth for £13m then we should surely be demanding more than £4m for Luke Freeman from ANY club in the PL. We'll get our pants pulled down on selling him.....as usual Lloyd Kelly is 20 years old, he has the potential to improve and play at the highest level. As such, any club buying him will be looking at a.) can he do a job for us now, and b.) can we make a profit on him when we eventually sell him on? Freeman is 27 and is probably about as good now as he's ever going to be. Can't really compare the 2. Also, Bristol City are a well run club that have done very well at living within their means in recent years. As such, they probably don't have the same pressures that we do to sell in order to balance the books. They have bargaining power, whereas we don't! |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 11:32:28 GMT
Good news if true. I'm sure he will still go this window, but fair play to the club for holding out for as much as they can get. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 24, 2019 11:58:05 GMT
Some common sense at last.
would accept nothing less than 7mil.
sheffield utd can easily offord that if they really want him.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 12:25:34 GMT
Some common sense at last. would accept nothing less than 7mil. sheffield utd can easily offord that if they really want him. I agree. And I'm glad that release clause thing was a rumour and nothing more. |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jun 24, 2019 14:01:14 GMT
Yeah we need the money but if Lloyd Kelly goes from Bristol City to Bournemouth for £13m then we should surely be demanding more than £4m for Luke Freeman from ANY club in the PL. We'll get our pants pulled down on selling him.....as usual Lloyd Kelly is 20 years old, he has the potential to improve and play at the highest level. As such, any club buying him will be looking at a.) can he do a job for us now, and b.) can we make a profit on him when we eventually sell him on? Freeman is 27 and is probably about as good now as he's ever going to be. Can't really compare the 2. IMO - £13m for potential should mean that clubs should be paying at least half that for someone who has performed consistently well at this level. Certainly more than £4m and I'm glad to see QPR have rejected that offer. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jun 24, 2019 14:41:31 GMT
Sky just put on their site that he's going to Sheffield United for £3m.
Bullshit surely?
Why would we reject a £4m offer only to accept £3m?
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 14:45:07 GMT
Lloyd Kelly is 20 years old, he has the potential to improve and play at the highest level. As such, any club buying him will be looking at a.) can he do a job for us now, and b.) can we make a profit on him when we eventually sell him on? Freeman is 27 and is probably about as good now as he's ever going to be. Can't really compare the 2. IMO - £13m for potential should mean that clubs should be paying at least half that for someone who has performed consistently well at this level. Certainly more than £4m and I'm glad to see QPR have rejected that offer. Sorry mate, I just don't agree. 2 and half years ago we got Freeman for 300k, and nobody else at Championship level was in for him. Of course he's come on a little bit since then, but what has he really done to justify being touted around as an 7-10m quid player? I don't even agree with your point about him being a consistent performer. He blows hot and cold, went totally missing last season when we were having a bad spell and needed our best players to step up a bit. |
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Post by Brian Wilson on Jun 24, 2019 15:25:21 GMT
Sky just put on their site that he's going to Sheffield United for £3m. Bullshit surely? Why would we reject a £4m offer only to accept £3m? We said no to 4 and they said right!!! you are only getting 3 then if you are gonna be like that about it. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 15:27:00 GMT
Sky just put on their site that he's going to Sheffield United for £3m. Bullshit surely? Why would we reject a £4m offer only to accept £3m? We said no to 4 and they said right!!! you are only getting 3 then if you are gonna be like that about it. More likely that Dave Mac got it wrong when he reported that we'd rejected a bid earlier today! |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 24, 2019 16:10:10 GMT
Reject 4mil, accept 3mil.... Gotta love bungle
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Post by The General on Jun 24, 2019 16:41:29 GMT
3 million if this is true I will go mental wtf have we learnt nothing it cannot be can it.
Our best player is worth double that 6 million easy.
Need to tweet Tony to get some answers if this is true he needs his head read
Farking joke
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Post by The General on Jun 24, 2019 16:42:55 GMT
#Bungle Park Rangers
#Queens Patk Discount
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Post by Greg1882 on Jun 24, 2019 16:51:06 GMT
Hang on sky sports get it wrong on a daily basis? I think I’d rather trust the word of a journo that at least has some sort of success rate with the club over the column filler that is sky sports. If he’s saying we’ve turned down 4 then we’ve turned down 4. Sky sports are very often so far wide of the mark you can’t actually see the mark
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Post by Corbray on Jun 24, 2019 16:55:36 GMT
tony's accepting 3m for freeman coz saying we made a 10 fold profit on freeman is easier than saying we made 13.3x the profit on him.
#doingthesimplethingsright
#pintsareontonynextyear
#holtisbetter
#6mcombinedforsmithiesandfreeman
#hashtag
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Post by hubble on Jun 24, 2019 16:56:17 GMT
Maybe it was a typo and it's £30M?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jun 24, 2019 16:58:37 GMT
fair play to the club for holding out for as much as they can get. Perhaps it's because they can finally afford to now. Great news if so. Hang on sky sports get it wrong on a daily basis? I think I’d rather trust the word of a journo that at least has some sort of success rate with the club over the column filler that is sky sports. If he’s saying we’ve turned down 4 then we’ve turned down 4. Sky sports are very often so far wide of the mark you can’t actually see the mark This. Turning down 4m is far more likely and believable. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jun 24, 2019 17:49:03 GMT
Hang on sky sports get it wrong on a daily basis? I think I’d rather trust the word of a journo that at least has some sort of success rate with the club over the column filler that is sky sports. If he’s saying we’ve turned down 4 then we’ve turned down 4. Sky sports are very often so far wide of the mark you can’t actually see the mark You telling me Dave Mac never gets it wrong mate? 🤣 I'll give you one example. Dave Mac: "There is nothing to this story about about Ravel Morrison returning to QPR on loan". The QPR Official site 5 minutes later: "Ravel Morrison returns to QPR on loan". |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 24, 2019 18:01:22 GMT
#Bungle Park Rangers #Queens Patk Discount Pissing myself at your second hashtag... That is quality. We are the charity club. We give millions to mercenaries, give away our stadium rights for free, now our best players for peanuts. Pull your trousers up bungle, you are a complete and utterly inept clown. No1 bozo of the whole English league. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2019 18:12:41 GMT
Cannot say I am suprised by the fee bearing in mind our recent track record. Warburton will be working under the same conditions as McClaren so cannot expect miracles from him and the lads that have come in. The cupboard is getting bare and at some point something will have to give.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jun 24, 2019 18:19:21 GMT
Cannot say I am suprised by the fee bearing in mind our recent track record. Warburton will be working under the same conditions as McClaren so cannot expect miracles from him and the lads that have come in. The cupboard is getting bare and at some point something will have to give. On a serious note, you are spot on 73. Slowly but surely, the club are looking to get rid of the likes of Luongo and freeman, most likely with eze and lumley to follow. They will be and have been replaced by cheap, Scottish league tat. Really feel for you guys that shelled out another small fortune on season tickets. I bow to your loyalty, I really do. I fear this window will be the straw that broke the camels back. |
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