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Post by Tarbie on Jul 10, 2019 9:01:00 GMT
What do we reckon for the coming season? Still the BFG, or maybe someone else?
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Post by Joe90 on Jul 10, 2019 9:24:26 GMT
Angel Rangel.
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 10, 2019 9:31:52 GMT
BFG and Rangel are the only possible candidates. Rangel is more vocal and influential around the squad, so he'd definitely be my choice.
If Geoffrey returns, he'd be another strong candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 9:35:52 GMT
BFG and Rangel are the only possible candidates. Rangel is more vocal and influential, so he'd definitely be my choice. If Geoffrey returns, he'd be another strong consideration. Wasn't Wallace captain at 'Gers? Good to have nearly half the outfield team made up of leaders. (Before he was banished of course) |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 10, 2019 9:35:55 GMT
My thoughts too mate. Geoff Cameron is also another option if he is returning as expected. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 10, 2019 9:39:21 GMT
Wasn't Wallace captain at 'Gers? Good to have nearly half the outfield team made up of leaders. Possibly a bit early for him to be given the armband, but a fair shout too Old Bean. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jul 10, 2019 9:59:35 GMT
Wallace I should think.
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Post by West Acton on Jul 10, 2019 10:04:56 GMT
I think other than coin toss the captains role is redundant in modern football
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 10:22:45 GMT
Wasn't Wallace captain at 'Gers? Good to have nearly half the outfield team made up of leaders. Possibly a bit early for him to be given the armband, but a fair shout too Old Bean. Not saying give him the armband but more the fact we've got quite a few leaders in the team 👍 |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 10, 2019 10:29:55 GMT
i think BFG should keep the armband.
if not him then tbh i wouldn't even be oppossed to lumley getting it. he's from our academy, is very vocal and a natural leader anyway and excemplifies what we're trying to build at the club
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 10, 2019 10:58:01 GMT
i think BFG should keep the armband. if not him then tbh i wouldn't even be oppossed to lumley getting it. he's from our academy, is very vocal and a natural leader anyway and excemplifies what we're trying to build at the club I hate seeing the keeper as captain. How are you meant to influence the game from all the way back there? |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 10, 2019 11:11:22 GMT
i think BFG should keep the armband. if not him then tbh i wouldn't even be oppossed to lumley getting it. he's from our academy, is very vocal and a natural leader anyway and excemplifies what we're trying to build at the club I hate seeing the keeper as captain. How are you meant to influence the game from all the way back there? i don't think its as bad as it seems, there's been tonnes of goalkeepers who've captained clubs and their countries to great success like zoff, casillas and buffon etc. my main reason for suggesting lumley, aside from his vocals at the back is that he's from our academy so has a greater connection to the club than most other players. the only other first teamer from our academy is furlong but he's probably not ready for it. imo captains need to be passionate about their club and proffessional too. i wasn't sold on leistner as captain when he was appointed initially simply coz i think its weird when a new signing is made captain but he did well and deserves it for next season |
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 10, 2019 11:20:21 GMT
Agreed on Leistner mate. Hasn't done anything wrong to deserve to lose the captaincy. What I will say though is at the games I attended last season, Rangel and Cameron actually seemed to be calling the shots, organising etc. on the pitch.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 10, 2019 11:30:44 GMT
MAGA Geoff, if he comes back. Failing that Angel. BFG isn't a captain.
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Post by Rangers77 on Jul 10, 2019 11:31:48 GMT
I think other than coin toss the captains role is redundant in modern football Yep. But Clint was a captain......😍 |
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jul 10, 2019 11:43:25 GMT
Would it disrupt some of the squad to make someone else captain ? BIG call if it does happen.
BFG leads by example IMO. Will run through walls to win.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jul 10, 2019 14:12:29 GMT
At a time when Chief was the captain, and getting pelters because he didn't shout and scream at players like Joey did, I took a bit of interest in seeing who was doing what on the pitch regarding leadership etc. A surprise for me was just how much Tjarron Chery acted like a captain on the field, organising the pre match huddles, going round to all the players before the kick off, shouting encouragement throughout the game and advising players around him at various times. He wasn't a shouter and screamer either but I am certain he isn't alone in that respect nowadays. It's a shame that we had him during a turbulent period.
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Post by Hitman34 on Jul 10, 2019 16:25:42 GMT
Bfg or furlong
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 10, 2019 20:44:07 GMT
I think other than coin toss the captains role is redundant in modern football I think Klopp might beg to differ. Jordan Henderson was absolutely outstanding last year as a player and as skipper. Ask any of em up there, they like Henderson in the trenches even if there are arguably more naturally talented players covering that spot. Unless you have a side where from 1 to 11 they're prepared to put in the hard yards for 90m and never let heads go down, you need a skipper. I agree that in rugby and cricket the role is more important, but it still matters in football. What maybe harder these days is finding someone of the right caliber. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 11, 2019 5:57:14 GMT
Do you think Henderson would have played any differently without the armband? Or did he just play as he did as that’s his way
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 11, 2019 6:34:05 GMT
Do you think Henderson would have played any differently without the armband? Or did he just play as he did as that’s his way I think teams need leaders mate. Whether this is achieved by having a number of senior pro's that take on the responsibility of rallying the troops (much like us last season before Rangel and Cameron got injured), or by having 1 main individual running things (Terry at Chelsea, Gerrard at Liverpool etc.). Aside from that, I think the club captain has become more of a media role where they speak to the press on behalf of the team etc. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 11, 2019 6:54:22 GMT
Totally agree they do. But you don’t have to have an armband on to be one. Again, like Henderson, when Terry was not england captain did he still play like a leader??
When Adel was captain did Derry and Hill play below themselves because they never had arm band, no they never as there character is to lead and give 100%.
Armband no more then a symbol now
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Post by hertshoops on Jul 11, 2019 9:45:12 GMT
Armband no more then a symbol now
Apart from that goal at Ipswich, he was definitely thieving a living
Think Florist took him off us on a free - whatever happened to him ?
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Post by Stanley75 on Jul 11, 2019 9:50:00 GMT
Totally agree they do. But you don’t have to have an armband on to be one. Again, like Henderson, when Terry was not england captain did he still play like a leader?? When Adel was captain did Derry and Hill play below themselves because they never had arm band, no they never as there character is to lead and give 100%. Armband no more then a symbol now Hasn't that always been the case though Wests? Would Bryan Robson have played below himself back in the day, regardless if he'd been captain or not? Ditto Gerry Francis, Emlyn Hughes, Billy Bremner etc. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jul 11, 2019 11:28:46 GMT
Totally agree they do. But you don’t have to have an armband on to be one. Again, like Henderson, when Terry was not england captain did he still play like a leader?? When Adel was captain did Derry and Hill play below themselves because they never had arm band, no they never as there character is to lead and give 100%. Armband no more then a symbol now Hasn't that always been the case though Wests? Would Bryan Robson have played below himself back in the day, regardless if he'd been captain or not? Ditto Gerry Francis, Emlyn Hughes, Billy Bremner etc. Exactly. The argument that they'd play as well without the armband is irrelevant, for the simple reason that you have to name a skipper. If you have a natural leader you may as well capitalise by making him skipper. When you look at legendary Brit sides - the invincibles, Liverpool, England 66 - they've achieved under an iconic skipper. In Italy Franco Baresi was of the same ilk, one of the great defenders, skippered them to a World Cup and the FIFA no 1 slot. |
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Post by West Acton on Jul 11, 2019 12:07:49 GMT
But I have no doubt all those things would have happened even if those teams had another captain
Agree to disagree on this one guys. Coin toss aside becoming more and more meaningless role
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Post by acricketer on Jul 11, 2019 12:28:37 GMT
I remember Beckham single handedly winning that qualifier v. Greece years ago. A captain's performance if ever there was one.
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Post by Tarbie on Jul 11, 2019 12:39:22 GMT
I remember Beckham single handedly winning that qualifier v. Greece years ago. A captain's performance if ever there was one. Ditto Gerrard in the Champions League final in Istanbul. |
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Post by Corbray on Jul 11, 2019 13:24:30 GMT
I remember Beckham single handedly winning that qualifier v. Greece years ago. A captain's performance if ever there was one. one of my favourite ever games for sure! i was only 8 at the time and was sitting right up to the TV with my family, my dad said that if beckham scored then he'd buy victoria's next album. when it went in we just went absolute nuts hahaha. i got a skinhead afterwards coz beckham became one of my heroes coz of that free kick. my dad never did buy any of her albums though |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 13:44:57 GMT
I remember Beckham single handedly winning that qualifier v. Greece years ago. A captain's performance if ever there was one. Draw 😉 |
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