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Post by Brian Wilson on Mar 20, 2020 9:10:14 GMT
Release the Covid-19 vaccine Les!!!!!!!
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Post by Bill on Mar 26, 2020 13:54:11 GMT
Is Les still working? Just wondered
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 5, 2020 18:12:40 GMT
Heard from a very good source that LF is on £600,000 a year. Do you think this is justified? No I don't. His managerial recruitment record is truly appalling. As I mentioned on the other thread: Here's the list under his watch: Ramsey, Hasselbaink, Holloway, McClaren, Warburton. When you compare that list to some of the names from here and Europe who have been available during that time, how inspired and visionary were these appointments? More importantly, what is the point in constantly changing the manager when the guy appointing them in the first place is the root cause of the problem? Further, even if they weren't all his appointments he's the only person on the board with footballing experience / knowledge. So where does the buck stop? Where is the accountability for all these dire decisions, one after the other? LF, by his own admission, literally said he was learning on the job (very early on in his tenure), as he'd had no prior experience. TF, our clown of a chairman who appointed him, clearly only did so as a PR exercise, knowing that he was a former club legend; as well as to deflect massive criticism away from himself at the time.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 5, 2020 18:18:20 GMT
Our recruitment policy for all staff is a joke. Think we only got 2 scouts and one of them delivers the milk to spurs.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 5, 2020 18:18:27 GMT
What’s sinton on
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 5, 2020 18:37:17 GMT
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 5, 2020 18:50:17 GMT
Heard from a very good source that LF is on £600,000 a year. Do you think this is justified? Here's the list under his watch: Ramsey, Hasselbaink, Holloway, McClaren, Warburton.
It's enough to make you weep.
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Post by James1979 on Dec 5, 2020 18:53:29 GMT
Wish Les would take the FA job. We don’t want him or need him. Take Warbs with you. All managers we’ve had have failed. You only have to look at teams they’ve gone to after us to know their level. Either no job or league 2!!
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 5, 2020 19:02:14 GMT
Heard from a very good source that LF is on £600,000 a year. Do you think this is justified? No I don't. His managerial recruitment record is truly appalling. As I mentioned on the other thread: Here's the list under his watch: Ramsey, Hasselbaink, Holloway, McClaren, Warburton. When you compare that list to some of the names from here and Europe who have been available during that time, how inspired and visionary were these appointments? More importantly, what is the point in constantly changing the manager when the guy appointing them in the first place is the root cause of the problem? Further, even if they weren't all his appointments he's the only person on the board with footballing experience / knowledge. So where does the buck stop? Where is the accountability for all these dire decisions, one after the other? LF, by his own admission, literally said he was learning on the job (very early on in his tenure), as he'd had no prior experience. TF, our clown of a chairman who appointed him, clearly only did so as a PR exercise, knowing that he was a former club legend; as well as to deflect massive criticism away from himself at the time. As usual. Just can't get over the fact since the minute he's walked in the door it's been shambles after shambles. No doubt he's wanted the best and tried (if you can call it that) but I do honestly believe he will go down as one of the worst QPR chairman in the history of the club. A totally calamitous tenure.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 5, 2020 20:49:57 GMT
I'd sack Ferdinand before sacking Warburton. Warbs is just the latest symptom in a long line of many. Treat the cause of the problem, not the symptoms. At least that'd be the intelligent thing to do. Otherwise they'll keep making the same managerial mistakes ad nauseum. The owners will save themselves a fortune in the process too, not to mention time and the increasing wrath and impatience of the fan-base - but it always comes back to what actually is their bigger vision for the club?
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Post by 1973ranger on Dec 5, 2020 20:54:15 GMT
I'd sack Ferdinand before sacking Warburton. Warbs is just the latest symptom in a long line of many. Treat the cause not the symptom. At least that'd be the intelligent thing to do. Otherwise they'll keep making the same managerial mistakes ad nauseum. The owners will save themselves a fortune in the process too, not to mention time and the increasing wrath and impatience of the fan-base - but it always comes back to what actually is their bigger vision for the club? Too kind Stan. Sack the bloody lot of them as going nowhere fast as things are.
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Post by James1979 on Dec 5, 2020 22:09:40 GMT
Back to the OP point. We’re beyond shit at the moment and yet we have a DoF on 600k? Absolutely ridiculous. No wonder he doesn’t want the FA job.
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Post by Bill on Dec 6, 2020 18:18:42 GMT
I'd sack Ferdinand before sacking Warburton. Warbs is just the latest symptom in a long line of many. Treat the cause of the problem, not the symptoms. At least that'd be the intelligent thing to do. Otherwise they'll keep making the same managerial mistakes ad nauseum. The owners will save themselves a fortune in the process too, not to mention time and the increasing wrath and impatience of the fan-base - but it always comes back to what actually is their bigger vision for the club? The club I feel has no vision at the moment. I feel the remit at the moment is to preserve our Championship status and everything that goes with that in the cheapest way possible. There will be no major signings and I think it will have to get a lot worse under MW before they even think about letting him go.We the fans have not got a clue what the budget is for a manager,if similar to player recruitment budget even me calling for Pearson might've way out of league. Think at the moment we have not really improved and yes we had Eze but players like that come along once in a blue moon. Until the board,the owners change their vision to a more positive ambitious status I cant see much changing no matter what is written or said by the fans. I think playing BOS is a mistake as he is a bad apple and wants away,only takes 1 to create dressing room unrest. To put in a nut shell most can see the problems throughout our club but it will be a long time waiting for change.As somebody else said the club is a very sick patient needing urgent surgery from top to bottom.
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Post by Stanley75 on Dec 17, 2020 15:57:14 GMT
A huge problem for us is that decent managerial candidates have seen the form book. They know that the incompetence of Les and the board is the stuff of legend. For years now I've seen Les as a major obstruction on the route to sound management. Apart from anything else, his salary could top up the gaffer fund. Point is, the losers off the park need sacking wholesale and that would be a condition laid down by any credible candidate. This post belongs in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 16:19:32 GMT
A huge problem for us is that decent managerial candidates have seen the form book. They know that the incompetence of Les and the board is the stuff of legend. For years now I've seen Les as a major obstruction on the route to sound management. Apart from anything else, his salary could top up the gaffer fund. Point is, the losers off the park need sacking wholesale and that would be a condition laid down by any credible candidate. This post belongs in this thread. Seen posts elsewhere saying some ex QPR players are expressing the same negative thoughts about Les Ferdinand being an obstacle to some Managers thoughts on taking the job.
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Post by Shania on Dec 17, 2020 16:39:27 GMT
Just out of interest,do Brentford have a DOF now? I think we should follow their way of running club from A to Z.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 16:53:31 GMT
Do Brentford have a DOF now? I think the Brentford owner Mathew Bentham has a more Hands on approach than our owners Shania..so I don’t think there’s any need for a DOF
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 17, 2020 16:56:54 GMT
They cut costs other ways few years back mainly by scrapping their academy.
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Post by Shania on Dec 17, 2020 17:06:33 GMT
Do Brentford have a DOF now? I think the Brentford owner Mathew Bentham has a more Hands on approach than our owners Shania..so I don’t think there’s any need for a DOF Ok. That`s why I feel that it`s about time that Head of recruitment Andrew Belk and his men takes on more reponsibility as far as recruitment generally is concerned. Why not include search for coaches and managers in that department aswell?
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Post by Shania on Dec 17, 2020 17:09:46 GMT
They cut costs other ways few years back mainly by scrapping their academy. That was a wise move, imo.
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Post by James1979 on Dec 17, 2020 18:03:03 GMT
Save 600k with DoF. Why does club our size need one?
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Dec 17, 2020 18:08:01 GMT
Maybe, as he a former pro they feel he knows the game from playing side. He's a name in the game. Dare I say a bame face in a high profile job fulfilling a diversity programme. Or they just fucking lazy and let him do and take all the shit. Take your pick.
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Post by hal9thou on Dec 17, 2020 18:18:38 GMT
Save 600k with DoF. Why does club our size need one?
It's a massive help in our constant quest to make the wrong managerial appointments.
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Post by Tarbie on Dec 17, 2020 22:16:45 GMT
Save 600k with DoF. Why does club our size need one? You'd have hoped he's taken a pay cut in the current climate.
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Post by manti on Dec 18, 2020 9:20:26 GMT
Just out of interest,do Brentford have a DOF now? I think we should follow their way of running club from A to Z. We have joint Directors of Football. Phil Giles and Razmus Anderson. Giles basically handles UK recruitment whilst Anderson does Europe. They both report into the Owner Matthew Benham. As is well known we use stats based data in our recruitment but all players are thoroughly scouted too plus they have to pass the No Dickheads Policy which is research into their background to ascertain their character. Actual purchases are decided by all 4 of MB the DoFs and Thomas Frank the Head Coach. Sales are conducted if they feel the players true value to The Club is being met. Every player has his price as demonstrated by the sales over the last 5 years which have generated some net £65m profit over cost. We all sort of expect our best players to be sold every season now which is why we tend to start each season slowly as new players are integrated into the "system".
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Post by Corbray on Dec 18, 2020 9:32:56 GMT
Just out of interest,do Brentford have a DOF now? I think we should follow their way of running club from A to Z. We have joint Directors of Football. Phil Giles and Razmus Anderson. Giles basically handles UK recruitment whilst Anderson does Europe. They both report into the Owner Matthew Benham. As is well known we use stats based data in our recruitment but all players are thoroughly scouted too plus they have to pass the No Dickheads Policy which is research into their background to ascertain their character. Actual purchases are decided by all 4 of MB the DoFs and Thomas Frank the Head Coach. Sales are conducted if they feel the players true value to The Club is being met. Every player has his price as demonstrated by the sales over the last 5 years which have generated some net £65m profit over cost. We all sort of expect our best players to be sold every season now which is why we tend to start each season slowly as new players are integrated into the "system". brentford are doing it right though season on season. you don't replace a sale with some 50k signing or freebie, its a player with a lot of potential who's cost you a few million so its a steady process of gradually improving the team year on year. as much as i dislike brentford i admire how well run the club is. they're a small side who don't splash the cash but are excellently run
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Post by manti on Dec 18, 2020 10:16:45 GMT
We have joint Directors of Football. Phil Giles and Razmus Anderson. Giles basically handles UK recruitment whilst Anderson does Europe. They both report into the Owner Matthew Benham. As is well known we use stats based data in our recruitment but all players are thoroughly scouted too plus they have to pass the No Dickheads Policy which is research into their background to ascertain their character. Actual purchases are decided by all 4 of MB the DoFs and Thomas Frank the Head Coach. Sales are conducted if they feel the players true value to The Club is being met. Every player has his price as demonstrated by the sales over the last 5 years which have generated some net £65m profit over cost. We all sort of expect our best players to be sold every season now which is why we tend to start each season slowly as new players are integrated into the "system". brentford are doing it right though season on season. you don't replace a sale with some 50k signing or freebie, its a player with a lot of potential who's cost you a few million so its a steady process of gradually improving the team year on year. as much as i dislike brentford i admire how well run the club is. they're a small side who don't splash the cash but are excellently run Sorry that's a good point I missed. Purchases mostly have to be young players with potential who we think we can help to improve. We very rarely sign older players who are at their peak whose value wont increase. The 2 exceptions were Andreas Bjelland who promptly got injured for a year and Pontus Jannson who approached us wanting to join us. Apparently the conversation went - him: I want to join Brentford, us:great but we cant afford you, him: how much can you afford, us: whatever it was, him: great when do I sign. Or words to that effect.
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Post by Shania on Dec 18, 2020 10:40:41 GMT
Just out of interest,do Brentford have a DOF now? I think we should follow their way of running club from A to Z. We have joint Directors of Football. Phil Giles and Razmus Anderson. Giles basically handles UK recruitment whilst Anderson does Europe. They both report into the Owner Matthew Benham. As is well known we use stats based data in our recruitment but all players are thoroughly scouted too plus they have to pass the No Dickheads Policy which is research into their background to ascertain their character. Actual purchases are decided by all 4 of MB the DoFs and Thomas Frank the Head Coach. Sales are conducted if they feel the players true value to The Club is being met. Every player has his price as demonstrated by the sales over the last 5 years which have generated some net £65m profit over cost. We all sort of expect our best players to be sold every season now which is why we tend to start each season slowly as new players are integrated into the "system". I think Rasmus Ankersen is involved in FC Midtjylland aswell and like you seem to imply, he is very successful in what he is doing. On a sidenote: I think we are exspanding our scouting network these days by bringing in a new scout. That`s a good sign.
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Post by manti on Dec 18, 2020 11:04:23 GMT
We have joint Directors of Football. Phil Giles and Razmus Anderson. Giles basically handles UK recruitment whilst Anderson does Europe. They both report into the Owner Matthew Benham. As is well known we use stats based data in our recruitment but all players are thoroughly scouted too plus they have to pass the No Dickheads Policy which is research into their background to ascertain their character. Actual purchases are decided by all 4 of MB the DoFs and Thomas Frank the Head Coach. Sales are conducted if they feel the players true value to The Club is being met. Every player has his price as demonstrated by the sales over the last 5 years which have generated some net £65m profit over cost. We all sort of expect our best players to be sold every season now which is why we tend to start each season slowly as new players are integrated into the "system". I think Rasmus Ankersen is involved in FC Midtjylland aswell and like you seem to imply, he is very successful in what he is doing. On a sidenote: I think we are exspanding our scouting network these days by bringing in a new scout. That`s a good sign. Yes he is and thank you for correcting my spelling! In fact FC Midtjylland is also owned by Matthew Benham. There is talk of the recruitment operations of both teams being merged.
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Post by Shania on Dec 18, 2020 11:11:08 GMT
I think Rasmus Ankersen is involved in FC Midtjylland aswell and like you seem to imply, he is very successful in what he is doing. On a sidenote: I think we are exspanding our scouting network these days by bringing in a new scout. That`s a good sign. Yes he is and thank you for correcting my spelling! In fact FC Midtjylland is also owned by Matthew Benham. There is talk of the recruitment operations of both teams being merged. Ok. Thank you, and no problem.
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