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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 9, 2024 13:42:43 GMT
I think he'll walk after the transfer window closes to be honest. What makes you think that? Would be disastrous for his career to do that. Not if he tells the world what a basket case the club is and how he had to leave to save his career.
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Post by BrightonR on Jan 9, 2024 13:45:32 GMT
Joey Barton liked him ! I seem to recall how glowingly he spoke after Ramsey had sent them out with a plan during a pre-match warm up.😂
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Post by loneranger80 on Jan 9, 2024 14:10:34 GMT
Followed by a few others..... who will be next?....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 14:30:16 GMT
Followed by a few others..... who will be next?.... Hopefully Paul Hall and Andy Impey. Time to rid the club entirely of people Les brought in or kept in jobs because of non football reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 14:31:52 GMT
What makes you think that? Would be disastrous for his career to do that. Not if he tells the world what a basket case the club is and how he had to leave to save his career. I think it is very possible he walks and heads back to Sweden in time for when their season starts in April.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 9, 2024 14:56:32 GMT
I think he'll walk after the transfer window closes to be honest. What makes you think that? Would be disastrous for his career to do that. It would be for sure. I don't know, maybe it's my ingrained cynicism from years of supporting this damn club. Marti is clearly a good manager that's probably been promised more than he's getting right now. I just wouldn't be surprised if he went.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 9, 2024 15:23:46 GMT
Genuine question.
Why do people think it would be disastrous for his career or he wouldn’t do it because he’s on a contract and would lose money?
Do you not think this man could potentially have what is called some self-respect and pride and if he has been fed some bullshit about what may or may not be available and he has to work with the shit he has then I see no other option for the man than to walk away.
He will not want to have this relegation on his CV or on his watch when he has had 99% nothing to do with it.
We’ve heard rumours before from managers that things are not as they were promised to be.
I think this man has integrity and decency and it’s clear he’s a bloody good coach so he will have no problem getting a new job.
My opinion though not of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 15:32:28 GMT
Genuine question. Why do people think it would be disastrous for his career or he wouldn’t do it because he’s on a contract and would lose money? Do you not think this man could potentially have what is called some self-respect and pride and if he has been fed some bullshit about what may or may not be available and he has to work with the shit he has then I see no other option for the man than to walk away. He will not want to have this relegation on his CV or on his watch when he has had 99% nothing to do with it. We’ve heard rumours before from managers that things are not as they were promised to be. I think this man has integrity and decency and it’s clear he’s a bloody good coach so he will have no problem getting a new job. My opinion though not of course. He's another Michael Beale in the manner he sees us as a stepping stone in his career. If his career is likely to stagnate or fall back as a consequence of being associated with our imminent relegation and we can't offer funds to support an immediate return he will walk. He's not here because it's his lifetime dream to manage QPR...
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 9, 2024 15:42:07 GMT
Every single player or manager who comes to this club, does it as a stepping stone.
That’s no secret.
We are not a big draw or a big catch so I would have no issue with anyone coming here to be a stepping stone.
Unfortunately it’s where we are as a club.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 15:49:22 GMT
Every single player or manager who comes to this club, does it as a stepping stone. That’s no secret. We are not a big draw or a big catch so I would have no issue with anyone coming here to be a stepping stone. Unfortunately it’s where we are as a club. I've always said that if it's any player’s or Manager's ambition to play or manage QPR then they are the wrong person for us. We need both to have ambitions of playing for and managing of Man Utd and such ilkbut knowing they've got to get it right here if they are to have any chance. Anyone who is reached the peak of his career by playing for or managing us is no good for us if we are to progress as a club.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Jan 9, 2024 15:52:40 GMT
Every single player or manager who comes to this club, does it as a stepping stone. That’s no secret. We are not a big draw or a big catch so I would have no issue with anyone coming here to be a stepping stone. Unfortunately it’s where we are as a club. Agree and actually that should be good for us. Unlike some opposite experiences we had with Wright-Phillips and some other players during that time. Ainsworth too.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 9, 2024 16:38:50 GMT
Every single player or manager who comes to this club, does it as a stepping stone.
That’s no secret. We are not a big draw or a big catch so I would have no issue with anyone coming here to be a stepping stone. Unfortunately it’s where we are as a club. Don't think that's so regarding most of our managers since Colin. In my view: Warnock - no Hughes - yes (that worked out well...) Redknapp - cheque book, full stop Ramsey - no JFH - probably Ollie - no McClaren - no (maybe a stepping stone to part-ownership) Warbs - no Beale - yes Critchley - no Ainsworth - no Marti - probably
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Post by Corbray on Jan 9, 2024 16:55:29 GMT
i've no issue with any player or manager seeing us as a stepping stone so long as they treat us with respect and we get good value for them on and off the pitch.
eze is a prime example, absolute baller, never kicked up a fuss, most entertaining player we've had since adel and netted us a good wedge. he'd outgrown the club and was ready to step up and thats ok and in line with our roots. i've heard many stories from older fans about the players we developed in the 80s and 90s who went on to achieve great things. for me personally there's something nice about seeing an eze taking his babysteps into pro football and making something of himself.
same goes for marti, realistically i'd love nothing more than for him to be poached from us by a much bigger club as it means he's given us a good few years of success and has left us in a good spot.
people like that eel prick can go choke on an urchin though.
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Post by Shania on Jan 9, 2024 17:43:45 GMT
Rumour is that a 10 points deduction is incoming. Rumour is being discussed on WATRB now. Sure this must be wrong?
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2024 17:57:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 17:59:15 GMT
Rumour is that a 10 points deduction is incoming. Rumour is being discussed on WATRB now. Sure this must be wrong? Would be the final nail in the coffin of this season...
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 9, 2024 18:18:07 GMT
Rumour is that a 10 points deduction is incoming. Rumour is being discussed on WATRB now. Sure this must be wrong? Would be the final nail in the coffin of this season... At least you could dance on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:20:41 GMT
'That’s right he went on trial to West Ham who liked what they saw but were apparently quoted around 500k and didn’t follow up with it' Not quite the saga Mr Kolli presents... seems they chose against going for him rather than a huge battle which may turn out to be a mistake, of course...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 18:21:49 GMT
Would be the final nail in the coffin of this season... At least you could dance on it. Will you play a tambourine as I do so I can keep rythem?
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 9, 2024 18:31:38 GMT
Someone is taking the piss. That’s a statement released not a personal letter.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Jan 9, 2024 18:48:48 GMT
I’m guessing due to various age groups being at different venues in the past we employed more staff. New training ground always signalled a turnover of some staff, with some having different titles but similar football responsibilities. Alex Carrol currently has the title of academy director but has no real record of ever being a coach, yet is still responsible for overseeing our young players performances and placement out on loan. It’s easy to think our recent set up has always been a bit ad-hock and just thrown together at times. Just so many bodies at the club. Never even heard of this guy (Carrol not Sparks). Someone pointed out our headcount compared to Millwall's and it was unbelievable. Surely the job you describe there should have been part of Ramsay's duties?
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Post by BrightonR on Jan 9, 2024 19:04:24 GMT
Someone is taking the piss. That’s a statement released not a personal letter. I thought it was quite funny that it mentioned, hopefully over the next 24 years, we may see the fruits of his labour. 😂 I guess patience is a virtue.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 10, 2024 9:54:50 GMT
“QPR are getting a coach who is ready for the next step. One with a background in academy coaching who wants to develop players. "We must always look to the academy first," he says. At Hammarby, he brought the average age of the side down from 28 to 24.”
From Sky interview. Interesting comment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 10:18:11 GMT
“QPR are getting a coach who is ready for the next step. One with a background in academy coaching who wants to develop players. "We must always look to the academy first," he says. At Hammarby, he brought the average age of the side down from 28 to 24.” From Sky interview. Interesting comment. Interesting but that still very much sounds like they're laying the path for Manisha Tailor...
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Post by sparks on Jan 10, 2024 11:23:23 GMT
I’m guessing due to various age groups being at different venues in the past we employed more staff. New training ground always signalled a turnover of some staff, with some having different titles but similar football responsibilities. Alex Carrol currently has the title of academy director but has no real record of ever being a coach, yet is still responsible for overseeing our young players performances and placement out on loan. It’s easy to think our recent set up has always been a bit ad-hock and just thrown together at times. Just so many bodies at the club. Never even heard of this guy (Carrol not Sparks). Someone pointed out our headcount compared to Millwall's and it was unbelievable. Surely the job you describe there should have been part of Ramsay's duties? Bit more about Carroll and the academy in this podcast. rss.com/podcasts/pure10/1033283/ Interested to hear that that there are 2 metrics that the academy success is being judged on. 1) Cost 2) How many make their 1st team debut over a 3 yr period.
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 10, 2024 11:43:14 GMT
Some attention-seeking Twatter account is saying we're about to be docked 10 points for non-payment of the next instalment of our FFP fine.
He says we can't afford it and that the board have accepted the points deduction and relegation and that Marti 'may walk'.
Personally think it's a pile of click-bait crap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 13:08:09 GMT
Some attention-seeking Twatter account is saying we're about to be docked 10 points for non-payment of the next instalment of our FFP fine. He says we can't afford it and that the board have accepted the points deduction and relegation and that Marti 'may walk'. Personally think it's a pile of click-bait crap. It does appear to be absolute bollocks but one thing I would point out is that all those on Twitter and LFW who are saying its not true because the FFP fine is not taken into account for expenditure have clearly not read the claim as its nothing to do with that but non payment of fine which wouldn't need accounts to be provided to generate the deduction...
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Post by Corbray on Jan 10, 2024 13:20:00 GMT
twitter ITK blokes are mostly bollocks. although there was that one guy from 18 months ago who got a few things right but also loved to gloat about being ITK.
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 10, 2024 13:22:48 GMT
Just to give it some context the Twitter bloke picked it up from watrb, the same poster said we were signing Danny ings……
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Post by West Acton on Jan 10, 2024 14:01:24 GMT
twitter ITK blokes are mostly bollocks. although there was that one guy from 18 months ago who got a few things right but also loved to gloat about being ITK. #roderick
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