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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:26:19 GMT
He won the league at Rangers did he not
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Post by BrightonR on May 6, 2019 21:36:26 GMT
He won the league at Rangers did he not Chris Ramsey won a league out in the States. 😂I guess only time will tell, but it could have been a hell of a lot worse. 👍
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Post by jeand on May 6, 2019 21:39:02 GMT
Good old tactics Tim. Lol. I would be seriously pleased if Warburton is coming.😀
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:40:12 GMT
Have we ever had a manager that has won a proper league though hits ?
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:40:35 GMT
Sorry meant Brights
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 6, 2019 21:41:21 GMT
Have we ever had a manager that has won a proper league though hits ? I mean, it's a fair question Gen 😂
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 21:41:26 GMT
General. He won the scottish championship not the premier league with a playing budget of 5 or 6 times larger than anyone else.
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:41:50 GMT
This is a Qpr first is it not a league winner before they arrive
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:42:57 GMT
I know but he still won it didn't he
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 21:43:02 GMT
Terry Venables won the Spanish league after leaving us for Barca.
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:48:54 GMT
Will be the toast for years to come lol
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Post by The General on May 6, 2019 21:49:49 GMT
Yes Venners did but he wasn't a champion before he arrived 73 was he mate
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 22:17:17 GMT
Has Warnock ever won a league?
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Post by Ginger Ninja on May 6, 2019 22:18:33 GMT
Has Warnock ever won a league? nPower Championship
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 22:34:02 GMT
Sorry Ginge before he came to us?
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Post by Corbray on May 7, 2019 5:07:33 GMT
macca won the dutch league and league cup
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Post by Timmy Doc on May 7, 2019 6:09:36 GMT
Good news, I think.....hopefully. Let's try with him.
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Post by West Acton on May 7, 2019 6:28:33 GMT
We just need bit of calm and someone stable and reliable next few seasons so we can settle team/squad next two three seasons given spending restrictions.
I’m no expecting promotion or play offs just middle table finish and little bit of progress each season will do me
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Post by dunraven on May 7, 2019 7:18:22 GMT
macca won the dutch league and league cup Good shout
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Post by Brian Wilson on May 7, 2019 8:18:20 GMT
Not overly excited but will back him. Think we could have waited another month or so and maybe looked for a foreign coach. Most of us on here could manage Rangers to the scot championship title and the stats at Forest don't look good.
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Post by Stanley75 on May 7, 2019 8:23:33 GMT
Think we could have waited another month or so and maybe looked for a foreign coach. With you on that Brian. Will obviously back him though.
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Post by Tarbie on May 7, 2019 8:25:08 GMT
He won the league at Rangers did he not He actually won the double mate. The Scottish Championship and the League Challenge Cup (only open to teams outside of the top flight). But he won both these competitions with the 2nd highest budget in the country behind Celtic. It's no exaggeration to say that pretty much any Championship standard manager could have done the same thing. Warburton never endeared himself to the Rangers fans (but he wouldn't be the first Englishman to go up there and not be afforded much patience). More telling is what the Forest fans think of him, and the thing I hear time and time again is that he had no Plan B, and didn't get the best out of the players he had. To be fair though, he really wasn't given that much time and had to work with a squad of players that were on the most part signed by previous managers. I'm hoping it'll be a different story here. He has inherited a decent group of young players, and he has 5 or 6 key positions in the first team to fill. As such, he should be able to put together a team that is to his liking from day one.
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Post by hubble on May 7, 2019 8:42:47 GMT
I just don't get the doom and gloom (already!) about Warburton. I also don't get the obsession with a foreign manager. What on earth makes a foreign manager any better? Because they're foreign?? Of all the foreign managers who have managed over here, how many have actually been that successful? On a budget like ours?
I think Warburton is the perfect choice. His template for success at Brentford is exactly the kind of approach we want here. We have two more years of FFP enforced austerity to endure and we need someone with the nous to rebuild the squad based pretty much on young and lower-league acquired players. This is a serious task and Warburton is a very smart guy. With Eustace as his second, we have an intelligent home-grown team with excellent knowledge of the league. For me, this is the first proper managerial appointment the board have made since Neil Warnock.
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Post by hal9thou on May 7, 2019 8:49:24 GMT
would rather have ainsworth here On what basis? How does that even work? For once, especially given the fact that JE is staying, it looks as though sense has prevailed. Also MW wont take shit from Les.
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Post by Brian Wilson on May 7, 2019 8:56:19 GMT
I just don't get the doom and gloom (already!) about Warburton. I also don't get the obsession with a foreign manager. What on earth makes a foreign manager any better? Because they're foreign?? Of all the foreign managers who have managed over here, how many have actually been that successful? On a budget like ours? I think Warburton is the perfect choice. His template for success at Brentford is exactly the kind of approach we want here. We have two more years of FFP enforced austerity to endure and we need someone with the nous to rebuild the squad based pretty much on young and lower-league acquired players. This is a serious task and Warburton is a very smart guy. With Eustace as his second, we have an intelligent home-grown team with excellent knowledge of the league. For me, this is the first proper managerial appointment the board have made since Neil Warnock. Think you are deliberately misunderstanding the point about foreign coaches that is being made. It's about broadening the search and not taking another manager off the merry go round. As I said, i will back Warburton but there is a big wide world of managers out there and sometimes taking a chance on someone thats not a safe bet can pay dividends.
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Post by hal9thou on May 7, 2019 9:28:40 GMT
I just don't get the doom and gloom (already!) about Warburton. I also don't get the obsession with a foreign manager. What on earth makes a foreign manager any better? Because they're foreign?? Of all the foreign managers who have managed over here, how many have actually been that successful? On a budget like ours? I think Warburton is the perfect choice. His template for success at Brentford is exactly the kind of approach we want here. We have two more years of FFP enforced austerity to endure and we need someone with the nous to rebuild the squad based pretty much on young and lower-league acquired players. This is a serious task and Warburton is a very smart guy. With Eustace as his second, we have an intelligent home-grown team with excellent knowledge of the league. For me, this is the first proper managerial appointment the board have made since Neil Warnock. Think you are deliberately misunderstanding the point about foreign coaches that is being made. It's about broadening the search and not taking another manager off the merry go round. As I said, i will back Warburton but there is a big wide world of managers out there and sometimes taking a chance on someone thats not a safe bet can pay dividends. I can't even remember how many good foreign coaches have been realistically available at the many different times we've been looking for managers, including as an EPL side, I highlighted most of em on WATRB and many - like Da Silva - have gone on to have decent careers in this country. However, it was became clear to me that once Les was in situ nothing like that was going to happen. We're a championship club now under restrictive conditions and Warburton fits the bill as well as anyone, here or abroad. He's keen on development, his stats at this level are good, and he wont take shit from Les. Tbh I'm really surprised he came at all. Another plus is that Eustace stays and I've been impressed by the way he's handled himself in difficult circs. Furthermore, we can't be certain that this time we didn't look at foreign managers (ie Almeda). I can see both sides of this, believe, but I reckon we've actually made a decent call.
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Post by Corbray on May 7, 2019 9:31:48 GMT
would rather have ainsworth here On what basis? How does that even work? For once, especially given the fact that JE is staying, it looks as though sense has prevailed. Also MW wont take shit from Les. our last 2 (now 3) managers have been out of work has-beens. warburton did great stuff at brentford but they're a very well run and smart club anyway that he knew a great deal about already as he was their sporting director or something before he became their manager. he was a lot more hungry and eager for the job back then. he didn't light the world on fire at his last 2 jobs and had rather mixed reviews from the fans. he did pretty badly during his last season at nottingham forest despite them being a pretty good team overall. it feels like we're just repeatimg our past mistakes, i don't think we're gunna have a good season next year regardless of who we bring in but i certainly don't think warburton is the man to take us through our turmoils and take us forward although i obviously hope that i am catastrophically wrong lol. we need someone whos hungry, ready to step up and driven to succeed and turn us around.
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Post by Shania on May 7, 2019 9:43:55 GMT
Our budget would be a problem for a foreign manager. That is why Warburton and his knowledge when it comes to local players in and outside the London area would be perfect for us at this stage, when we actually have been quite close to being relegated. And to my knowledge, he will also bring a very respected Arsenal coach with him. That seems excting to me. And also, the fact that JE will be his assistant is another plus. Eustace should now know the players and the club good enough to actually have a say on how the club has to be run if want to move forward, I feel.
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Post by croydoncaptainjack on May 7, 2019 9:45:01 GMT
I just don't get the doom and gloom (already!) about Warburton. I also don't get the obsession with a foreign manager. What on earth makes a foreign manager any better? Because they're foreign?? Of all the foreign managers who have managed over here, how many have actually been that successful? On a budget like ours? I think Warburton is the perfect choice. His template for success at Brentford is exactly the kind of approach we want here. We have two more years of FFP enforced austerity to endure and we need someone with the nous to rebuild the squad based pretty much on young and lower-league acquired players. This is a serious task and Warburton is a very smart guy. With Eustace as his second, we have an intelligent home-grown team with excellent knowledge of the league. For me, this is the first proper managerial appointment the board have made since Neil Warnock. I agree with you Hud. Just a quick point though, my understanding is that the FFP thing will be ongoing now not just for the two years. We will always have to lose less than £39m over a three year rolling time frame (excluding adjustments)
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Post by hertshoops on May 7, 2019 10:08:02 GMT
"we need someone whos hungry, ready to step up and driven to succeed and turn us around"
Thats the trouble with him having been out of work, we don't know his motivation for applying ?
Either he's keen to get stuck in here because we're a challenge and a chance to 'prove' himself again Or we're nice and local to his family base and have dipshit owners that will be mesmerised by him and splash the cash
Personaly hope it's the former
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