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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 9:36:22 GMT
You also put your laces through it when playing into the wind. Same mistakes game after game with the goals being given away. Nothing learnt and no improvement begs the question. What do they work on in training?
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Post by hubble on Jan 12, 2020 9:41:22 GMT
I'd rather have Joanna At least she could play the pianner
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 9:48:32 GMT
Rob Green MK2
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 12:18:32 GMT
Watching welsh derby and Smithies kicking ball beyond half way line 😍
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 13:19:35 GMT
Absolute nonsense to blame Lumley for the 2nd goal...how experienced is Cameron !!? As for twitter abusers...all teenage wannabees who spend their nights wanking off to Babestation....ie..nomark cunts rubbish and this is our problem. We make to many mistakes. If he clears the ball too half way line like he should then they don’t attack and score. We are always scrambling in defence as we fail to do the first part of defending right He’s kicked the ball, trying to clear it up field same way he did at Fulham, to the opposition. It’s not hard being able to kick the ball, its the very least we should expect from a professional footballer taking home what 4K a week Totally baffled me why fans choose to try snd make excuses instead of just calling it as it is I am with you on this if he is shit say it......pc strikes again
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 12, 2020 13:49:24 GMT
Absolute nonsense to blame Lumley for the 2nd goal...how experienced is Cameron !!? As for twitter abusers...all teenage wannabees who spend their nights wanking off to Babestation....ie..nomark cunts rubbish and this is our problem. We make to many mistakes. If he clears the ball too half way line like he should then they don’t attack and score. We are always scrambling in defence as we fail to do the first part of defending right He’s kicked the ball, trying to clear it up field same way he did at Fulham, to the opposition. It’s not hard being able to kick the ball, its the very least we should expect from a professional footballer taking home what 4K a week Totally baffled me why fans choose to try snd make excuses instead of just calling it as it is And Cameron couldn't have done better in dealing with the ball played back from midfield ?
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 12, 2020 13:57:45 GMT
rubbish and this is our problem. We make to many mistakes. If he clears the ball too half way line like he should then they don’t attack and score. We are always scrambling in defence as we fail to do the first part of defending right He’s kicked the ball, trying to clear it up field same way he did at Fulham, to the opposition. It’s not hard being able to kick the ball, its the very least we should expect from a professional footballer taking home what 4K a week Totally baffled me why fans choose to try snd make excuses instead of just calling it as it is And Cameron couldn't have done better in dealing with the ball played back from midfield ? Wouldn't have had a problem to deal with if the keeper did the basics properly. Story of our season. Constantly putting ourselves under unnecessary pressure at the back!
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 14:11:36 GMT
rubbish and this is our problem. We make to many mistakes. If he clears the ball too half way line like he should then they don’t attack and score. We are always scrambling in defence as we fail to do the first part of defending right He’s kicked the ball, trying to clear it up field same way he did at Fulham, to the opposition. It’s not hard being able to kick the ball, its the very least we should expect from a professional footballer taking home what 4K a week Totally baffled me why fans choose to try snd make excuses instead of just calling it as it is And Cameron couldn't have done better in dealing with the ball played back from midfield ? I’m sure he could have but your making my point for me as if Lumley does his job then Cameron is not called upon, surely you can see that? Deal with the ball at source that’s the key
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Post by shepherdsmush on Jan 12, 2020 14:45:20 GMT
And Cameron couldn't have done better in dealing with the ball played back from midfield ? I’m sure he could have but your making my point for me as if Lumley does his job then Cameron is not called upon, surely you can see that? Deal with the ball at source that’s the key With our luck wherever that kick went it would have landed at a Brentford player and been back at our goal within a couple of touches anyway.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 15:08:29 GMT
I’m sure he could have but your making my point for me as if Lumley does his job then Cameron is not called upon, surely you can see that? Deal with the ball at source that’s the key With our luck wherever that kick went it would have landed at a Brentford player and been back at our goal within a couple of touches anyway. but he would have done his job then if ball comes back you look at others
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Post by 72bus on Jan 12, 2020 18:30:02 GMT
2nd goal 100% lumleys fault , bad kick then he stands by the post offering up the whole of his goal ..if he stood centrally would of saved it
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 12, 2020 18:36:56 GMT
Absolute nonsense to blame Lumley for the 2nd goal...how experienced is Cameron !!? As for twitter abusers...all teenage wannabees who spend their nights wanking off to Babestation....ie..nomark cunts rubbish and this is our problem. We make to many mistakes. If he clears the ball too half way line like he should then they don’t attack and score. We are always scrambling in defence as we fail to do the first part of defending right He’s kicked the ball, trying to clear it up field same way he did at Fulham, to the opposition. It’s not hard being able to kick the ball, its the very least we should expect from a professional footballer taking home what 4K a week Totally baffled me why fans choose to try snd make excuses instead of just calling it as it is I would bet a months money that he is on less than £1500 a week. He is still on his first pro contract and from what I have been told from academy players most of them don't even get a grand a week for their first contract; if they start to look up, like Eze, it can double or treble.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 18:44:02 GMT
No idea you might be right Esox take your word for it
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 19:27:15 GMT
Less than 1500 a week your having a laugh
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 19:29:54 GMT
Either way wages do not come into it when we are talking about clearing the ball away. Poor yet again.
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 19:32:49 GMT
Very true
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 12, 2020 19:33:19 GMT
Less than 1500 a week your having a laugh Don't think he is mate. I think many would be surprised if they knew how little some of our younger players are getting paid. I think we have something like the 5th or 6th lowest wage bill in the division.
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 19:34:22 GMT
Lumley will be on more than 1500 a week
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 12, 2020 19:45:25 GMT
Lumley will be on more than 1500 a week Genuinely don't think he is mate. As Esox said, he's not had a contract renewal since breaking into the first team.
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 19:54:58 GMT
He signed a new deal 18 months ago
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 12, 2020 20:02:53 GMT
He signed a new deal 18 months ago Yeah, at exactly the same time as he was battling with Ingram for a regular starting spot after Smithies departure. Prior to that he was still on academy terms. Ain't gonna argue with you mate. None of us know for certain. But I do know Esox speaks to people at the club, as do a couple of people I knock around with. I've been told on a few occasions that the young players coming through are on pretty modest money. I'd imagine most of the lads we've signed from Scotland are too.
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Post by Bill on Jan 12, 2020 20:13:18 GMT
Ok i have contacts as well i use to work there.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 20:19:33 GMT
I would say he’s on 3k (guessing) if he’s not he needs a new agent and I’m willing to represent
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Post by West Acton on Jan 12, 2020 20:20:29 GMT
And for a additional nominal fee I will also teach him how to kick beyond the half way line
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 13, 2020 8:03:48 GMT
I would say he’s on 3k (guessing) if he’s not he needs a new agent and I’m willing to represent This is only second hand but when Eze got his contract improvement last season I was talking to some of the U23's after a game and IIRC it was Omar Ali who told me that Eze's money was bumped up to £3800 a week. I obviously can't prove this as I don't have access to the books but our players are getting decent money, not fabulous wealth as some appear to think.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 13, 2020 8:09:55 GMT
Well at least we know it's not money and living a lavish life style that clouding his judgement
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 13, 2020 8:20:49 GMT
Well at least we know it's not money and living a lavish life style that clouding his judgement Eze and Deshane Dalling are two of the nicest people you could wish to meet. I imagine there are quite a few more if I met them. Paul Hall is doing a great job with the academy players, they are all a credit to the club when you meet them.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 13, 2020 8:30:40 GMT
Lumley is so low on confidence he needs time not playing. Problem is, you also need to be playin to stay sharp. Look at Ingram, was dropped to come out of the limelight but then was rusty when played in the cup games and never got his spot back.
A lot of dodgy keepers around at the moment though. Be great if we could get one in the window.
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 13, 2020 8:43:40 GMT
Lumley is so low on confidence he needs time not playing. Problem is, you also need to be playin to stay sharp. Look at Ingram, was dropped to come out of the limelight but then was rusty when played in the cup games and never got his spot back. A lot of dodgy keepers around at the moment though. Be great if we could get one in the window. Personally I think it's this modern trend of asking goalkeepers to play with the ball at their feet. Easy to make a keeper look dodgy if you ask them to do things that are beyond their abilities!
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 13, 2020 8:50:08 GMT
Lumley is so low on confidence he needs time not playing. Problem is, you also need to be playin to stay sharp. Look at Ingram, was dropped to come out of the limelight but then was rusty when played in the cup games and never got his spot back. A lot of dodgy keepers around at the moment though. Be great if we could get one in the window. Personally I think it's this modern trend of asking goalkeepers to play with the ball at their feet. Easy to make a keeper look dodgy if you ask them to do things that are beyond their abilities! that's been my point all along Tarbs. Not fair on the guy, has affected his whole game. That said, even Peter Kaye can welly a ball!
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