2020/21 Summer transfer rumour thread

Been with us since 2016 and we still got a year left on his contract.

Brum rumoured to have pocket loads of cash on the way with Bellingham  Offski .

Ex premier manager Darren Moore recently said Seny Dieng is good enough to play in premiership

Sounds like Les has already agreed transfer fee as brum are speaking to player.

If we get £10m plus add ons will Hitman buy Les a Falafei ?

Plenty other teams seem to rate him. The club that has him seem to not give a fack.

If they rate him,why sell him allegedly?,and not punt Joanna out on loan

Don’t think brum would buy him..they gave David Seaman away to us in 86 🤣

lumley was pretty good last season tbh, if we did sell him at the start of this season and only had kelly and dieng as keepers then people would have moaned lol

That depends how they define "good money for him". We'd get a lot more money for him if he'd had 1st team experience with us. So it still makes less financial sense to sell him when he looks a more talented keeper than Lumley, and possibly, with further experience could even challenge Kelly. We'd therefore be better off hanging on to him for now IMO, and look to shift Lumley on instead (or demote Lumley to 3rd keeper or loan him out).

To an extent I agree with what you say but Lumley was in the same position as Seny, and considered by the club to be a better prospect, and look how that has ended up. In his last game Dieng fucked up at the back and it resulted in a goal to the opposition. His manager said afterwards that he wanted him to carry on they way he played as he understood that mistakes happen. Contrast that with the dogs abuse that Joe was getting, even to being blamed for goals that weren't down to him but defenders mistakes after a while. If we can get £500k for Dieng it might be doing him a big favour in the long run. Our supporters are so toxic when things aren't going their way, both at the games and on social media. You only have to look at what happened to Josh Scowen to see that. There are too many "fans" that only appear when they get a chance to slag off the team or the club and even after a win, if they appear at all, there is usually a barb or a criticism of some part of the game rather than support for the winning of the three points. 

That's one example. Kelly makes mistakes too, as do all keepers.


Our supporters are no more 'toxic' than your average club. What happened with Lumley and Scowen would happen at most clubs, especially city based championship and higher ones. It's part and parcel of the modern game and social media. Players have to live with that and offset such occupational hazards against their big salaries. Mental fortitude is a big factor in how well modern day footballers fare in their careers. It's an inescapable reality.

I maintain we'd be better of keeping Dieng.

There is a reason why every EFL player wears the mental health logo on their shirt. How many stories have we read of just the QPR players suffering from mental health issues and addiction problems? These are kids in the spotlight being harangued by people who, if it was their son out there, would be looking to crack skulls. It should be a shameful thing that you accept that what happened to Scowen & Lumley as acceptable, and part and parcel of what modern football is all about. Have you ever been in a job where having abuse screamed at them made someone perform better? Think back to the Luton game; we were three nil up, Joe was playing well but he made a mistake which led to their first goal. You could feel his soul leave his body as he knew what was coming and sure enough, within seconds he was getting dogs abuse. Strangely his performance never recovered to what it was before his mistake. Picture a number of games where Hugill & Eze have both missed "gimme" goals. The crowd let out a collective "FFS how did he miss that?" and a minute later it is forgotten about.  Joe, as a goalkeeper received far more scrutiny and you could see his faith in himself ebb away week after week of listening to the pricks in the crowd booing him and shouting abuse at him. That is not acceptable and if Dieng runs his contract down and leaves then so be it if it means he isn't subjected to the abuse Joe received. A lot of QPR fans are cunts for the way they treat our players and until it improves we will see a lot of good youngsters destroyed. It's not as if it is a latter day thing, I remember the abuse that kids like Matt Brazier, Trevor Challis, Steve Slade etc. received from the crowd before they had hardly time to settle in to the side and gain some experience. 
I apologise if I seem a bit rabid on this subject but I fucking hate seeing our own fans booing and abusing our players at games, it sickens me. Save it for the opposition.

I never said you did if you read back, I carefully avoided pointing the finger at you personally as I find you to be a fair and reasoned debater. I was putting my viewpoint over that anyone who thinks what happened to Josh & Joe is acceptable is flat out wrong.

I can remember honest players getting dogs abuse in the past..Mick Leach Alan Wilks , even Terry Mancini when he first came was laughed at due to his limited technical ability but went on to be a fans favourite. It’s part of our culture at Rangers to have a boo boy and probably the same elsewhere.

I can remember being humiliated in front of work colleagues by my supervisor for making a mistake when I was a lot younger but I thought “I will never let him get that opportunity to do that again “ Most people become better at what they do if their able to accept the flak if it’s justified..it’s down to each individual how they react.

Maybe nowadays with more social media around youngsters are susceptible to sustained abuse from fans but more fool them for leaving themselves open to it.

I grew up in Hammersmith and eventually my parents moved to Shepherds Bush in late 60s.

When I asked my Father why he started going to Rangers instead of Chelsea or Fulham he said “ I used to like it better at Rangers because you could shout swear and be disorderly “ which he said he could not do in public at the time.

Time changes but people don’t Esox.

Agree.

In fact, I would rather see how a sack of spuds between the posts gets on than give poppadom Joe another chance

with all due respect Lumley does not have fans on his back because of one mistake they have been multiple and frequent