Žan Celar

yup. obviously today was frustrating and most of us are guilty of labeling the team and players as awful when we're a bit grumpy. heck, i was watching celar today and in the heat of the moment thinking i'd rather have kelman up top.

we've all been demanding someone who knows where the back of the net is and that's what celar is but he's no rooney so can't exactly do it by himself. the signings we're bringing in, dembele especially, fill me with a tremendous amount of confidence. we're gunna have one heck of a front line once everyone is bedded in and up to speed.

some of the players we're bringing in are arguably 'too big' for little ol QPR which is a testament to the work being done.

looking at the league it's one of the most competitive ones in years, i can't think of the last time there's been this many dark horses for the playoffs. everyone has strengthened.

many of us were predicting us to finish around 11th and tbh that's where i think we will finish which is a step in the right direction compared to past seasons.

Dykes got zero service too!

He makes runs but we do not have a player in midfield who passes the ball foward and quickly. Not a prayer today with the line up we had

Very true, in fact service to our strikers has been pretty non-existent for a long time but the Donkey debate goes much further. He falls short in so many ways, it’s not just about lack of service.

Chair , Varane and service = wins

* we rarely beat WBA , there further along than us!

The coaching staff didn't tbh mate. Les did.

Also we’re comparing four years with a league debut. Let’s give him a few games.

Thought he was shit against Brighton and shit yesterday - just a ghost. So that is a concern.


That said the most effective, predatory striker I have ever seen in a QPR shirt by some distance was Clive Allen. He did nothing really - except score goals. Obvs not comparing Celar to a legend like that but I will reserve judgement until (as Stanley says) he gets some service then we can judge if he is any good.

Clive Allen was in a really good side - ALL he had to do was put it away😂….. but he did.

If he continues not scoring then you are right. Think point some others were making is that often goal finishers don’t do much but score and for that you need service. If you are not a natural finisher - Helguson, Heskey - you can still be an effective striker by bringing others into play, holding the ball up etc. The frustration with Dykes is he isn’t a natural finisher so to earn a place in the team he really needs to do all the stuff that Helguson did. But he doesn’t - and as he doesn’t score either he really is a waste of a shirt. Simply from the clips I’ve seen of Celar he looks more the predator/ finisher type. So let’s judge him once he has had a few chances laid on for him. If he can’t put them away then for sure he needs to be judged accordingly

As we didn't press collectively yesterday, it wasn`t an easy task he was handed on a debut.

Well he might put 18 goals away we don’t know yet.

If he doesn’t look on track to score about 12 goals or more would agree there isn’t much point to him - for all his limitations Frey at least puts himself about and would be a better option.

But let’s give Celar 6/8 games first - he at least MIGHT turn into something useful

3-5-2 would make more sense than 4-4-2 for me. But if we were doing that, we wouldn't have sent Larkeche out on loan.

Sticking to the idea of giving him a few games to be fair but I am worried. If this is the new way of buying based on stats then ‘computer says no’. (You could probably say that about all our new boys at the moment) Last night he comes on against poor opposition and doesn’t impose himself, just looks and plays exactly like Donkey. Frey, not that good and much less mobile than either of them, is always hassling defenders. I hope he works out but first impressions usually mean something.