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Post by James1979 on Mar 14, 2019 7:20:20 GMT
When we got relegated, I wanted McInnes from Aberdeen. Is he too big for us now? I’d do all we could to get him in the summer.
As for now, in cold light of day, I think I’d probably stick with McLaren until end of season.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 7:46:15 GMT
When we got relegated, I wanted McInnes from Aberdeen. Is he too big for us now? I’d do all we could to get him in the summer. As for now, in cold light of day, I think I’d probably stick with McLaren until end of season. Don't think McInnes would come here mate. He's overachieving at Aberdeen and his stock will continue to rise there. The QPR job is a poisoned chalice. It's been more or less the final nail in the coffin for the careers of most of our recent managers. You could argue they were all bad managers, but I think the infrastructure at the club is just bad. And nowadays we don't even have Tony's cheque book to dig us out of the shit.
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 14, 2019 8:14:23 GMT
Make no mistake, if this run continues we are bang in trouble! As I said on another thread I can't see Rotherham getting the 7 points they need, even if we lose our last 9 games. They have: H Norwich A Derby H Nottingham H Aston Villa A Stoke A Swansea H Birmingham A West Brom H Middlesbrough I know it's the Championship, and you get freak results, but I just can't for the life of me see 7 points for them there.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 14, 2019 8:16:13 GMT
When we got relegated, I wanted McInnes from Aberdeen. Is he too big for us now? I’d do all we could to get him in the summer. As for now, in cold light of day, I think I’d probably stick with McLaren until end of season. Don't think McInnes would come here mate. He's overachieving at Aberdeen and his stock will continue to rise there. The QPR job is a poisoned chalice. It's been more or less the final nail in the coffin for the careers of most of our recent managers. You could argue they were all bad managers, but I think the infrastructure at the club is just bad. And nowadays we don't even have Tony's cheque book to dig us out of the shit. When has that ever dug us out of the shit before mate!!
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 14, 2019 8:18:18 GMT
Bolton need 4 wins and 2 draws from their last 9. Won't happen either IMO, and you can forget Ipswich. They're already gone.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 14, 2019 8:32:38 GMT
Bolton need 4 wins and 2 draws from their last 9. Won't happen either IMO, and you can forget Ipswich. They're already gone. I am assuming Bolton and Ipswich are toast (although they can bank on three points at our place the way we are playing!) It is that third position that worries me. As I said before the game a draw would have been ok last night in that respect. Although we would all have been questioning that awful display still I am sure.
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Post by James1979 on Mar 14, 2019 8:35:02 GMT
Depressing times to say the least. In McLaren’s defence he is missing Cameron and Rangel. And for our squad like ours that’s massive.
Take Cameron - we’ve been lacking a big strong defensive midfielder for years. Too many times eg Preston, the midfield 3 get bullied.
Rangel - when signed, people moaned about lack of chances for Furlong. Well I think recent months have shown Furlong is no Championship right back.
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 14, 2019 8:35:02 GMT
Draw had been immense in that regard CCJ. But can you see Rotherham getting 7 points from the list above?
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 8:37:33 GMT
Agree with the sentiments DK, but it's criminal that we are needing to bank on other sides to lose, because we don't trust ourselves to find a win in our remaining games. Feels like groundhog day!
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Post by 1qprdk on Mar 14, 2019 8:38:45 GMT
Criminal indeed, Tarbie.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 8:40:53 GMT
Don't think McInnes would come here mate. He's overachieving at Aberdeen and his stock will continue to rise there. The QPR job is a poisoned chalice. It's been more or less the final nail in the coffin for the careers of most of our recent managers. You could argue they were all bad managers, but I think the infrastructure at the club is just bad. And nowadays we don't even have Tony's cheque book to dig us out of the shit. When has that ever dug us out of the shop before mate!! Fair point mate........would be nice to have the money to sign a player when we needed to though, wouldn't it?!!
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 8:42:47 GMT
Hope you're right though mate. But strange things can happen in the last few games of a season when some sides are fighting for their lives, and other teams have already got their eyes on their summer holidays!
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 14, 2019 8:43:33 GMT
When has that ever dug us out of the shop before mate!! Fair point mate........would be nice to have the money to sign a player when we needed to though, wouldn't it?!! It would mate.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Mar 14, 2019 8:44:50 GMT
Draw had been immense in that regard CCJ. But can you see Rotherham getting 7 points from the list above? I can actually. Hopefully we will get a few more ourselves though.
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Post by MattyRangers on Mar 14, 2019 9:12:03 GMT
You know what, despite my frustrations & how turd we have been of late (refer my last post on another thread) I don't think I want him sacked. We have hired & fired way too much in recent years, and we always end up in the same position. The club is the common denominator, and given the situation & the crop of players we have, I really don't think anybody we could realistically attract could do any more for us.
The club need to have a long hard look at where they think we are headed. I appreciate the financial restraints, but we HAVE TO spend a bit of money in the summer. We all know Freeman will be off, and without him we will be bang in trouble next season IMHO.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 9:20:16 GMT
You know what, despite my frustrations & how turd we have been of late (refer my last post on another thread) I don't think I want him sacked. We have hired & fired way too much in recent years, and we always end up in the same position. The club is the common denominator, and given the situation & the crop of players we have, I really don't think anybody we could realistically attract could do any more for us. The club need to have a long hard look at where they think we are headed. I appreciate the financial restraints, but we HAVE TO spend a bit of money in the summer. We all know Freeman will be off, and without him we will be bang in trouble next season IMHO. From what I've heard mate, there is a hole in our finances to the tune of about 6m quid for next season. This to me means that we will be losing the likes of Pav, Bidwell etc. on a free in the summer plus the sale of at least one of Freeman and Eze. I assume this is the thinking behind sending so many youngster out on loan. We are checking which ones can step up to the first team next season. My biggest concern is that I don't see any expertise in the club at the moment capable of building a Championship squad on our current budget. And for that reason I'd favour bringing in someone like Jackett, Ainsworth or maybe even Warnock (if Cardiff let him go) in the summer.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 14, 2019 11:24:11 GMT
We have hired & fired way too much in recent years... But have we though? In this day and age there are plenty of examples of clubs who have changed more than we have and done better. The days when it took something momentous to unseat the gaffer have gone. Like I said re Ollie and his predecessors, we are suffering from a dysfunctional boardroom. They are the people who have made a series of questionable appointments and some catastrophic decisions (FFP etc). No one looks like they're playing for SMac anymore - same thing happened with Ollie - and when that happens the board has to act. Otherwise revenue will drop further. It's a very simple equation.
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Post by lymehoop on Mar 14, 2019 11:43:48 GMT
got to go and ask Ramsey to caretake to the end of the season
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 12:09:01 GMT
got to go and ask Ramsey to caretake to the end of the season Personally I don't think that route is worth the upheaval. Might well happen though!
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Post by hubble on Mar 14, 2019 12:28:37 GMT
What the board need to do is haul McClaren over the coals. He's responsible and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, which is all a sacking will achieve, along with yet more turmoil.
Les and Lee need to tell him: pull yourself together and sort it out. No more excuses. He knew the state of the club when he joined.
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Post by Tarbie on Mar 14, 2019 12:38:55 GMT
What the board need to do is haul McClaren over the coals. He's responsible and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, which is all a sacking will achieve, along with yet more turmoil. Les and Lee need to tell him: pull yourself together and sort it out. No more excuses. He knew the state of the club when he joined. Totally agree mate. And the same sentiments need to be passed from McClaren to the team!
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 14, 2019 13:52:22 GMT
In this day and age there are plenty of examples of clubs who have changed more than we have and done better. If not more than we have, certainly quicker than we have, which is arguably just as important i.e. before the rot sets in.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 14, 2019 14:25:28 GMT
In this day and age there are plenty of examples of clubs who have changed more than we have and done better. If not more than we have, certainly quicker than we have, which is arguably just as important i.e. before the rot sets in. yeah that's more to the point.
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Post by hubble on Mar 14, 2019 17:39:02 GMT
Looks like Amit agrees - hope he gives McClaren and the players a rocket.
Amit Bhatia Verified account @amit_Bhatia99 18h18 hours ago More Tweeting late in the night bc it’s taken me this long to recover from tonight’s horrific performance and horrendous result. Last game was bad, tonight was even worse. We have got to work hard and see this season out positively now. Thanks to our fans for their continued support.
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Post by 72bus on Mar 14, 2019 18:46:24 GMT
let him sit it out to the end of the season , then get rid , look to the lower leagues to someone that show's a bit of spirit
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Post by theblob on Mar 14, 2019 19:42:40 GMT
Would seriously consider a punt on David Wagner.
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Post by qprjeff1882 on Mar 14, 2019 20:47:39 GMT
Maybe the Lincoln manager or Jacket if he doesn't get Portsmouth up. I would normally say if the board are to sack Steve then now would be better than the end of the season as any new man would need to assess the squad in real games before seeing what he can do to improve the players and team and also to assess what happens in terms of recruitment for next season. But that all depends on who we would go for and if they are currently involved in another club/promotion battle as per my selections.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 14, 2019 20:56:23 GMT
Love Amit but he’s like TF he’s plays to the crowd he’s just slicker at it
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Post by acricketer on Mar 14, 2019 21:26:21 GMT
Why would you own a football club when you have billions to spend and aren't allowed to spend it? Oh, I know..some property deal will turn up.
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Post by bluehoop on Mar 14, 2019 21:42:59 GMT
I'm as fed up as any one with the performances of late. I am yet to miss a game this season and, as James said earlier I really believe the loss of Cameron and Rangel has had a massive impact on things. We didn't perform before they arrived, a lot of people thought the upturn was down to securing two strikers in Wells and Hemed, but I always saw it as being those two. Cameron was magnificent home and away, week after week and Rangel never stopped talking to everyone, marshaling everyone and thereby making everyone more relaxed. That run of clean sheets was not a coincidence in my eyes.
It was this manager that identified those two and it is this manager that has been without them for months. They are both about due back so why not let him prove his point or not?
We are not going down, so no hysterics are needed on that front,and I still prefer to go home and away than waste my time shopping with the wife and kids, so chill people. Appoint someone in the summer, fine, stick with SMc, fine, do whatever but ffs don't sack him now, pay a shed load of compo and replace him with someone no better placed to deal with the shite caused (in my humble) by the total whanker that was Mark Hughes and his pimp Joorabchian
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