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Post by Shania on Jan 2, 2020 17:51:32 GMT
Absolutely spot on. £5m for Manning would certainly be a decent return, plus BOS is one player we simply cannot let go (IMO). Eze is a player we simply cannot let go too. Eze AND BOS are players we have to keep imo. Our team are far too fragile at this stage. Scowen, Manning and maybe Kelly are the players I want us to shift. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 2, 2020 17:53:48 GMT
Why Kelly??
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 2, 2020 18:09:12 GMT
Eze is a player we simply cannot let go too. Eze AND BOS are players we have to keep imo. Our team are far too fragile at this stage. Scowen, Manning and maybe Kelly are the players I want us to shift. Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 2, 2020 18:52:16 GMT
Eze AND BOS are players we have to keep imo. Our team are far too fragile at this stage. Scowen, Manning and maybe Kelly are the players I want us to shift. Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. Let's just hope they stick to that £20m price tag then. I did hear a rumour that Spurs were coming in with a £17m bid, plus 2 players, plus Eze loaned back for the season. Which I'd accept in a flash, but sounds far too good to be true. |
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Post by Greg1882 on Jan 2, 2020 18:54:44 GMT
Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. Let's just hope they stick to that £20m price tag then. I did hear a rumour that Spurs were coming in with a £17m bid, plus 2 players, plus Eze loaned back for the season. Which I'd accept in a flash, but sounds far too good to be true. Fuck me id bite their hands off |
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Post by Shania on Jan 2, 2020 19:12:30 GMT
Eze AND BOS are players we have to keep imo. Our team are far too fragile at this stage. Scowen, Manning and maybe Kelly are the players I want us to shift. Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. I know, but if BOS and Eze will be off I fear for us this season.. |
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Post by Shania on Jan 2, 2020 19:19:29 GMT
Because it seems like Warburton doesn`t rate him? Not sure though.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 13:39:44 GMT
Because it seems like Warburton doesn`t rate him? Not sure though.. No point selling a guy who we bought for 50k and not exactly excelled. We would be lucky to get left over turkey from a clubs christmas lunch. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Jan 3, 2020 14:42:21 GMT
Doncaster Rovers FC Verified account @drfc_official Follow Follow @drfc_official More NEWS | Rovers have extended the loan of keeper Seny Dieng until end of the 2019/20 campaign. bit.ly/2QD1DEc #DRFC |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 3, 2020 14:48:23 GMT
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Post by West Acton on Jan 3, 2020 15:56:59 GMT
I said this start of season he looks like a safe pair of hands. Only ever seen him warming up but his hands are like magnets and he looks the part. Could just tell he has something about him |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 3, 2020 18:22:46 GMT
Eze AND BOS are players we have to keep imo. Our team are far too fragile at this stage. Scowen, Manning and maybe Kelly are the players I want us to shift. Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 3, 2020 18:27:37 GMT
Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. Re Dieng, he's been rated wherever he's been. I was always perplexed as to why Kelly came in, if we really are a selling club then SD is exactly the sort of player who needs to be blooded sooner rather than later. Ironic that we've extended the Donny loan at a time when there are plenty of questions on the GK front at LR. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 3, 2020 19:07:48 GMT
Dof les has spoken......... we are a selling club. if the right offer comes in for ANY player, they will be sold. That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. i don’t think you have grasped the clubs financial position |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 21:09:30 GMT
That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. i don’t think you have grasped the clubs financial position Took them 18 months to put us in this position but will take 18 years to get us on an even keel. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 3, 2020 22:08:02 GMT
i don’t think you have grasped the clubs financial position Took them 18 months to put us in this position but will take 18 years to get us on an even keel. About three years ago I had a strong discussion with one of my FB friends about the implications of what FFP would do to us. His response was pay the fine then crack on with building a side to get back in the Prem. He called me all kinds of a cunt when I said that it will take over 6-7 years before we get back on our feet; I am starting to think I may have been optimistic.  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 3, 2020 22:13:11 GMT
The prem is not the be and end all. Ok u get cash thrown at u but then wages infrastructure etc improve and to stand a chance u have to spunk the budget of Cyprus to stay up. Get a decent champs. Squad together and try for cups should be our goal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 22:23:16 GMT
The year we went up under Warnock was down to Bernie bankrolling us as they knew they would never have a better chance to sell. I heard it was to the tune of 20 million plus so what chance have we got in the forseeable future under the FFP play ruling. We were a club that really should have been established mid to bottom half EPL club. Unbelievable mis management put paid to that and will continue to do so for the next 8 to 10 years at least.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 3, 2020 22:32:57 GMT
Won't be a premier league in 10 years
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 3, 2020 22:51:06 GMT
I said this start of season he looks like a safe pair of hands. Only ever seen him warming up but his hands are like magnets and he looks the part. Could just tell he has something about him Odd one ain't it mate? As you say, heard nothing but good things about Dieng from his various loan spells. Yet our fans have been complaining about the goalkeeping situation since Smithies left. Why ain't he getting a chance? |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 3, 2020 23:12:00 GMT
I said this start of season he looks like a safe pair of hands. Only ever seen him warming up but his hands are like magnets and he looks the part. Could just tell he has something about him Odd one ain't it mate? As you say, heard nothing but good things about Dieng from his various loan spells. Yet our fans have been complaining about the goalkeeping situation since Smithies left. Why ain't he getting a chance? Need to recall him pronto, going by those reports. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 4, 2020 0:23:24 GMT
That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. i don’t think you have grasped the clubs financial position I think I kind of have. Arguably the problem is that we went shopping at exactly the wrong time. Since we had our little supermarket dash, the reward for promotion has increased tenfold. It's obscene really but there you go. Chute payments have increased.Our owners considerable wealth (inc Mittal stake) has increased. FFP meanwhile is doable with a coach and horses these days. Everyone is taking the piss, and the reason for that is that the EFL is run by a committee of chairmen who are perfectly happy leaving loopholes. W e meanwhile have gone the other way, which is fair enough, but the timing is awful.Put it this way Wests. Imagine a scenario where we'd been defending properly, playing with confidence and were top two right now. I'm not sure they'd be in such a hurry to take money for the talent this January, because financially it just wouldn't make sense. No way. They are doing exactly what I said: hoping we can hold on to mid table and get lucky one year on the cheap. It's their club, their rules. I just wish they had more foresight. |
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Post by Tarbie on Jan 4, 2020 7:11:33 GMT
Odd one ain't it mate? As you say, heard nothing but good things about Dieng from his various loan spells. Yet our fans have been complaining about the goalkeeping situation since Smithies left. Why ain't he getting a chance? Need to recall him pronto, going by those reports. Yet we've extended him until the end of the season? I'd get it if we had 2 solid options in goal already. |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 4, 2020 8:36:51 GMT
Quote from a Donny fan on their forum:
“Best keeper for his age that I have seen for many years across EPL, Championship, L1 & 2 and abroad. The only one I would put up there alongside him, is the lad at Man City - Gavin Bazanu”
That’s some assessment, would be nice if he’s anywhere near right.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 4, 2020 9:11:28 GMT
i don’t think you have grasped the clubs financial position I think I kind of have. Arguably the problem is that we went shopping at exactly the wrong time. Since we had our little supermarket dash, the reward for promotion has increased tenfold. It's obscene really but there you go. Chute payments have increased.Our owners considerable wealth (inc Mittal stake) has increased. FFP meanwhile is doable with a coach and horses these days. Everyone is taking the piss, and the reason for that is that the EFL is run by a committee of chairmen who are perfectly happy leaving loopholes. W e meanwhile have gone the other way, which is fair enough, but the timing is awful.Put it this way Wests. Imagine a scenario where we'd been defending properly, playing with confidence and were top two right now. I'm not sure they'd be in such a hurry to take money for the talent this January, because financially it just wouldn't make sense. No way. They are doing exactly what I said: hoping we can hold on to mid table and get lucky one year on the cheap. It's their club, their rules. I just wish they had more foresight. thats a good post Hal but it’s written in hindsight. We had a go, good point on the timing, and we messed it up, hence why we find ourselves in a recovery position as a club I’m sure owners would put hands in pocket if they thought they would get away with it, they have not been shy bankrolling us so far, but there is a balance. Plenty of clubs have been done by FFP, not way we were granted, and plenty are in the process of being done now so don’t think it’s as easy as just looking for loopholes as EFL are on to it. For the record I don’t think we will sell Eze in Jan and if we did think he would remain rest of the season so I’m not worried on that aspect We’re a medium sized club who have had the rug pulled from under our feet by FFP. I would love us to shop in harrods for our food but you can’t do it on an Asda wage!! Yes you might be able to do the odd shop but it’s not sustainable The only way out would be to gamble but we tried that and look where it got us. Personally I 100% back boards current plan and perhaps in two or three seasons when we have established our new model we can be more competitive and look upwards and expect a bit more. |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 4, 2020 10:48:42 GMT
There is an interesting breakdown on QPR finances from a year ago on Twitter which is well worth a read.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 4, 2020 10:54:00 GMT
That tells you everything you need to know about current ambitions. The financial incentive for promotion is huge. We're basically saying we hope to get lucky one year onna cheap. We've basically gone from one extreme to the other, thats not a great way to manage a business. You can't be a selling club without talent coming through, it took years for Sotton to develop that system. Re Dieng, he's been rated wherever he's been. I was always perplexed as to why Kelly came in, if we really are a selling club then SD is exactly the sort of player who needs to be blooded sooner rather than later. Ironic that we've extended the Donny loan at a time when there are plenty of questions on the GK front at LR. Just supposition but maybe the club see him as the first team GK when he is ready, we have seen what happens to a GK who is young and trying to learn his trade in the first team and it isn't pretty. Leaving Timothy out for a few seasons as a regular in a team where he is shining and get him back when he is about the finished product. Look at what happened with David Button, now he is 3rd choice at Brighton. Same with Alex McCarthy when he was at ours, had the crowd on his back most of the time and we shipped him out. He is only now starting to get back on his feet as a GK. Our fans just don't seem to understand the concept of nurturing our young talent, they would rather rip them to shreds for any and every mistake. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 4, 2020 11:47:26 GMT
There is an interesting breakdown on QPR finances from a year ago on Twitter which is well worth a read. yeah he's always been worth a read, I did post him up back on WATRB, we've been a good source of material for accountants and FFP watchers.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 13:44:01 GMT
Quote from a Donny fan on their forum: “Best keeper for his age that I have seen for many years across EPL, Championship, L1 & 2 and abroad. The only one I would put up there alongside him, is the lad at Man City - Gavin Bazanu” That’s some assessment, would be nice if he’s anywhere near right. Remember Wycombe fans saying similar about Ingram |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 4, 2020 14:18:10 GMT
Eze goes sheff or west ham,backwards move Imo. He better thaan them. Quite surprised that German teams not sniffing around as they love young English talent now
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