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Post by spongeparr on Jan 13, 2020 9:06:33 GMT
The wind was behind the fans blowing onto the pitch, so it was blowing that way but you don't use wind as an excuse in Sunday league yet alone a West London Derby (or just a professional game).
Too many players didn't turn up and wanted too much time on the ball. Before their second, Hall took an age to pick a pass rather than trusting Amos who wanted it on the half turn between two players. If Hall passes it straight away then we turn and go but no he goes sideways to the wrong foot and then the rest is history.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 9:08:03 GMT
If you look at it that way as in 2 wins in 3 games how about we look at it this way 1 league win 6 games. Cannot excuse the level of performance or defend the selection from the manager. As for Lumley and the kick out it is a case of seen him do it before and learnt nothing. That was the last decade, you can't keep looking to the past for your future expectations. It's folly. I was not the one that quoted won 2 of our LAST three games. Think you should practice what you preach. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 9:25:50 GMT
Funny how the wind didn't affect Brentford🤔 They mixed it up well and have more than one way of playing. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 13, 2020 9:30:22 GMT
If you look at it that way as in 2 wins in 3 games how about we look at it this way 1 league win 6 games. Cannot excuse the level of performance or defend the selection from the manager. As for Lumley and the kick out it is a case of seen him do it before and learnt nothing. , you can't keep looking to the past for your future expectations. It's folly. Yes, as in a fortnight ago. You’re becoming a caricature of yourself. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 13, 2020 10:50:15 GMT
Funny how the wind didn't affect Brentford🤔 Our piss and wind first half helped out. |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 13, 2020 11:29:26 GMT
That was the last decade, you can't keep looking to the past for your future expectations. It's folly. Yes, as in a fortnight ago. You’re becoming a caricature of yourself. I think Esox thought 1973 was referring to our record against Brentford rather than our recent league form. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 11:34:41 GMT
Yes, as in a fortnight ago. You’re becoming a caricature of yourself. I think Esox thought 1973 was referring to our record against Brentford rather than our recent league form. I was refering to recent league form in response to the highest scorers this year and 2 wins out of 3 games comment made. Never mentioned our recent results v Brentford CCJ. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 13, 2020 12:02:26 GMT
Bottom line: awful off the ball gaffer (in every sense) who doesn't have the suss to adjust. QED - time and again.
Thats the beginning and will be the end of this story if the finger doesn't come out fast.
My main worry is that if it does go all to shite the board and so called dof have a dubious record when it comes to football appointments. And that's playing nice.
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Post by West Acton on Jan 13, 2020 12:04:32 GMT
Bottom line: awful off the ball gaffer (in every sense) who doesn't have the suss to adjust. QED - time and again. Thats the beginning and will be the end of this story if the finger doesn't come out fast. My main worry is that if it does go all to shite the board and so called dof have a dubious record when it comes to football appointments. And that's playing nice. i think your itching for him to get sacked |
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 13, 2020 12:39:46 GMT
I think Esox thought 1973 was referring to our record against Brentford rather than our recent league form. I was refering to recent league form in response to the highest scorers this year and 2 wins out of 3 games comment made. Never mentioned our recent results v Brentford CCJ. I know. That's what I said. But I believe that's what esox thought you meant. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 13, 2020 12:48:18 GMT
Bottom line: awful off the ball gaffer (in every sense) who doesn't have the suss to adjust. QED - time and again. Thats the beginning and will be the end of this story if the finger doesn't come out fast. My main worry is that if it does go all to shite the board and so called dof have a dubious record when it comes to football appointments. And that's playing nice. i think your itching for him to get sacked We are just treading water so MW fits the situation,cant see him being sacked if im honest,overall probably doing a good job under difficult circumstances.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Jan 13, 2020 12:51:59 GMT
i think your itching for him to get sacked We are just treading water so MW fits the situation,cant see him being sacked if im honest,overall probably doing a good job under difficult circumstances.
We could do without these schoolboy errors though Yes, the schoolboy errors are probably the difference between us trading water and genuinely being playoff contenders. Not that I expected that this season but given the standard in the division it was possible. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 13, 2020 12:59:49 GMT
I feel more positive about us than I have in a long time
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 13, 2020 14:38:42 GMT
I think we are a gk, right back and winger away from being a play off team. Probably a centre back as well if Masterson goes on loan.
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 13, 2020 15:46:22 GMT
That was the last decade, you can't keep looking to the past for your future expectations. It's folly. Yes, as in a fortnight ago. You’re becoming a caricature of yourself. Pithy irony seems to have few fans here.  |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 13, 2020 15:48:26 GMT
Bottom line: awful off the ball gaffer (in every sense) who doesn't have the suss to adjust. QED - time and again. Thats the beginning and will be the end of this story if the finger doesn't come out fast. My main worry is that if it does go all to shite the board and so called dof have a dubious record when it comes to football appointments. And that's playing nice. How does your record stack up against theirs? You do almost nothing but fucking moan about them on here. |
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 13, 2020 16:13:10 GMT
Bottom line: awful off the ball gaffer (in every sense) who doesn't have the suss to adjust. QED - time and again. Thats the beginning and will be the end of this story if the finger doesn't come out fast. My main worry is that if it does go all to shite the board and so called dof have a dubious record when it comes to football appointments. And that's playing nice. How does your record stack up against theirs? You do almost nothing but fucking moan about them on here. Pretty well - in the sense that I'd give you decent odds that I'd do their job better than they would do mine. What would be more interesting would be if you adopted an evidence based approach and attempted to demonstrate how my previous observation was inaccurate.
I think you know perfectly well he's poor defensively and I think you know that Fernandes / Les appointments have been problematic. You just can't admit it.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Jan 13, 2020 16:24:32 GMT
How does your record stack up against theirs? You do almost nothing but fucking moan about them on here. Pretty well - in the sense that I'd give you decent odds that I'd do their job better than they would do mine. What would be more interesting would be if you adopted an evidence based approach and attempted to demonstrate how my previous observation was inaccurate. Â
I think you know perfectly well he's poor defensively and I think you know that Fernandes / Les appointments have been problematic. You just can't admit it.
We all know some of their appointments have been a mistake. They seem to be doing a better job of running things now though, wouldn’t you agree ? |
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Post by Corbray on Jan 13, 2020 18:22:50 GMT
I feel more positive about us than I have in a long time so do i in fairness, there's something about the team and our what they're trying to do on the pitch that makes me think MW is the right man for the job. we all lose our shit when we lose, especially right after the game when we're angry and question if he's the right man for the job. i like what he's trying to do though and that we're sticking with it whilst still looking good. the players look to be onboard with what he's doing and are trying their best to make it work. with the right signings in the summer we could have a good season next year imo |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 13, 2020 18:40:29 GMT
How does your record stack up against theirs? You do almost nothing but fucking moan about them on here. Pretty well - in the sense that I'd give you decent odds that I'd do their job better than they would do mine. What would be more interesting would be if you adopted an evidence based approach and attempted to demonstrate how my previous observation was inaccurate.
I think you know perfectly well he's poor defensively and I think you know that Fernandes / Les appointments have been problematic. You just can't admit it.
You should stick to your job and let them get on and do their job... without moaning and bitching about them at every opportunity. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 19:38:04 GMT
I feel more positive about us than I have in a long time so do i in fairness, there's something about the team and our what they're trying to do on the pitch that makes me think MW is the right man for the job. we all lose our shit when we lose, especially right after the game when we're angry and question if he's the right man for the job. i like what he's trying to do though and that we're sticking with it whilst still looking good. the players look to be onboard with what he's doing and are trying their best to make it work. with the right signings in the summer we could have a good season next year imo The big concern is the lack of doing the basics right and conceding the same goals game after game all season long and showing no signs of change or improvement on that front. Millwall are just outside the play offs due to being able to defend and keep it tight. Are they a better footballing team? I would suggest not even though the table says otherwise. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 13, 2020 19:41:19 GMT
Rowett decent manager. Poor mans Pearson
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Post by Rangers77 on Jan 13, 2020 20:24:42 GMT
I like Warburton. Old school. But this inability to defend is seriously vexing me tbh. 51 conceded in 27 is shocking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 20:44:26 GMT
Rowett decent manager. Poor mans Pearson Wanted Rowett when we ended up with Holloway. Very good manager with limited funds and resources. |
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Post by manti on Jan 14, 2020 0:18:02 GMT
Hi folks. Thought I'd leave it a few days. Forget the first half - I thought you were much improved 2nd half. In Rico Henry we have an excellent left back. BoS gave him a harder time than any other player this season in both games against us. I know you all enthuse over Eze but over the two games its BoS that's impressed me.
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Post by hal9thou on Jan 14, 2020 15:51:57 GMT
Pretty well - in the sense that I'd give you decent odds that I'd do their job better than they would do mine. What would be more interesting would be if you adopted an evidence based approach and attempted to demonstrate how my previous observation was inaccurate.
I think you know perfectly well he's poor defensively and I think you know that Fernandes / Les appointments have been problematic. You just can't admit it.
You should stick to your job and let them get on and do their job... without moaning and bitching about them at every opportunity. It's arrogant I know, but I feel that my 58 year stretch has earned me that right to say exactly what I think. Including a couple of occasions when I think he got it right. Emperor's new clothes syndrome really doesn't help anyone. |
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Post by West Acton on Jan 14, 2020 16:31:41 GMT
Hi folks. Thought I'd leave it a few days. Forget the first half - I thought you were much improved 2nd half. In Rico Henry we have an excellent left back. BoS gave him a harder time than any other player this season in both games against us. I know you all enthuse over Eze but over the two games its BoS that's impressed me. my Brentford mate said that was hardest game Henry had this season up against BOS. I thought BOS was terrible and Henry had him in his pocket |
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Post by esoxlucius on Jan 14, 2020 16:48:17 GMT
I am completely aware of the shortcomings in the side and, as I can't possibly have any input into changing it, nor the qualifications to do so, I am in the process of trying to defer from commenting on those shortcomings as I know, from my days of playing, that I didn't need anyone to tell me that I had fucked up as, I can assure you, I knew. Just because someone has chosen to be a professional footballer it doesn't mean that they have to accept vitriolic abuse as a part and parcel of doing so. With fifty eight years of following the R's under your belt can I assume that you have kids, and possibly grandkids? How would you feel if you went to watch them play in their chosen sports with a load of cunts shouting abuse at them at every little mistake, or perceived mistake? I saw this happen in the Hillingdon U10's league years ago and I took my son out of the team and took him to Uxbridge Cricket Club where this behaviour is pretty much unheard of. He didn't like it but he, and his team mates were quite unnerved hearing adults screaming abuse at nine year olds. It's no different when it comes to screaming abuse at young men playing their sport either. We still haven't eradicated racism from football, we are a long way from eradicating homophobia from football and we are a fucking long way from eradicating bullying from football, because that is exactly what it is, bullying.
In deference to the members on here, I enjoy coming on here the most lately as this verbal bullying isn't so prevalent, and there is a lot of well reasoned critiquing after games. There are still a few whose initial reaction to any defeat is slate players who were involved and not factor in that maybe it was just that the opposition were better. I have said this many, many times; no-one ever got better by being constantly berated and undermined.
I look back now and I feel quite ashamed that I used to join in with the "Wanker, wanker, wanker Wilks" chants; all because he wasn't Rodney Marsh.
I am trying to stay off sites after a defeat now as it does get under my skin reading the abuse doled out to our players by people who say they are fans and it makes me feel that the bullies are winning and I am too cowardly to stand up to them but I don't want to spend my retirement getting stressed out so I take a step back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 22:00:17 GMT
I thought the purpose of a message board was to exchange opinions and debate your individual view. Me personally I am frustrated by how bad our defending has been throughout the season and the poor goals we give away with very little evidence shown thatwe are trying to improve this. Some of our play has been fantastic so not all negative towards the team and manager.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 14, 2020 23:09:32 GMT
I am completely aware of the shortcomings in the side and, as I can't possibly have any input into changing it, nor the qualifications to do so, I am in the process of trying to defer from commenting on those shortcomings as I know, from my days of playing, that I didn't need anyone to tell me that I had fucked up as, I can assure you, I knew. Just because someone has chosen to be a professional footballer it doesn't mean that they have to accept vitriolic abuse as a part and parcel of doing so. With fifty eight years of following the R's under your belt can I assume that you have kids, and possibly grandkids? How would you feel if you went to watch them play in their chosen sports with a load of cunts shouting abuse at them at every little mistake, or perceived mistake? I saw this happen in the Hillingdon U10's league years ago and I took my son out of the team and took him to Uxbridge Cricket Club where this behaviour is pretty much unheard of. He didn't like it but he, and his team mates were quite unnerved hearing adults screaming abuse at nine year olds. It's no different when it comes to screaming abuse at young men playing their sport either. We still haven't eradicated racism from football, we are a long way from eradicating homophobia from football and we are a fucking long way from eradicating bullying from football, because that is exactly what it is, bullying. In deference to the members on here, I enjoy coming on here the most lately as this verbal bullying isn't so prevalent, and there is a lot of well reasoned critiquing after games. There are still a few whose initial reaction to any defeat is slate players who were involved and not factor in that maybe it was just that the opposition were better. I have said this many, many times; no-one ever got better by being constantly berated and undermined. I look back now and I feel quite ashamed that I used to join in with the "Wanker, wanker, wanker Wilks" chants; all because he wasn't Rodney Marsh. I am trying to stay off sites after a defeat now as it does get under my skin reading the abuse doled out to our players by people who say they are fans and it makes me feel that the bullies are winning and I am too cowardly to stand up to them but I don't want to spend my retirement getting stressed out so I take a step back. I think I remember seeing the wanker score 5 in a match so not a complete wanker😂😂 |
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