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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 13:17:49 GMT
Are you saying it’s another Warburton type shit or bust season then 🤣 At this stage, I'd say it's more of a 'wait and see / bide our time' scenario Only my take obviously. None of us are in the boardroom. And all of that of course would go out of the window if a ridiculously good offer came in for Willock.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 9, 2022 13:49:23 GMT
Not so confident about that. Willock is huge to us but Brentford had other good players bedded in so a newcomer could settle. Rather sell Chair, we could cope with that. With that logic you might as well say "I would prefer to sell Kakay". Of course Willock would be a bigger loss to the team. But as Sparks suggested, if you look at Brentford they sold their best player several times. Of course its gutting as a fan. But even Chair is unlikely to raise the funds we need. Its only the premier league sides and maybe a few parachute clubs than can pay the big bucks. If Chair is as bad as a lot of fans are saying on here (judging by a recent thread, most fans don't even want him in our team), why is a team that is much better than us going to buy him? The economics are simple. If we are going to get self sufficient and still leave us with funds to invest in the squad then we need to make an Eze level sale every year. Willock is the only player in our squad who comes close at the moment. Well no, because Kakay wouldn’t get us so much money. Chair was talked up massively by TV etc. and we have lots of midfield options. If no one wants to buy him that’s another matter. As for Brentford selling their best player they had other good players they didn’t sell so Toney fitted in easily for Watkins. We haven’t got that luxury.
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 14:02:18 GMT
Come on Alan shoot my theory down in flames, Stan has just put a few pin holes in it so far 😁
Some of the reasons for suggesting this is DOF recent interview on a recent podcast, he appeared genuinely gobsmacked that we’ve not received any transfer bids.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 9, 2022 15:11:50 GMT
With that logic you might as well say "I would prefer to sell Kakay". Of course Willock would be a bigger loss to the team. But as Sparks suggested, if you look at Brentford they sold their best player several times. Of course its gutting as a fan. But even Chair is unlikely to raise the funds we need. Its only the premier league sides and maybe a few parachute clubs than can pay the big bucks. If Chair is as bad as a lot of fans are saying on here (judging by a recent thread, most fans don't even want him in our team), why is a team that is much better than us going to buy him? The economics are simple. If we are going to get self sufficient and still leave us with funds to invest in the squad then we need to make an Eze level sale every year. Willock is the only player in our squad who comes close at the moment. Well no, because Kakay wouldn’t get us so much money. Chair was talked up massively by TV etc. and we have lots of midfield options. If no one wants to buy him that’s another matter. As for Brentford selling their best player they had other good players they didn’t sell so Toney fitted in easily for Watkins. We haven’t got that luxury. plus when brentford did sell their best players they did so for obscene amounts of money and already had someone to replace them or lined up at the very least. us 'doing a brentford' would be like if we sold willock for 20m+ but had already signed scott twine for example.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 16:50:04 GMT
Come on Alan shoot my theory down in flames, Stan has just put a few pin holes in it so far 😁 Some of the reasons for suggesting this is DOF recent interview on a recent podcast, he appeared genuinely gobsmacked that we’ve not received any transfer bids.If you're referring to Chair then I'm in full agreement with you Sparks.
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Post by Timmy Doc on Aug 9, 2022 17:05:47 GMT
We all saw what happened when Willock got injured last January/February. No other players have had such an influence since Taarabt.
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 17:22:20 GMT
Come on Alan shoot my theory down in flames, Stan has just put a few pin holes in it so far 😁 Some of the reasons for suggesting this is DOF recent interview on a recent podcast, he appeared genuinely gobsmacked that we’ve not received any transfer bids.If you're referring to Chair then I'm in full agreement with you Sparks. But isn’t Willock dwindling contract more important than Chair or any other player with reference to contract length left and transfer fee to be expected Stan? It must be every footballers dream to have a successful playing period then having run down their contract and receive a huge signing on fee and a substantial salary. For me I would find it very difficult to criticise the player for doing what’s best for him as I would follow the same path, but I would find it very difficult NOT to lambast the clubs owners for allowing things to progress that far. We can’t expect to follow Brentford’s successful model when it comes to selling any of our better players irrespective of having a suitable player already in the building imo. I highly doubt that Brentford had in house replacements before a regular stream of transfer income was arriving.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 9, 2022 17:32:04 GMT
Come on Alan shoot my theory down in flames, Stan has just put a few pin holes in it so far 😁 Some of the reasons for suggesting this is DOF recent interview on a recent podcast, he appeared genuinely gobsmacked that we’ve not received any transfer bids. that tells you something, been said before we overrate our players. Surprised no interest in Willock tho.
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Post by sparks on Aug 9, 2022 17:35:50 GMT
Come on Alan shoot my theory down in flames, Stan has just put a few pin holes in it so far 😁 Some of the reasons for suggesting this is DOF recent interview on a recent podcast, he appeared genuinely gobsmacked that we’ve not received any transfer bids. that tells you something, been said before we overrate our players. Surprised no interest in Willock tho. I would say more likely the club is skint with regards FFP Alan.
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Post by Stanley75 on Aug 9, 2022 18:25:14 GMT
But isn’t Willock dwindling contract more important than Chair or any other player with reference to contract length left and transfer fee to be expected Stan? Yes it is. Again, no disagreement. And we have no evidence, as of yet, that the board aren't fully aware of that and doing all in their power to address it.
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Post by hubble on Aug 10, 2022 19:41:50 GMT
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Post by Tarbie on Aug 10, 2022 20:18:36 GMT
I think that's bad journalism Hubs. Think that guy is going to Queens Park in Scotland.
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Post by Shania on Aug 10, 2022 20:47:52 GMT
It`s Queens Park in Scotland.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 10, 2022 22:21:35 GMT
Very unlikely Willock will sign a new contract but suspect it is injury concerns stopping anyone bidding.
The bottom line is no one is bidding for Chair, Willock or anyone else and while that remains the case we have a virtual transfer embargo on us as we can’t spend any money
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Post by acricketer on Aug 10, 2022 22:42:02 GMT
Are clubs waiting to see what chaff is left from premier squads before taking a punt on EFL mediocrity?
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Post by Corbray on Aug 11, 2022 8:35:03 GMT
set to bring in dujon sterling on loan with an option to buy, not that that is any secret.
i quite like the whole 'try before you buy' mentality that we have atm. AC milan have pulled off some spectacular signings in recent years operating with the same transfer policy.
hopefully we can bring in a striker and i do suspect we will before the window closes. would very much like us to bring in another LB too just as cover, even bringing lee wallace back in would be smart business as niko is a hopeless player.
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Post by sparks on Aug 11, 2022 8:48:30 GMT
For some reason I don’t believe the rumour put out by WLS that Sterling is the RB coming in.I’ve noticed Marlon Fossey has been part of Fulham’s pre season squad so probably not him.
Calvin Ramsey or KKH would be my choice but it’s pure guesswork.
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Post by hubble on Aug 11, 2022 9:13:30 GMT
When does the transfer window actually close? Complete theory, but maybe MB wants Willock out of the public glare until it closes? Personally I think it's nuts to start a season this much earlier, but keep the transfer window open until it would normally shut.
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Post by alanwycombe on Aug 11, 2022 14:08:56 GMT
He was injured for Bournemouth, so he'll fit in well. I don't know much about Laird, I heard he was going to PNE but also heard he is coming to us. Sterling sounded good, he has a lot of pace which is something we lack. Man Utd fans seem upset that he's leaving them, but then they thought that about Sean Goss and where is he now? Open mind though, at least Laird has already done well at this level. Sean Goss - another great decision
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on Aug 11, 2022 14:53:40 GMT
He was injured for Bournemouth, so he'll fit in well. I don't know much about Laird, I heard he was going to PNE but also heard he is coming to us. Sterling sounded good, he has a lot of pace which is something we lack. Man Utd fans seem upset that he's leaving them, but then they thought that about Sean Goss and where is he now? Open mind though, at least Laird has already done well at this level. When will Sean, will Sean be famous? I can't answer that.
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Post by itsonlyagame on Aug 11, 2022 15:38:25 GMT
He was injured for Bournemouth, so he'll fit in well. I don't know much about Laird, I heard he was going to PNE but also heard he is coming to us. Sterling sounded good, he has a lot of pace which is something we lack. Man Utd fans seem upset that he's leaving them, but then they thought that about Sean Goss and where is he now? Open mind though, at least Laird has already done well at this level. When will Sean, will Sean be famous? I can't answer that. Never, if the boy gets dropped. See what I did there😁
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Post by sparks on Aug 12, 2022 8:15:34 GMT
Fulham have got quite a recent history for grabbing our best players.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Aug 12, 2022 8:28:14 GMT
Cost em 10 million for shodipo
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Aug 12, 2022 9:17:43 GMT
Cost em 10 million for shodipo
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Post by spongeparr on Aug 12, 2022 9:28:02 GMT
Fulham have got quite a recent history for grabbing our best players. Who have they taken? Other than Cook back in the day.
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Post by sparks on Aug 12, 2022 9:49:52 GMT
Fulham have got quite a recent history for grabbing our best players. Who have they taken? Other than Cook back in the day. I’m probably over egging the word ‘quite’ but Taarabt the other one.
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Post by Corbray on Aug 13, 2022 23:51:11 GMT
Laird confirmed. Kakay has played well and looks like a solid backup. kakay can do a job at LB too, he played there a few times last season irc. if paal can't play against blackburn then kakay should start against them at LB. he's not put a foot wrong really, but he hasn't put a foot right either.
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Post by lymehoop on Aug 14, 2022 8:59:59 GMT
great comeback and great news re players available for Wednesday. Only downside is the rail dispute which will prevent me coming Saturday
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Post by sparks on Aug 23, 2022 10:01:11 GMT
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Post by Corbray on Aug 23, 2022 10:18:41 GMT
i could still see us bringing in archer on loan even though villa have said they want to keep him around. they only have watkins and ings as their striking options and maybe bailey in a pinch. bit of a shame that their move for sarr fell through as that would have greenlit a move for archer to leave.
maybe we can convince them to do a swap for dykes. dykes is the greatest australian born scottish striker in the world afterall.
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