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Post by spongeparr on May 6, 2024 17:25:16 GMT
Too old to be going on loan to develop, in my opinion.
I'd keep him, pretty sure he's fairly cheap and if he doesn't kick on then get rid.
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Post by jfrabbit on May 6, 2024 20:50:02 GMT
Too old to be going on loan to develop, in my opinion. I'd keep him, pretty sure he's fairly cheap and if he doesn't kick on then get rid. Fair point. Probably still on his development contract or whatever he was on before he got thrown in or has he signed a new one? |
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Post by Stanley75 on May 6, 2024 21:00:16 GMT
Too old to be going on loan to develop, in my opinion. I'd keep him, pretty sure he's fairly cheap and if he doesn't kick on then get rid. Fair point. Probably still on his development contract or whatever he was on before he got thrown in or has he signed a new one? Contract up at the end of June with the option of another year. |
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Post by 1qprdk on May 7, 2024 7:09:02 GMT
I'd keep him too. Renew contract for a couple of years. If we bring in better options, then send him out on loan for a season with a recall option.
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Post by 2Loftus on May 8, 2024 17:36:08 GMT
Yes, he's still got time to develop.
Just hope he can finally learn the off-side law over the summer...
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Post by alanwycombe on May 8, 2024 18:33:36 GMT
What has he got apart from pace? I’d love to see a young player ‘develop’ but EVERYTHING needs improving hugely, a lot more than developing - and he’s 20, should have more by now.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 8, 2024 18:36:41 GMT
What has he got apart from pace? I’d love to see a young player ‘develop’ but EVERYTHING needs improving hugely, a lot more than developing - and he’s 20, should have more by now. He doesn't get caught offside as often ☺ |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 18:39:06 GMT
What has he got apart from pace? I’d love to see a young player ‘develop’ but EVERYTHING needs improving hugely, a lot more than developing - and he’s 20, should have more by now. As I said on a number of occasions, there are a lot of people out there who convinced themselves that he's the next Clive Allen or Kevin Gallen but there's absolutely nothing in his career to date to suggest he's anything of that ilk or even half that good. He's not been prolific at ANY level. |
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Post by James1979 on May 8, 2024 18:40:54 GMT
What has he got apart from pace? I’d love to see a young player ‘develop’ but EVERYTHING needs improving hugely, a lot more than developing - and he’s 20, should have more by now. As I said on a number of occasions, there are a lot of people out there who convinced themselves that he's the next Clive Allen or Kevin Gallen but there's absolutely nothing in his career to date to suggest he's anything of that ilk or even half that good. He's not been prolific at ANY level. Well he’s a completely different type of player to those 2. His main attributes are pace and power. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 18:42:11 GMT
As I said on a number of occasions, there are a lot of people out there who convinced themselves that he's the next Clive Allen or Kevin Gallen but there's absolutely nothing in his career to date to suggest he's anything of that ilk or even half that good. He's not been prolific at ANY level. Well he’s a completely different type of player to those 2. His main attributes are pace and power. Which will only get you so far... He's shown absolutely nothing at any level to suggest he has a good nevermind great career as a professional footballer. Forwards who don't score are as popular as flat chested strippers for a reason... |
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Post by James1979 on May 8, 2024 18:43:04 GMT
As I said on a number of occasions, there are a lot of people out there who convinced themselves that he's the next Clive Allen or Kevin Gallen but there's absolutely nothing in his career to date to suggest he's anything of that ilk or even half that good. He's not been prolific at ANY level. Well he’s a completely different type of player to those 2. His main attributes are pace and power. Yeah I’m not convinced either but I’m not writing him off either. Give him a full season with Marti and then let’s judge him. |
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Post by West Acton on May 8, 2024 18:59:13 GMT
What has he got apart from pace? I’d love to see a young player ‘develop’ but EVERYTHING needs improving hugely, a lot more than developing - and he’s 20, should have more by now. He doesn't get caught offside as often ☺ hard To be caught offside on the bench. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on May 8, 2024 19:02:00 GMT
Strikers have either got it or not.
You can coach train as much as u want but it’s a natural god given gift. By his age if he not comfortable banging in goals he never going to be. That’s why the gifted ones command the gravy and the rest are wannabes
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 20:53:22 GMT
Yes let him go,like others and live to regret it.
Who you going to get to replace Frey,Dykes,Armstrong or Kelman realistically or even all of them?
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 20:57:53 GMT
Some journeyman for a last payday,an untried unproven youngster at this level or another Frey.
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 21:05:14 GMT
Answers on a postcard.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2024 21:06:31 GMT
Yes let him go,like others and live to regret it. Who you going to get to replace Frey,Dykes,Armstrong or Kelman realistically or even all of them? Or keep him for years in the hope that he turns it around and waste his chance to salvage a career elsewhere... |
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Post by Bill on May 8, 2024 21:23:31 GMT
Yes let him go,like others and live to regret it. Who you going to get to replace Frey,Dykes,Armstrong or Kelman realistically or even all of them? Or keep him for years in the hope that he turns it around and waste his chance to salvage a career elsewhere... So who you going to get answer the question. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 5:39:48 GMT
Or keep him for years in the hope that he turns it around and waste his chance to salvage a career elsewhere... So who you going to get answer the question. I'm not responsible for signing players. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 9, 2024 7:22:17 GMT
Or keep him for years in the hope that he turns it around and waste his chance to salvage a career elsewhere... So who you going to get answer the question. To be fair I'm sure when the release lists for the Championship and Premier League are out you'd probably find a good handful of strikers on them that would be better options than Armstrong. Whether we can afford the wages is another matter. |
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Post by Bill on May 9, 2024 11:34:32 GMT
So who you going to get answer the question. I'm not responsible for signing players. As i suspected all mouth and no trousers. |
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Post by Bill on May 9, 2024 11:36:18 GMT
So who you going to get answer the question. To be fair I'm sure when the release lists for the Championship and Premier League are out you'd probably find a good handful of strikers on them that would be better options than Armstrong. Whether we can afford the wages is another matter. Exactly there will be but can we afford better than we have? Risk and reward is always a difficult conundrum. |
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Post by Bill on May 9, 2024 11:38:34 GMT
Interesting no viable suggestions yet that are financially feasible and better than we already have.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 12:03:10 GMT
I'm not responsible for signing players. As i suspected all mouth and no trousers. Not really, just someone who can admit that he's not a great player, quite possibly will never be and that I don't have access to the released list of players to identify who we could bring in even if it was my job... If he was as good as you say or expected to be half the player you want him to turn out to be he wouldn’t be at QPR still... |
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Post by Corbray on May 9, 2024 12:51:50 GMT
Interesting no viable suggestions yet that are financially feasible and better than we already have. i'm a big fan of armstrong too and like you think he will come good one day but based on last season i don't think he's the man to lead the line next season, could and hopefully am wrong but at this stage he probably needs a loan to league 1 for six months or so. as for targets, my personal choice would be langstaff of notts county. guy is a goalscoring machine and could be available for cheap. aside from him there are many examples of unearthed gems being dug up by championship clubs and going on to bigger and better things, joel piroe and gyokores spring to mind as some of the more recent ones. |
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Post by West Acton on May 9, 2024 13:08:22 GMT
The time for a loan has passed that should have been season passed with him coming back for the up and coming season ready to go but we messed it up.
It’s time to bite the bullet as a club we’ve held on to players to long in the past hoping they will come good wasting money we dont have which could have been used elsewhere. Kelman joined at same age as Armstrong three seasons ago and for all the hope has delivered nothing. Between the two we’ve wasted six years worth of salary on two strikers who don’t know where the goal is at what point do we as fans and clubs say thanks guys we need try something else (applies dykes too)
I personally think we’ve seen all the development you’re going to get from him, he is what he is the more I watch him the more I think he’s an athlete not a footballer. There will be no noticeable improvement or jump in his performances hes had loads of opportunities this season and not looked like he’s capable of taking them.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on May 9, 2024 13:20:25 GMT
I get the frustrations with nobs on but is anyone going to buy any of our strikers? At least three probably 4 under contract. Would probably cost more in this years accounts to buy them off. And how much money will there be to buy replacements?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 13:34:31 GMT
The time for a loan has passed that should have been season passed with him coming back for the up and coming season ready to go but we messed it up. It’s time to bite the bullet as a club we’ve held on to players to long in the past hoping they will come good wasting money we dont have which could have been used elsewhere. Kelman joined at same age as Armstrong three seasons ago and for all the hope has delivered nothing. Between the two we’ve wasted six years worth of salary on two strikers who don’t know where the goal is at what point do we as fans and clubs say thanks guys we need try something else (applies dykes too) I personally think we’ve seen all the development you’re going to get from him, he is what he is the more I watch him the more I think he’s an athlete not a footballer. There will be no noticeable improvement or jump in his performances hes had loads of opportunities this season and not looked like he’s capable of taking them. One of the reasons why I'm giving up (well, gave up) is that we will never be able to hold on to half decent youngsters anymore. If he was as good as some believe or expect to be he wouldn't at QPR still. That's the damning reality of where we and football are He's still with us because no one with cash wants him. |
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Post by Rexpat on Jun 3, 2024 12:48:16 GMT
What is Muscle's contract status?
I'm sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere.
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Post by Rexpat on Jun 3, 2024 12:49:52 GMT
Perhaps that should be "Muscles'" to be more precise.
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