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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 22, 2024 4:48:52 GMT
I'm sorry but bringing him on in the 93rd minute was fucking embarrassing.
What can you expect the guy to do in 120 seconds?!
We were piss poor for the whole game, if you're going to change a striker do it on 60 or 70 minutes to give them a chance of doing something.
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Žan Celar
Sept 22, 2024 16:47:15 GMT
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Post by 1973ranger on Sept 22, 2024 16:47:15 GMT
I'm sorry but bringing him on in the 93rd minute was fucking embarrassing. What can you expect the guy to do in 120 seconds?! We were piss poor for the whole game, if you're going to change a striker do it on 60 or 70 minutes to give them a chance of doing something. Ridiculous to bring him at all. Should have been on with 15 to 20 minutes to go.
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Žan Celar
Sept 22, 2024 18:30:39 GMT
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Post by jfrabbit on Sept 22, 2024 18:30:39 GMT
I'm sorry but bringing him on in the 93rd minute was fucking embarrassing. What can you expect the guy to do in 120 seconds?! We were piss poor for the whole game, if you're going to change a striker do it on 60 or 70 minutes to give them a chance of doing something. Ridiculous to bring him at all. Should have been on with 15 to 20 minutes to go. Yea that's what I said mate 😂
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Žan Celar
Oct 1, 2024 21:17:01 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Oct 1, 2024 21:17:01 GMT
I know people will say give time etc but this guy is pony
We have not only had our pants pulled down but they have asked us to step out of them, they have then taken a massive runny shit before our eyes made us watch them wipe the pants in the turd then stuffed them in our mouth. He’s that bad
Looks like type of player unless it’s given to him on a plate he won’t score.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 1, 2024 21:21:37 GMT
Agree with your very descriptive assessment of the situation Westy. The guy is a turd. A wet, runny turd that creeps up on you when you least expect it, whilst you're also wearing a pair of white shorts.
As bad a striker I've seen here in a very long time.
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Žan Celar
Oct 1, 2024 21:23:45 GMT
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Oct 1, 2024 21:23:45 GMT
Another Alessandro Pellicori. Completely fucking useless.
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Žan Celar
Oct 1, 2024 21:26:15 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 1, 2024 21:26:15 GMT
Another Alessandro Pellicori. Completely fucking useless. At least we knew Pellicori was a turd when we signed him. This guy cost us a packet and was meant to be decent.
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Žan Celar
Oct 1, 2024 21:28:16 GMT
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Post by alanwycombe on Oct 1, 2024 21:28:16 GMT
Stats don’t lie apparently
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 1, 2024 21:51:23 GMT
We have not only had our pants pulled down but they have asked us to step out of them, they have then taken a massive runny shit before our eyes made us watch them wipe the pants in the turd then stuffed them in our mouth. He’s that bad Too many scatological metaphors for my taste there mate 😅
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Žan Celar
Oct 1, 2024 22:03:16 GMT
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 1, 2024 22:03:16 GMT
In fairness to the blank faced fella, he had an OK first fifteen minutes. So much so I thought he was a ringer.
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Post by hubble on Oct 1, 2024 23:27:58 GMT
He's not a 100 page long thread striker, that's for sure.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 2, 2024 1:30:48 GMT
He's not a 100 page long thread striker, that's for sure. I'm thinking 200 pages for this fella.
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Post by Hitman34 on Oct 2, 2024 6:55:56 GMT
He looks absolutely dreadful.
Just hope he somehow improves.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 2, 2024 9:40:52 GMT
looked woeful so far, sadly. looked ok at best for the first ten minutes after he came on but was anonymous after that. he's certainly not a hold up type player that's for sure but i feel like he'd maybe be a decent striker in a different system.
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Žan Celar
Oct 2, 2024 20:04:11 GMT
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Post by hubble on Oct 2, 2024 20:04:11 GMT
Crazy idea, but why not play 2 up front? Celar clearly needs to play with another striker. 442 could work better with this squad anyway.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 2, 2024 20:09:25 GMT
Crazy idea, but why not play 2 up front? Celar clearly needs to play with another striker. 442 could work better with this squad anyway. That's been discussed a lot on other threads Hubs. My comments there, fwiw: Will never happen under a continental coach like Marti Hell would freeze over before Marti would do that (from the off)
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Post by James1979 on Oct 2, 2024 20:09:48 GMT
He was ok for 15 minutes or so. I don’t think he could have done anything with that header as ball was too high. Still Willing to give him and new lads more time. The big concern is how piss weak we are and get bullied. We don’t address that, then we will go down.
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 3, 2024 3:53:41 GMT
Looks so poor and really needs to get stuck in to create a mistake out of a defender to get his first goal which who knows may spur him on, but on what we've seen he looks awful.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2024 5:54:00 GMT
I thought he looked awful for the full 45mins James. Token jumping for headers without really trying to challenge, lacklustre closing down, no hold up play and no bringing any others into the game. If he had not been on the pitch I don’t think we would have even noticed.
As for two up top not sure I would change formation just to try and fit in a player who has shown absolutely nothing so far that’s quite a big thing to do which this player has not earned. Also how many sides play two up top? Two up top today leaves you one less defending, two men stood up top waiting for an attack has sadly gone in todays football.
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Post by Tarbie on Oct 3, 2024 7:16:01 GMT
Agree Westy.
What worries me most is he doesn't do the basics well. It's not just an issue with form. The bloke doesn't know what he should be doing half the time.
It's actually a fairly similar situation to Dykes, but at least he put it about a bit and could hold the ball up. Celar doesn't even offer that, he brings literally zero to the team from what I've seen so far.
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Post by hubble on Oct 3, 2024 7:49:04 GMT
Agree Westy. What worries me most is he doesn't do the basics well. It's not just an issue with form. The bloke doesn't know what he should be doing half the time. It's actually a fairly similar situation to Dykes, but at least he put it about a bit and could hold the ball up. Celar doesn't even offer that, he brings literally zero to the team from what I've seen so far. It has actually come to this: he's worse than Dykes!
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Post by Corbray on Oct 3, 2024 8:40:45 GMT
could easily play a 4231/442 hybrid type formation with celar and frey switching between AM and striker roles depending on the situation.
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Post by hubble on Oct 3, 2024 8:41:54 GMT
could easily play a 4231/442 hybrid type formation with celar and frey switching between AM and striker roles depending on the situation. Isn't this what Unai Emery does at Villa? It's working quite well for them!
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Post by West Acton on Oct 3, 2024 8:54:00 GMT
could easily play a 4231/442 hybrid type formation with celar and frey switching between AM and striker roles depending on the situation. I get that but for me you need players capable of playing that agile way I don’t see Frey or Celar being capable of playing or have attributes of AM role. It’s a bit Holloway fitting people into roles that don’t suit them.
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Post by Corbray on Oct 3, 2024 8:59:33 GMT
could easily play a 4231/442 hybrid type formation with celar and frey switching between AM and striker roles depending on the situation. I get that but for me you need players capable of playing that agile way I don’t see Frey or Celar being capable of playing or have attributes of AM role. It’s a bit Holloway fitting people into roles that don’t suit them. absolutely, neither one is a traditional AM but what i mean is to adapt that AM role to them depending on the situation, more of a second striker type of thing. if we need to go direct then have frey drop deeper into that hole and hopefully flick it on to celar to run onto. if we need to pass it about a bit then celar can drop deeper to receive the ball and pass it about. there both strikers just being asked to cover slightly more of the pitch between them rather than being out and out AM's.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Oct 3, 2024 9:00:34 GMT
Don't want to get on his back. Share the frustrations but as a fanbase think we have some responsibility to build players up. Strikers more than any other position thrive on confidence. I slightly fear on current trajectory he will become the new Dykes in the eyes of the fanbase. A scruffy goal and he might suddenly be up and running. At the moment whoever plays up front is completely isolated. I don't quite understand how because the three attacking midfielders are also miles away from the two defensive midfielders, but they don't support the striker at all.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 3, 2024 9:24:59 GMT
Played well for first 10-15 mins on Tues, so there is something there and is why I’ve not given up on him yet. Get the frustrations but it’s still early days for him.
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Post by Bill on Oct 4, 2024 16:07:15 GMT
Another pile of shit.
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Post by Stanley75 on Oct 22, 2024 21:46:10 GMT
I say this with all sincerity but I would legit rather see Dykes up top than Celar. He offers absolutely zero. he’s trying put himself about but he’s clearly a box player only so he’s fucked in this side. Smyth whipped in two balls into box 2nd half. Why wasn't he busting a gut to get on the end of them? He never even ran. I recall one run he made 2nd half from a through ball and that was it.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 22, 2024 21:48:54 GMT
Looks like an automaton. Thinks the ball has to come to him. Wanders around slowly looking like an idiot savant. Get rid.
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