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Post by Bill on Mar 18, 2024 15:33:57 GMT
Dont know about Turkish days but remember Gerry put him and other players on strict diet and had LF on weights exercises to build him up
I used to talk to the Physio back in them days.
BRIAN cant remember his surname only repeating what i was told.
Just came to me Morris was his name
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Post by Bill on Mar 18, 2024 15:36:49 GMT
Under the guidance of Gerry Francis it took longer for Ferdinand to gain the neccessary diet build,guile and stamina. And he never aquired the knowledge to be a successful DOF  No |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 18, 2024 15:40:25 GMT
Dont know about Turkish days but remember Gerry put him and other players on strict diet and had LF on weights exercises to build him up I used to talk to the Physio back in them days. BRIAN cant remember his surname only repeating what i was told. Just came to me Morris was his name I remember same stories Bill. Those were the days when the modern thinking about diet, nutrition and training methods was taking off. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Mar 18, 2024 16:49:07 GMT
I hope all the optimism shown towards him turns into some big positives but I’m still not convinced by him. No doubt has strength and pace but the game is so much more than that. Is he really that promising? Play him over Donkey every time because at least he makes something happen, but he’s not the answer long term. Two big improvements in his game - no longer offside all the time (timed runs really well Saturday) and looks up to cross. Would have been an assist for the three points if Willock had kept his footing. In an ideal world if we could bring in two new strikers over the summer you would loan him out to a good league 1 side next season with the condition he plays every game when fit, or even somewhere abroad where they might be more into diet/ fitness/ condition coaching. Then we will find out if he really can be a 15 goal a season striker. My fear about him is that he has bulked up too much so he is too heavy. There is a reason why heavyweight boxers wouldn't make it as marathon runners. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 18, 2024 16:59:42 GMT
Exactly
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Post by Bill on Mar 18, 2024 17:04:05 GMT
So its not a quick fix. A bit of conditioning,attitude,how much he wants it all come into the equation. I still think he still has a bright future but in a world where people want it now, tolerance and patience are slim on the ground. |
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Post by West Acton on Mar 22, 2024 20:05:13 GMT
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 23, 2024 6:54:23 GMT
Got two.
Good for the confidence.
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Post by West Acton on Mar 23, 2024 6:58:32 GMT
Is that three games in row he’s netted for Irish?
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Post by acricketer on Mar 23, 2024 9:47:03 GMT
Only down as scoring one according to BBC
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Post by hubble on Mar 23, 2024 9:50:24 GMT
He scored two according to RTE. Joe Hodge also featured. Nice easy training for them = good for us.
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 23, 2024 10:50:48 GMT
Only down as scoring one according to BBC |
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Post by West Acton on Apr 7, 2024 13:05:09 GMT
Not to promote another site but a very interesting thread on LFW along same lines of what Jimmy asked regards if he is worthy of a contract extension.
Would appear patience is running out.
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Post by acricketer on Apr 7, 2024 14:46:37 GMT
It doesn't help that we need him now because of the striker sanctuary we have amassed.
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Post by West Acton on Apr 7, 2024 14:57:33 GMT
It doesn't help that we need him now because of the striker sanctuary we have amassed. cracking point we’ve absolutely put him in the spotlight. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Apr 7, 2024 15:30:29 GMT
It doesn't help that we need him now because of the striker sanctuary we have amassed. Desperation, that’s why so much was expected of him. Reality took a back seat. |
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Post by Hitman34 on Apr 7, 2024 16:56:30 GMT
is there no striker in the reserves or u21s who we can give a game to, or are they shit too.
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Post by Stanley75 on Apr 7, 2024 17:50:17 GMT
It doesn't help that we need him now In all honestly I don't think we do |
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 4, 2024 16:35:08 GMT
What has happened to him? Our most passionate player has looked uninterested for weeks now.
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Post by Shania on May 4, 2024 16:48:28 GMT
He seemed focused and sharp enough in short cameo today, I thought. Whatever cameo really means though.  |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 4, 2024 17:02:07 GMT
Think he more hyped than supreme
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Post by Shania on May 4, 2024 17:15:23 GMT
No doubt he has a lot to learn.
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Post by alanwycombe on May 4, 2024 17:20:17 GMT
Whether he’s any good or not is a debate but I am amazed HOW good some people think he is. Guy standing next to me today was drooling when he came on and after one touch (which was pretty decent tbf) that kept a move going he looked down at his daughter and said ‘he’s a fantastic player’.
No he isn’t.
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Post by West Acton on May 5, 2024 20:11:32 GMT
I’m actually pleased to read he knows he’s underachieved hopefully means he works hard on areas he’s not so good at
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Post by jfrabbit on May 6, 2024 14:05:53 GMT
So would you give him a contact extension??
I’m going to think of all the times I’ve watched him. His play. His ability. His attitude. His impact. His goal / assists. His overall contribution.
For me it’s a no.
I would let him go or sell whatever is our best option.
I do acknowledge, he probably wasn’t ever ready for this level which is slightly unfair on him but sometimes that’s the best way to learn and for me he just doesn’t offer enough. I feel there is some potential in there but not at championship level.
I’d be interested to hear others opinions.
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Post by hal9thou on May 6, 2024 14:16:05 GMT
Yeah I make that about right Jimmy.
In an ideal world we'd be talking loan, but the problem there is the contractual side of it ie who pays the wedge etc. Your league one teams might struggle if they had to bear 100% of the financial burden.
I think he'd come on a bit with the right loan, but the books have to be balanced and you have to ask yourself if he'd come on enough.
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Post by jfrabbit on May 6, 2024 14:22:41 GMT
Yeah I make that about right Jimmy. In an ideal world we'd be talking loan, but the problem there is the contractual side of it ie who pays the wedge etc. Your league one teams might struggle if they had to bear 100% of the financial burden. I think he'd come on a bit with the right loan, but the books have to be balanced and you have to ask yourself if he'd come on enough. You’re right. I just don’t see a lot of improvement since he first got into the side. Same mistakes, same issues, same lack of goals and assists and for me had adequate minutes. Got to draw the line somewhere. A loan won’t make him any better at this level IMO. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 6, 2024 14:53:58 GMT
Am 50/50 on him. A lot depends on who else and how many we can bring in. Would be interested to see what he looked like after 40 games in league one. Marti taught him the offside rule so he can be coached. But he does struggle with some basics. A lot of young strikers who aren’t yet clinical enough are started out wide but he can’t dribble.
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Post by jfrabbit on May 6, 2024 15:09:28 GMT
You’re right about who we bring in. If we can only afford one decent striker, then he definitely has to stay.
I’ve got a sneaky feeling Marti will want to keep the fucking jock.
Because he’s produced on the last couple occasions I think he’ll see him as dependable but we all know over time he dog shit. I really hope he’s seen enough to let go.
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 6, 2024 15:26:02 GMT
I’m actually pleased to read he knows he’s underachieved hopefully means he works hard on areas he’s not so good at Then why hasn't he worked hard before? I would let him go. |
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