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Post by Shania on Sept 4, 2021 13:51:12 GMT
George Thomas was mentioned as a scapegoat in a thread above here, and in that respect I can`t help thinking that he, like other fringe players , obviously suffers from lack of game time. It could very well be that he would benefit from a loan at div 1 club, although Warburton is of the opposite opinion ...
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 4, 2021 14:21:26 GMT
George Thomas was mentioned as a scapegoat in a thread above here, and in that respect I can`t help thinking that he, like other fringe players , obviously suffers from lack of game time. It could very well be that he would benefit from a loan at div 1 club, although Warburton is of the opposite opinion ... Unlike us punters on 'ere, Warby rates Bettache higher than Georginho, hence why he's sent the former on loan and the latter not. In Warby we trust? 😎
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Sept 4, 2021 14:30:17 GMT
It’s all opinions, everyone sees things different. But all these so called donkeys can’t be as shit as we would be , hence they the pro and we the non talented critics
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Post by Shania on Sept 4, 2021 15:09:18 GMT
George Thomas was mentioned as a scapegoat in a thread above here, and in that respect I can`t help thinking that he, like other fringe players , obviously suffers from lack of game time. It could very well be that he would benefit from a loan at div 1 club, although Warburton is of the opposite opinion ... Unlike us punters on 'ere, Warby rates Bettache higher than Georginho, hence why he's sent the former on loan and the latter not. In Warby we trust? 😎 Utimately, we have to trust him and the other coaches. George Thomas was a project like Hamalainen who in the end didn`t quite make it here. Both of them long term projects now suffering in a season where we now are trying hard to make the step up to Premier League.
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Post by Shania on Sept 4, 2021 15:14:39 GMT
It’s all opinions, everyone sees things different. But all these so called donkeys can’t be as shit as we would be , hence they the pro and we the non talented critics True that. In my local newspaper I saw that a new sport is being launced world wide - Walking and playing football at the same time.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 4, 2021 16:08:32 GMT
Thomas is 24. Bettache is 21. That would have been a factor in the decision too.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 4, 2021 16:22:01 GMT
George Thomas was mentioned as a scapegoat in a thread above here, and in that respect I can`t help thinking that he, like other fringe players , obviously suffers from lack of game time. It could very well be that he would benefit from a loan at div 1 club, although Warburton is of the opposite opinion ... Unlike us punters on 'ere, Warby rates Bettache higher than Georginho, hence why he's sent the former on loan and the latter not. In Warby we trust? 😎 The Ilias Chair thread shows fans aren’t mugs. We might not be experts but we watch a lot of football, listen to a lot of opinions, we’re not daft so we’re not complete fools either. No one, as has been said before, who plays at league level is shit - but some do try your faith a bit. If MW rates Georginho that is at best questionable. MW gets the benefit of the doubt with Ball who can balance his errors out with some good play - but I’d have Bettache in the first team squad over Georginho any day. It’s a squad game and from what we’ve seen Bettache doesn’t weaken it as much as Thomas.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 4, 2021 16:23:22 GMT
Thomas is 24. Bettache is 21. That would have been a factor in the decision too. Grown up man, no kid.
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 4, 2021 16:27:24 GMT
It’s all opinions, everyone sees things different. But all these so called donkeys can’t be as shit as we would be , hence they the pro and we the non talented critics True that. In my local newspaper I saw that a new sport is being launced world wide - Walking and playing football at the same time. Me and Westy have a mate who broke his finger playing walking football and they made the local paper for fighting on the pitch😂😂😂 Dangerous game walking football😂
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Post by alanwycombe on Sept 4, 2021 16:28:27 GMT
True that. In my local newspaper I saw that a new sport is being launced world wide - Walking and playing football at the same time. Me and Westy have a mate who broke his finger playing walking football and they made the local paper for fighting on the pitch😂😂😂 Dangerous game walking football😂 He was 71😂
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 4, 2021 16:33:47 GMT
Unlike us punters on 'ere, Warby rates Bettache higher than Georginho, hence why he's sent the former on loan and the latter not. In Warby we trust? 😎 The Ilias Chair thread shows fans aren’t mugs. We might not be experts but we watch a lot of football, listen to a lot of opinions, we’re not daft so we’re not complete fools either. No one, as has been said before, who plays at league level is shit - but some do try your faith a bit. If MW rates Georginho that is at best questionable. MW gets the benefit of the doubt with Ball who can balance his errors out with some good play - but I’d have Bettache in the first team squad over Georginho any day. It’s a squad game and from what we’ve seen Bettache doesn’t weaken it as much as Thomas. FWIW I agree with you. Indeed none of us are paid to make these decisions. Warbs sees what we do on matchdays and ultimately that's where the performances matter. But we don't see what he sees on the training ground, so we have to assume he's partly basing his decisions on that too, regarding the likes of Ball, Thomas and Bettache.
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Post by Shania on Sept 4, 2021 17:05:02 GMT
True that. In my local newspaper I saw that a new sport is being launced world wide - Walking and playing football at the same time. Me and Westy have a mate who broke his finger playing walking football and they made the local paper for fighting on the pitch😂😂😂 Dangerous game walking football😂Lol.
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Post by sparks on Feb 14, 2022 15:37:21 GMT
It was rumoured that McCallum Dozzell and Ball were playing in the our first win in half a dozen matches against Blackburn today.
Hope Dozzell scoring today gets him back in the first team squad asap.
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Post by acricketer on Feb 14, 2022 17:22:11 GMT
Get Kargbo and Mema in for Milwall!
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Post by sparks on Mar 1, 2022 16:03:27 GMT
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Post by acricketer on Mar 1, 2022 19:19:18 GMT
Kargbo scores again!
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 21, 2022 7:00:31 GMT
Time to start using U23 squad, if not up to it get rid. Whats point of them if not being utilized.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 21, 2022 11:10:47 GMT
Time to start using U23 squad, if not up to it get rid. Whats point of them if not being utilized.The U23's team is all about developing (essentially 'free') youngsters, in the hope that one day they'll be good enough for the first team, or realise a decent profit on the transfer market (or both). While I agree it would be great to give youngsters a chance in the firsts, going out on loan to League One or Two clubs seems more likely initially - don't see any pint in putting them in too early.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 21, 2022 11:51:29 GMT
A player in his twenties should be playing as part of first team squad. If he’s not, move him on. Grown man, not a kid to develop.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 21, 2022 12:02:34 GMT
A player in his twenties should be playing as part of first team squad. If he’s not, move him on. Grown man, not a kid to develop. Exactly. It's way too short a career to piss about assessing players at that age.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 21, 2022 14:33:20 GMT
Developing😄
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 23, 2022 6:45:08 GMT
Kehinde is a good player, but it's probably just his agent trying to get some interest. Don't think he'll come our way. Not if he’s got any sense. He’ll get shipped out on loan to non-league in the name of development. Either our youngsters are no good or we’re a graveyard for youth. Who’s made a breakthrough this season? No one. We’ve had a problem at LB. Aaron Drewe (21, so a man) got a few minutes in a League Cup game then got loaned out, didn’t even get a chance to cover. And we really improved Hämäläinen didn’t we? Gubbins, Owens, Bettache, SD-M etc. any good or wasting our time? We bought Kelman and Masterson - if we don’t rate them who scouted and signed them? Is Armstrong any good or just hype? All should be on the bench sometime and knocking on the door. Sorry, but I won’t be getting excited about MW staying on.
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Post by 2Loftus on Apr 23, 2022 6:50:51 GMT
Our new training ground is meant to be ready for next season. Might help attract players?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 23, 2022 7:08:05 GMT
Kehinde is a good player, but it's probably just his agent trying to get some interest. Don't think he'll come our way. Not if he’s got any sense. He’ll get shipped out on loan to non-league in the name of development. Either our youngsters are no good or we’re a graveyard for youth. Who’s made a breakthrough this season? No one. We’ve had a problem at LB. Aaron Drewe (21, so a man) got a few minutes in a League Cup game then got loaned out, didn’t even get a chance to cover. And we really improved Hämäläinen didn’t we? Gubbins, Owens, Bettache, SD-M etc. any good or wasting our time? We bought Kelman and Masterson - if we don’t rate them who scouted and signed them? Is Armstrong any good or just hype? All should be on the bench sometime and knocking on the door. Sorry, but I won’t be getting excited about MW staying on. Wycombe, never admit to getting excited about young men ever.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 23, 2022 7:19:49 GMT
Our new training ground is meant to be ready for next season. Might help attract players? More about who is training them. Will take a long time to get a good reputation for developing players. I’m not sure anyone outside the club would flag us up as a desirable destination yet.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Apr 23, 2022 7:37:05 GMT
Even dinghy divers don’t want to come to us
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 23, 2022 7:52:41 GMT
Chris Willock, Jimmy Dunne. We have developed them massively. Same age as Kehinde. Think he would pray on his knees to get to us.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 23, 2022 8:05:13 GMT
Chris Willock, Jimmy Dunne. We have developed them massively. Think he's referring to the development of our youth and U23 players.
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 23, 2022 8:08:03 GMT
Chris Willock, Jimmy Dunne. We have developed them massively. Same age as Kehinde. Think he would pray on his knees to get to us. Jimmy Dunne came from a Prem club where he would have been schooled well and fitted straight in. Willock was always thought to be the best of the three brothers and is no kid. Natural talent. Have we developed Dickie? Getting worse. Have we developed Dykes?😂😂 Chair needs a good coach desperately - lots of talent, plateaued. Amos, left out or regularly subbed instead of playing him in the correct role. Hardly development. Where are the youngsters - even the 20-23 year old men - knocking the door down for a place? It’s a myth, and amazing that so many buy into it.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Apr 23, 2022 8:37:22 GMT
Dykes and Dickie both are 26. I thought we were talking about 23 yo players. And no matter where they are from if we developed them.
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