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Post by spongeparr on Jan 9, 2020 8:28:57 GMT
Big game at the weekend and we don't appear to have a thread!
I have managed to get tickets for this for the first ever time, so I am buzzing for it! Shame it is a 12.30 kick off. I have to go and watch my nephew play football in Kingston/Hampton Wick, then get an uber somewhere to get to the ground. Going to be a struggle to get more than 3 pints in before the game. Is it wrong to have a beer whilst watching an under 7s game?!
What's it like at half time, do they serve booze?
What side of the away end is nearer their singing section? I want to be that end.
As for the game itself, going into it with confidence and that always scares me. Not sure what team he will go for, but I imagine it will be the same as against Cardiff.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2020 9:21:07 GMT
Think there is little activity on here, in all honesty, as it’s just another game although seems to be plenty of rivalry from them towards us. I know not everyone will feel that way but I’ve never been bothered by Brentford and used to go there as a kid as school always got free tickets so I don’t mind them personally
Away end is cramped but good atmosphere if the team turn up. Bit chaotic for refreshments and a piss but that’s the charm of old grounds like theirs and ours. From memory their singers are other end behind goal.
Will be drinking in Acton this match before game given earky kick off then wander up about 1130
Should be a decent game if we turn up
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Post by Corbray on Jan 9, 2020 9:52:59 GMT
only went to griffin park once and loved ut. brilliant stadium, proper old school and cramped but in a good way. its a better ground than most of the fancy modern ones
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 9, 2020 10:14:00 GMT
Brentford are our traditional rivals but to people of my age - early 40s - they are a team we used to play in pre-season friendlies as we did our bit for local small clubs. As for spongeparr 's questions: 1) The away end is very cramped and you will need to choose between missing 15 minutes of the 1st half or 10 minutes of the 2nd if you want a beer 2) The section to the left of the away terrace is normally the 'singing section' but they hate us so much that the entire ground will be singing in what is the last scheduled visit of any QPR side to Griffin Park I normally miss that amount of time at QPR getting beers and taking a leak anyway so that's okay with me haha. Thanks for the info though. As for the rivaly ... I always had them down as just a friendly little club around the corner where people used to go because it was a £1 to get in. I dont see them as rivals but now we play them more and more, I really want to beat them. GOt a couple of Brentford at work as well so gives it more meaning as I never get to gloat!
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 9, 2020 11:21:22 GMT
A bloke who works here went to their cup game last week and he said the announcer couldn't even bring himself to say our name and referred to us as that lot from W12.
They don't like us much so I would love to turn them over on our last fixture there.
Although I am looking forward to it I think we are going to narrowly lose unfortunately.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 9, 2020 11:33:07 GMT
A bloke who works here went to their cup game last week and he said the announcer couldn't even bring himself to say our name and referred to us as that lot from W12. They don't like us much so I would love to turn them over on our last fixture there. Although I am looking forward to it I think we are going to narrowly lose unfortunately. same here, they always seem to step it up massively against us whereas we look nervous and uninterested. still, we've been relentless in front of goal the past 2 games so hopefully we can bring the game to them
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 9, 2020 12:00:26 GMT
A bloke who works here went to their cup game last week and he said the announcer couldn't even bring himself to say our name and referred to us as that lot from W12. They don't like us much so I would love to turn them over on our last fixture there. Although I am looking forward to it I think we are going to narrowly lose unfortunately. same here, they always seem to step it up massively against us whereas we look nervous and uninterested. still, we've been relentless in front of goal the past 2 games so hopefully we can bring the game to them I really hope so mate. We need to get at them early and get our noses in front.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Jan 9, 2020 12:21:44 GMT
Brentford,just a team my mate and my sons mate played for. Nothing else.
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Post by lymehoop on Jan 9, 2020 15:16:46 GMT
they're light years ahead of us on and off the pitch according to one of the bumbles on the FL Forum
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Post by manti on Jan 9, 2020 15:47:56 GMT
Hi friendly Bee here again. You do realise the reason Rangers are not very popular with Bees fans is because in 1967 when Griffin Park still had a capacity of 38,000 you tried to take us over and close us down so Rangers could use GP instead of LR. Anyway onto Saturday, we are both in great form. Should be a cracking game and atmosphere. Totally sold out GP.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2020 16:06:16 GMT
MKDons tried same thing with us. Don’t think any Rangers fans give a toss over them. Half a century ago Manti and that’s why I would say, in the main, it’s a one way rivalry. You dislike us for a reason but most rangers don’t Care back as other then being local there is no reason to dislike you.
Your defo side on the up, who make the right decisions more often then not and who play lovely footie and are in advance of us. Your a club where where we should be looking at saying let’s try and replicate the good things you do as they clearly are effective when it comes to running of a club.
I’m confident we’re slowly heading in right direction and will go from strength to strength next few seasons.
Should be a decent game. Usually turn up at yours shoulders hunched fearing the worst but I’m reasonably confident this time round and cant remember last time I felt that going yours
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 9, 2020 16:09:52 GMT
Hi friendly Bee here again. You do realise the reason Rangers are not very popular with Bees fans is because in 1967 when Griffin Park still had a capacity of 38,000 you tried to take us over and close us down so Rangers could use GP instead of LR. Anyway onto Saturday, we are both in great form. Should be a cracking game and atmosphere. Totally sold out GP. It wasn't as clear cut as you think it was, your chairman was up for it too. "Dennis Signy OBE speaks to Vital QPR once more, about his time within Brentford and the possible take-over by Queens Park Rangers in 1967. Signy who previous spoke to Vital QPR concerning his time under Jim Gregory and Alec Stock, now moves to speak about Rangers potential acquisition of Brentford in 1967 as well as John Lyall agreeing to manage Rangers. ——————————————————————————- The biggest story of my career over 60 years in newspapers and football came in 1967 … the QPR bid to take over Brentford. The headline story went round the world yet, strangely for me, I did not write a word on the subject. I was general manager of Brentford at the time – in fact, I started the whole saga. It was a chance remark I made to Jim Gregory that sparked off the soccer sensation of 1967. Billy Gray was my team manager at Brentford – having turned down an offer from Alec Stock to join him with Rangers – and he and I were standing in Ellerslie Road waiting for my wife to arrive for a game against Carlisle United, when we saw Jim. The previous Saturday Bernard Joy, the famous ex-centre half who wrote so authoratively over the years for the Evening Standard, had produced a feature on the old theme of ground sharing and had linked Brentford and QPR as logical clubs to tie up. Jim asked: ‘How many do you think we’ll get tonight?’ I told him: ‘I don’t know – about 18,000. If you were playing at Griffin Park you’d get 30,000’ (in actual fact the gate was 19,146). From that casual remark we progressed to a discussion on Joy’s ground-sharing theme and, when Jim Gregory said that he might be interested in pursuing this further I said I would mention it to my chairman, Jack Dunnett, Brentford’s MP chairman. I did – and that started the train of events that led to the eventual take-over bid. The two chairmen went into the appeals of ground-sharing but moved on to discuss the possibility of Rangers buying the Brentford ground – capacity at the time 38,000. Various idea were thrashed around by the two wealthy chairman, including Brentford using Griffin Park on alternate weeks as tenants of Rangers. Homely Loftus Road, as I recorded at the time, was Rangers’ 16th home and I dubbed them as veritable gypsies of the soccer scene in historical parlance – the happy wanderers. I remember sitting in on some of the preliminary discussions as a modestly paid journalist who had moved into football management and knew more about headlines than balance sheets. I did understand, though, that both clubs were losing money heavily. I was fascinated hearing sums of thousands and hundreds of thousands of pounds being bandied about between the Mayfair solicitor who was my chairman and the self-made millionaire from Rangers. It was like Monopoly – with real money. I used to smile at being asked to intervene with important decisions. The discussions evolved into this: – Rangers were to buy Griffin Park for £220,000 and were to sell Loftus Road to he council for £310,000. The £90,000 surplus was intended to be used to improve Griffin Park. I was to be in publicity and fund-raising projects. What was not known even when the story broke in the newspapers and on radio and television was that the two clubs were UNDER CONTRACT. After he breakdown of the merger talks Jim Gregory had proposed to Jack Dunnett: ‘We’ll buy you out, shares, ground, the players, the lot’. The deal was announced on Jim’s 39th birthday. Alec Stock was to be overall manager and Billy Gray and Bill Dodgin the coaches. I, the ideas man of the project, was bombarded by telephone. The Daily Mail headlined: ‘Fans call it a sell -out’. The Daily Mirror: ‘Goodbye, Brentford’ . The next crowd at Griffin Park was a best-of-season 10, 650 and the fans left us in no doubt what they thought of the idea. ‘Who done it? Dunnett dunnit’ was the poster I remember. To cut it short, it never went through and I resigned some weeks later and Billy Gray followed me out of Griffin Park when Dunnett handed over to new chairman Ron Blindell. Would it have been such a bad thing? I recall Alec Stock’s words: ‘This would be a great thing for us. If agreement is reached it will mean that we have a first-class ground for what is already a first-class team’. Jim Gregory said: ‘Economically it was a good proposition for Rangers’. Ironically, when I joined Rangers as chief executive alongside manager Jim Smith in the Eighties, another take-over propelled Jim Gregory and the club into the headlines. I was not involved in the talks between Jim and Fulham chairman David Bulstrode that led to the infamous Fulham Park Rangers proposition. I was not part of that plan and I left Rangers when David Bulstrode, with whom I got on well, took over as chairman. Unfortunately that episode ended my long association with Jim Gregory. Despite the eventual acrimony I have outstanding memories of our years together."
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 9, 2020 18:28:26 GMT
in my many years of QPR fandom Brentford were never considered our local rivals, probably because for most of that time there was a massive gulf in class between the two sides.
In those days same applied to Fulham.
Back in the glory days we only had one rival. We all know who they are. And for me it stays that way. However, I am interested in the demise of Warburton at Brentford - mainly because I've heard different accounts of how it all ended in tears...
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Post by manti on Jan 9, 2020 18:38:23 GMT
Hi friendly Bee here again. You do realise the reason Rangers are not very popular with Bees fans is because in 1967 when Griffin Park still had a capacity of 38,000 you tried to take us over and close us down so Rangers could use GP instead of LR. Anyway onto Saturday, we are both in great form. Should be a cracking game and atmosphere. Totally sold out GP. Fuck off Welcome and we all know the reasons why you're obsessed with us inclined to consider us rivals and I hope you find your wife in bed with three milkmen when you come home on Saturday enjoy your cup final big day on Saturday as you host us for the last time. Funnily enough I did used to be a milkman so she did used to wake up in bed with one.
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Post by Vespa on Jan 9, 2020 18:54:04 GMT
Fuck off Welcome and we all know the reasons why you're obsessed with us inclined to consider us rivals and I hope you find your wife in bed with three milkmen when you come home on Saturday enjoy your cup final big day on Saturday as you host us for the last time. Funnily enough I did used to be a milkman so she did used to wake up in bed with one. lol !
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Post by manti on Jan 9, 2020 18:55:35 GMT
in my many years of QPR fandom Brentford were never considered our local rivals, probably because for most of that time there was a massive gulf in class between the two sides. In those days same applied to Fulham. Back in the glory days we only had one rival. We all know who they are. And for me it stays that way. However, I am interested in the demise of Warburton at Brentford - mainly because I've heard different accounts of how it all ended in tears... I think there were 2 main reasons. In our first season up the owner was willing to splash the cash in the January window when we were in a play off place but MW turned down the chance because he wanted to keep faith in the then current squad. Secondly he wanted the ultimate say on transfers whereas we had a committee of 2 DoFs the Owner using stats based player identification before actual scouting for potential incoming. All players were for sale - at the right price. MW didn't accept this and so was told his contract would not be renewed at the end of the season.
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Post by Vespa on Jan 9, 2020 18:55:38 GMT
No rivalry between us an Middlesex Utd , never were on our radar , just another championship club
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Post by manti on Jan 9, 2020 19:05:45 GMT
No rivalry between us an Middlesex Utd , never were on our radar , just another championship club Prefer Spartak Hounslow. Anyway enough from me before I get banned! Enjoy Saturday everyone.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 9, 2020 20:48:24 GMT
in my many years of QPR fandom Brentford were never considered our local rivals, probably because for most of that time there was a massive gulf in class between the two sides. In those days same applied to Fulham. Back in the glory days we only had one rival. We all know who they are. And for me it stays that way. However, I am interested in the demise of Warburton at Brentford - mainly because I've heard different accounts of how it all ended in tears... I think there were 2 main reasons. In our first season up the owner was willing to splash the cash in the January window when we were in a play off place but MW turned down the chance because he wanted to keep faith in the then current squad. Secondly he wanted the ultimate say on transfers whereas we had a committee of 2 DoFs the Owner using stats based player identification before actual scouting for potential incoming. All players were for sale - at the right price. MW didn't accept this and so was told his contract would not be renewed at the end of the season. that system you had in place seems to have served you right. You rarely seem to get a transfer wrong they all seem to come off and result in making you money. I’m well impressed this is why I think we can learn from you
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Post by Shania on Jan 9, 2020 22:25:53 GMT
It will be interesting to see how we will play against them, but IMO we have to run at them regardless how solid in possession they have been season. Wells & Co will literally have to work their socks off, I think.
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Post by hubble on Jan 9, 2020 23:04:42 GMT
I remember going to GP around 2002, again I think it was a 12.30 kick off. I necked 4 pints before the game, shouted my head off on that shitty little roofless terrace, then had some kind of fit at half time and collapsed in the bogs. My old mate Coley (co-founder of RTID along with Mark Watts in the Bushranger) picked me up and told me later my eyes were pinballing. Freaked him out more than me. Needless to say, I'm still breathing.
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Post by Vespa on Jan 9, 2020 23:19:16 GMT
I remember going to GP around 2002, again I think it was a 12.30 kick off. I necked 4 pints before the game, shouted my head off on that shitty little roofless terrace, then had some kind of fit at half time and collapsed in the bogs. My old mate Coley (co-founder of RTID along with Mark Watts in the Bushranger) picked me up and told me later my eyes were pinballing. Freaked him out more than me. Needless to say, I'm still breathing. Fuckin ell Hud , i`d have wrapped you up , give you a massive cuddle !
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 9, 2020 23:22:18 GMT
It will be interesting to see how we will play against them, but IMO we have to run at them regardless how solid in possession they have been season. Wells & Co will literally have to work their socks off, I think. What really matters for us is our off the ball performance. We have to get tight and mark up when that ball is lost. When we've been poor this has been the common factor because it just hasn't happened. No side can press for 90m, its selective, but there have been times when we haven't pressed at all and should have. Increasingly a side's ball lost performance is the key determinant in outcome. MW's apparent inability to get to grips with this worried me, but there are signs that things maybe changing.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 9, 2020 23:25:09 GMT
then had some kind of fit at half time and collapsed in the bogs. appropriate response to sub standard facilities.....
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Post by hubble on Jan 9, 2020 23:42:08 GMT
I remember going to GP around 2002, again I think it was a 12.30 kick off. I necked 4 pints before the game, shouted my head off on that shitty little roofless terrace, then had some kind of fit at half time and collapsed in the bogs. My old mate Coley (co-founder of RTID along with Mark Watts in the Bushranger) picked me up and told me later my eyes were pinballing. Freaked him out more than me. Needless to say, I'm still breathing. Fuckin ell Hud , i`d have wrapped you up , give you a massive cuddle ! That's cos you're a lovely bloke Johnny!
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Post by hubble on Jan 9, 2020 23:42:24 GMT
then had some kind of fit at half time and collapsed in the bogs. appropriate response to sub standard facilities..... true...
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Post by Corbray on Jan 9, 2020 23:48:58 GMT
in my many years of QPR fandom Brentford were never considered our local rivals, probably because for most of that time there was a massive gulf in class between the two sides. In those days same applied to Fulham. Back in the glory days we only had one rival. We all know who they are. And for me it stays that way. However, I am interested in the demise of Warburton at Brentford - mainly because I've heard different accounts of how it all ended in tears... interesting how times and attitudes have changed over the years! i'm only 26 and consider brentford to be our main rivals. i feel nervous and excited whenever we play them. i 'hate' and admire brentford at the same time. can't stand losing to them or see them higher up the table than us but at the same time they're a brilliantly well run team and should be the model that every smaller championship club should aspire to be. they seem to be able to drag anyone off of a piss stained cardboard and turn them into a good player
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 10, 2020 8:07:42 GMT
I am 30 but class Chelsea and only CHelsea as our proper rivals.
The more we play Brentford and Fulham the more they annoy me but only a hatred for Chelsea. Maybe a bit of jealously of Brentford atm. New ground, good team, well run. Shit fans though.
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Post by 72bus on Jan 10, 2020 9:43:24 GMT
Never got why the bees don't like us , they've never been on my radar ... Used to hire cars off a bees fan in Richmond he hated us with a passion . Tough game sat would jump at a draw
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Jan 10, 2020 10:29:44 GMT
Quite pessimistic about this one the closer it gets. We seem to have so much trouble against that lot. Would take a draw.
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