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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 5, 2022 18:42:15 GMT
I’ve gone from thinking we’ve hit our blip to now thinking we’ve actually blown our load good and proper.
What happened?
My own thoughts that don’t mean anything.
Number 1 massive error not getting a striker in to back up the toothless 3 we have. This has been so obvious it’s embarrassing.
Jeff Hendrick. I like his honesty and effort but he’s brought nothing to the team our own players weren’t bringing already. What’s he done to improve us? I’d rather rotate Dozzell, Ball, Thomas personally. Wasn’t an area we needed changing.
Playing players out of position. Frustrating.
In game substitutions. Again today didn’t change it until we were losing. As usual closing the door after the horse had bolted.
Why not take control of the game and change it. Always reactionary.
Anything else?
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 5, 2022 18:55:29 GMT
IMO truth is we were in total control until they equalised. Why make any change in that situation?
Their two goals came so quickly you just don't have chance to make changes.
And honestly, who from the bench could make any change when we were trailing? There was no-one there.
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 5, 2022 19:01:44 GMT
I don’t agree sorry mate.
We looked flat, slow and out of ideas.
A goal was coming, and it did.
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Post by acricketer on Mar 5, 2022 19:02:34 GMT
Chair
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Post by Shania on Mar 5, 2022 19:03:51 GMT
Imo they ran the second half from the start.
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Post by Hitman34 on Mar 5, 2022 19:16:57 GMT
I’ve gone from thinking we’ve hit our blip to now thinking we’ve actually blown our load good and proper. What happened? My own thoughts that don’t mean anything. Number 1 massive error not getting a striker in to back up the toothless 3 we have. This has been so obvious it’s embarrassing. Jeff Hendrick. I like his honesty and effort but he’s brought nothing to the team our own players weren’t bringing already. What’s he done to improve us? I’d rather rotate Dozzell, Ball, Thomas personally. Wasn’t an area we needed changing. Playing players out of position. Frustrating. In game substitutions. Again today didn’t change it until we were losing. As usual closing the door after the horse had bolted. Why not take control of the game and change it. Always reactionary. Anything else? All this with bells on. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Mar 5, 2022 19:17:07 GMT
Seny Dieng out for 6 weeks too by all accounts.
It’s all come crashing down at the wrong time.
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Post by hal9thou on Mar 5, 2022 19:21:35 GMT
The board's decision (or indecision) during the last window will turn out to be an expensive one.
I personally think there are serious issues around MW's management skills. He has form for getting a side into contention and then blowing it.
Chuck Les into that mix and it was always going to go wrong.
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Post by 2Loftus on Mar 5, 2022 19:36:15 GMT
Heads up chaps.
In August I doubt any of us thought we'd be sitting in 5th place with 11 games to go.
We've over-achieved most of the season and done better than we had a right to.
Unfashionable to say so, but I think we're missing Dykes ruffling defenders and his shear work rate.
We seemed settled with players away at AFCON, but out of sorts since their (particularly Chair's) return.
Good to see Warbs upset/angry - hopefully the players will take that on board.
In a way, we kind of got lucky, with so many teams around us dropping points as well, so not too much damage.
Luton away a week on Sunday looks a 6-pointer...
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 19:59:46 GMT
We've over-achieved most of the season and done better than we had a right to. Disagree, and I think that's another myth that's been doing the rounds. We were absolutely there on merit until we imploded in Feb. |
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Post by sparks on Mar 5, 2022 20:01:55 GMT
I personally don’t feel having 9 players with Premiership experience is a case of over achieving in a very poor league, it’s more the case the managers tactical ability has been exposed.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 20:04:22 GMT
the managers tactical ability has been exposed. Aint that the truth. And I'm afraid it's the answer to your OP, Jimmy. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 5, 2022 20:04:44 GMT
Heads up chaps. In August I doubt any of us thought we'd be sitting in 5th place with 11 games to go. We've over-achieved most of the season and done better than we had a right to. Unfashionable to say so, but I think we're missing Dykes ruffling defenders and his shear work rate. We seemed settled with players away at AFCON, but out of sorts since their (particularly Chair's) return. Good to see Warbs upset/angry - hopefully the players will take that on board. In a way, we kind of got lucky, with so many teams around us dropping points as well, so not too much damage. Luton away a week on Sunday looks a 6-pointer... Mate, over achieving is great, what they should be aiming to do. It’s not an excuse for letting it slide. As for other teams dropping points we are dropping points to basement clubs and still have to play teams around us - great if we beat them but we’re way off form compared to a couple of months ago. Dykes doesn’t ruffle defenders. One of the criticisms aimed at him is that he contributes nothing if he doesn’t score. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 5, 2022 20:06:35 GMT
We've over-achieved most of the season Disagree, and I think that's another myth that's been doing the rounds. We were absolutely there on merit until we imploded in Feb. I think we have played well only a handful of games whole season and been very very lucky to win so many games against the run of play and without actually earning those wins. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 20:11:40 GMT
been very very lucky to win so many games I couldn't disagree more. Every one of those victories has been fully deserved. With respect, that is such an easy argument to make because there have been plenty of games where we've come away with nothing yet deserved something. No, we were absolutely there on merit until the manager ballsed things up IMO. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 5, 2022 20:15:12 GMT
I remember things totally different. Don't you remember how poorly we have started and played every single game this year and scored the winning goal from our only chance?
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 20:26:23 GMT
I remember things totally different. Don't you remember how poorly we have started and played every single game this year and scored the winning goal from our only chance? To a certain degree, yes. However don't you also remember earlier in the season when we had that incredible team spirit? When the team never knew they were beaten, which is what drove us on to grab those draws and wins from the clutches of defeat? We had an incredible self-belief and confidence that looks completely shot now. There were other games where we played really well too. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 5, 2022 20:28:18 GMT
We shot our load when we didn’t gamble I jam window
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 5, 2022 20:37:51 GMT
I remember things totally different. Don't you remember how poorly we have started and played every single game this year and scored the winning goal from our only chance? To a certain degree, yes. However don't you also remember earlier in the season when we had that incredible team spirit? When the team never knew they were beaten, which is what drove us on to grab those draws and wins from the clutches of defeat? We had an incredible self-belief and confidence that looks completely shot now. There were other games where we played really well too. There were games when we started playing well last 10 minutes or so and scored the winning goal. That was because of strong team spirit. Might have played poorly 80 first minutes though. Now we lack that killing instinct. |
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Post by Timmy Doc on Mar 5, 2022 20:39:46 GMT
Also good team spirit comes from wins. If you lose it can disappear quickly.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 20:47:56 GMT
There were games when we started playing well last 10 minutes or so and scored the winning goal. That was because of strong team spirit. Might have played poorly 80 first minutes though. Now we lack that killing instinct. Also good team spirit comes from wins. If you lose it can disappear quickly. I agree we didn't always play well for the whole games, but disagree we were lucky or over-achieved. |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 5, 2022 20:49:48 GMT
I repeat, we didn’t back our position.
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Post by Stanley75 on Mar 5, 2022 20:51:30 GMT
I repeat, we didn’t back our position. I agreed with you the first time 😉 |
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Mar 5, 2022 21:01:31 GMT
SozI’m bit sloshed
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Post by Bill on Mar 5, 2022 22:27:58 GMT
The Manager,stubborn and cautious
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Post by acricketer on Mar 5, 2022 22:47:01 GMT
The Manager,stubborn and cautious Still think we were punching above our weight and the manager deserves credit for that. |
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Post by Bill on Mar 6, 2022 0:00:13 GMT
The Manager,stubborn and cautious Still think we were punching above our weight and the manager deserves credit for that. 1 point out of 15 not for me |
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Post by West Acton on Mar 6, 2022 8:32:45 GMT
Good thread this
The change in Feb is hard to ignore. The change was the reintroduction of Chair but is it fair to blame one player? We were doing ok in January not smashing teams but we were efficient, effective and controlling games.
I like the manager but I do think it’s odd how he went into tinker mode in Feb for no other reason then to fit Chair back in the side. We were going along nicely so leave it alone, if we had then hit this run of results then you throw chair back in. But to play Willock at WB and upfront more or less to accommodate chair was odd
I also think Willock is playing with injury hence why he’s been getting pulled early 2nd half’s as there is no other reason for it. Last few weeks when he’s running he’s carrying pretty noticeable limp so I think they are patching him up and getting 60mins out of him and it coincides with him not doing what he was.
The errors are starting to re-emerge costing us which we had cut out. Look at recent goals which have all been avoidable if players are on it Dickie yesterday, Marshall last week Dunne v Blackpool then Sanderson sending off. It feels little bit like self harm
We were performing at a certain level up until Jan which got us where we were at but since then we dropped a level same time others have gone up. It’s the reverse of last year where we went up a gear from Jan
I don’t think there is one thing, I think it’s a few things unfortunately all happening same time. Just need hang in there now and fight and hopefully it keeps us amongst it as the form will turn but where will be sat when it does
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 6, 2022 8:49:05 GMT
Good points but manager and his staff should be addressing problems that arise not just pressing repeat.
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Post by alanwycombe on Mar 6, 2022 8:51:49 GMT
Would be good if a post match love-in interview included a question about Willock’s fitness as you may have hit nail on head there.
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