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Post by Tarbie on May 17, 2021 17:26:18 GMT
Chaz for me. Different sort of captain, but he epitomises what we are about for in my opinion.
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Post by acricketer on May 17, 2021 18:33:28 GMT
Wallace for me. Experienced pro. Don't like forwards as captain, they tend to be a little more selfish and maybe don't see as big a picture of the game as a defender does.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 17, 2021 19:42:03 GMT
Wallace is already vice-captain so I think he'll be favourite. Bags of experience too.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 17, 2021 19:54:02 GMT
Poll added.
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Post by West Acton on May 17, 2021 20:41:36 GMT
When you listen to the Charlie Austin interview he could not have spoken higher of Wallace and says he leads dressing room. Said when Wallace speaks everyone shuts up
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Post by Tarbie on May 17, 2021 21:08:43 GMT
When you listen to the Charlie Austin interview he could not have spoken higher of Wallace and says he leads dressing room. Said when Wallace speaks everyone shuts up The only thing about selecting Wallace as captain is we will most likely need another new captain a year from now. I'd prefer we picked someone that we expect to be here for a few seasons at least.
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 17, 2021 21:57:09 GMT
I'd give it to Dickie or Barbet. Mainstays in the squad this season, leading from the back.
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Post by Tarbie on May 17, 2021 22:10:44 GMT
I'd give it to Dickie or Barbet. Mainstays in the squad this season, leading from the back. Not sure either of those 2 are particularly vocal.
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Post by rscot on May 17, 2021 22:31:11 GMT
De Wijs looks like he’d make a good captain, he’s got a bit of presence about him
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Post by 1qprdk on May 18, 2021 2:06:24 GMT
Said when Wallace speaks everyone shuts up Probably because you can´t understand a bloody word he says otherwise with that crazy accent
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Post by Tarbie on May 18, 2021 5:47:33 GMT
De Wijs looks like he’d make a good captain, he’s got a bit of presence about him I think you can see the difference when he plays. If you look at the stats for the last season, I believe we were far more likely to concede when 1 of De Wijs or Cameron wasn't playing. Barbet and Dickie are both very good players at this level, but you need someone vocal at the back pulling the strings. I think Cameron did that job very well for large parts of last season. I'm assuming Jordy will assume that role next season.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 18, 2021 8:13:26 GMT
I always think the keeper should be captain,forces them to be vocal and they can see everything on pitch from back
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Post by rscot on May 18, 2021 9:05:24 GMT
De Wijs looks like he’d make a good captain, he’s got a bit of presence about him I think you can see the difference when he plays. If you look at the stats for the last season, I believe we were far more likely to concede when 1 of De Wijs or Cameron wasn't playing. Barbet and Dickie are both very good players at this level, but you need someone vocal at the back pulling the strings. I think Cameron did that job very well for large parts of last season. I'm assuming Jordy will assume that role next season. Hopefully as all three train and play more often a better understanding will develop, making the defensive unit better and more effective. I think De Wijs would make a good captain.
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Post by rscot on May 18, 2021 9:07:40 GMT
I always think the keeper should be captain,forces them to be vocal and they can see everything on pitch from back I prefer a centre-halve or a central midfielder. But Seny wouldn’t be a bad choice either, if he has the personality for it. Sometimes it doesn’t suit someone being captain and being vocal.
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Post by awin on May 18, 2021 14:04:16 GMT
Was tough to choose between Dickie and Wallace. In the end Went for Dickie as he will play more games.
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Post by Corbray on May 18, 2021 14:12:20 GMT
went for barbet in the end so hes not left out but i'd be happy with wallace, dickie, austin or dieng even really.
first time in a while we've had some real options for captain
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Post by 72bus on May 18, 2021 15:31:50 GMT
Chas
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Post by Hitman34 on May 18, 2021 17:03:34 GMT
gone for barbet. has played every min this season and was captain at his previous club
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 19, 2021 9:08:28 GMT
Not a bad shout hits. He had a very good season I thought.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 19, 2021 11:22:10 GMT
Westy reckons the captain's role in the modern game is no more than a coin tosser.
Does this thread and poll suggests otherwise?
What are people's views on this subject and the importance of a captain?
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Post by Hitman34 on May 19, 2021 15:35:45 GMT
Not a bad shout hits. He had a very good season I thought. Fully agree mate. thought him and dickie were outstanding this season.
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Post by Tarbie on May 19, 2021 16:00:16 GMT
Westy reckons the captain's role in the modern game is no more than a coin tosser. Does this thread and poll suggests otherwise? What are people's views on this subject and the importance of a captain? Not for me mate. Needs to be more than that. In my opinion, you pick a guy that a.) inspires his team mates, b.) is pretty vocal/extroverted and c.) plays most games. Different types of captains though aren't there? You have your authoritarian, Roy Keane type leaders. Then you have the sort of Gareth Southgate type who leads by example. I don't think we have any Roy Keane types in the squad, but we've got plenty that can lead by example. I just favour Charlie cos he's such a club icon and he wears his heart on his sleeve.
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Post by Corbray on May 19, 2021 16:25:48 GMT
Westy reckons the captain's role in the modern game is no more than a coin tosser. Does this thread and poll suggests otherwise? What are people's views on this subject and the importance of a captain? i think its changed massively since the past. but so has football in general. back in the day the manager was the head honcho and chairman's were a lot more involved on a personal level. now teams have a whole host of supporting staff to streamline everything. captains have changed as well, they were the normally among the longest serving players and held considerable influence in the club along with being the guy to keep the players in line. i still think there are captains like that tbh but the role has changed and became less needed than before. even so i still think captains are neccesary, not only because of the tradition of it. we don't know what goes on in the dressing rooms etc and i imagine captains are as much the players' vote of confidence as they are the managers. i guess they do a lot of stuff behind the scenes to sort out inevitable player disputes, act as agony aunts and can be a go between between players and the manager for more touchy subjects. i don't think its an obsolete position in football tbh. just evolved as football has in general.
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Post by The General on May 19, 2021 18:31:50 GMT
Charlie boy for me
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Post by West Acton on May 19, 2021 19:41:39 GMT
Westy reckons the captain's role in the modern game is no more than a coin tosser. Does this thread and poll suggests otherwise? What are people's views on this subject and the importance of a captain? just don’t think you need an armband to lead. Derry was not captain but played and acted like one same Paul Ince Developing conversation what does a captain actually do nowadays? Aside from coin toss 😋
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Post by 1973ranger on May 19, 2021 19:53:45 GMT
Westy reckons the captain's role in the modern game is no more than a coin tosser. Does this thread and poll suggests otherwise? What are people's views on this subject and the importance of a captain? just don’t think you need an armband to lead. Derry was not captain but played and acted like one same Paul Ince Developing conversation what does a captain actually do nowadays? Aside from coin toss 😋 Someone like Grealish at Villa leads with his level of performance and what it means to him to play for his club. Henderson at Liverpool leads by being a bit more vocal on the pitch. The issue nowadays is not the role it is the people in them, Gone are the days of Keane, Adams, Terry and the like.
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Post by West Acton on May 19, 2021 20:28:09 GMT
just don’t think you need an armband to lead. Derry was not captain but played and acted like one same Paul Ince Developing conversation what does a captain actually do nowadays? Aside from coin toss 😋 Someone like Grealish at Villa leads with his level of performance and what it means to him to play for his club. Henderson at Liverpool leads by being a bit more vocal on the pitch. The issue nowadays is not the role it is the people in them, Gone are the days of Keane, Adams, Terry and the like. 100% with you 73 and that’s why personally don’t think you need armband do any of that. Really good examples above of players Henderson would drive team forwards way he does on pitch with or without being called captain
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Post by Stanley75 on May 19, 2021 20:58:01 GMT
Gone are the days of Keane, Adams, Terry and the like. Why is that though? What's happened to the strong characters of that ilk? Those types of leaders and players are sorely missed, and it's to the detriment of the British game imo. Not only were they tough leaders of men, but technically excellent too.
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Post by Tarbie on May 19, 2021 21:17:12 GMT
Gone are the days of Keane, Adams, Terry and the like. Why is that though? What's happened to the strong characters of that ilk? Those types of leaders and players are sorely missed, and it's to the detriment of the British game imo. Not only were they tough leaders of men, but technically excellent too. In my opinion this is not something that is specific to football. Generation snowflake don't respond well to a no nonsense leadership style. Most youngsters these days require a much softer approach. It's true in my industry too. When I was coming through the ranks we were exposed to very harsh environments where you were given little praise and exposed to many a raised voice. These days you need to motivate the youngsters coming through with a much more delicate and nurturing approach.
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Post by 1qprdk on May 19, 2021 21:43:28 GMT
detriment of the British game It´s the same all over the world, I think. Must be tough teaching kids anything these days.
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