systemsguy
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Post by systemsguy on Sept 27, 2023 15:57:11 GMT
Why? without knowing the ins and outs of financial fair play.... the money the player makes over 4 years may be better than a 2 year deal elsewhere... I'm led to believe Chelsea are giving 8 year contracts to stay within the rules! While applauding the club on our signing (other clubs were quite keen for his signature and plenty of fans put the mockers on it when he wasn't announced straight away) let's hold judgement until he's played perhaps 10 games, Ethan (bit of tightness) Laird was lauded by a lot of fans on here and elsewhere then worrying he would be recalled during the January window after a few good performances... So Chelsea have to defray about 1 billion quid hence the longer contracts. The risk is that some of their acquisitions become millstones who can't be shifted. For a small club like ours they become a serious risk. I was reading somewhere claims we're paying Begovic £32K a week... I doubt that as much as I doubt Reggie's four year contract will bankrupt us... We know the owners are keeping us afloat and our neighbours are a million miles away from us now financially.... |
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Post by hal9thou on Sept 27, 2023 16:25:32 GMT
So Chelsea have to defray about 1 billion quid hence the longer contracts. The risk is that some of their acquisitions become millstones who can't be shifted. For a small club like ours they become a serious risk. I was reading somewhere claims we're paying Begovic £32K a week... I doubt that as much as I doubt Reggie's four year contract will bankrupt us...We know the owners are keeping us afloat and our neighbours are a million miles away from us now financially.... It wont. But we have a small playing staff and can't afford any more scenarios paying someone for being sat at home (SWP being the finest example). To my mind that risk increases with longer contracts. The risk of an injury which devalues the asset is also obviously greater. There could be a rolling element to the contract depending on T&Cs. |
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Sept 27, 2023 16:44:27 GMT
What do we think is our best team now assuming everyone on form/ fit (big "if" obvs): Bergovic Dunne Cook JSC Cannon Paal Field Colebrook Smyth Chair Dykes For me its probably this (Smyth would drop out for Willock if the latter really re-discovered his form). Only issue for me is that as I have long argued Chair is our best player (for all his frustrations) and think he is much better in a 10 role than out wide. I think Armstrong could be good as a kind of inside left, but I don't see how you get him in a full strength team. Anyway, more options than a few weeks ago. I definitely would not drop Fox. He's been excellent, on the whole, alongside Cook and they've formed a good partnership. Better player than Dunne IMO and more experienced. I'd say pretty 50/50 between those two. Dunne always has an error in him but is a heart and soul player so very "Ainsworth". Issue for me with playing Fox and JSC is they both prefer the left side of defence and you probably want Cook as the lynchpin in the centre. Plus Dunne being younger is someone we could potentially develop and sell on which we desperately need to do more of. But nice problem to have with Kakay decent cover as a centre back in a three. Compare that to our options against Watford opening game! |
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Post by hubble on Sept 27, 2023 16:58:25 GMT
What do we think is our best team now assuming everyone on form/ fit (big "if" obvs): Bergovic Dunne Cook JSC Cannon Paal Field Colebrook Smyth Chair Dykes For me its probably this (Smyth would drop out for Willock if the latter really re-discovered his form). Only issue for me is that as I have long argued Chair is our best player (for all his frustrations) and think he is much better in a 10 role than out wide. I think Armstrong could be good as a kind of inside left, but I don't see how you get him in a full strength team. Anyway, more options than a few weeks ago. I definitely would not drop Fox. He's been excellent, on the whole, alongside Cook and they've formed a good partnership. Better player than Dunne IMO and more experienced. Strange you say this Stan, I think Fox has been poor, probably our worst defender v Birmingham.
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Post by Stanley75 on Sept 27, 2023 17:34:04 GMT
I definitely would not drop Fox. He's been excellent, on the whole, alongside Cook and they've formed a good partnership. Better player than Dunne IMO and more experienced. Strange you say this Stan, I think Fox has been poor, probably our worst defender v Birmingham.
Different lenses, as you say Hubs. |
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Post by Corbray on Sept 27, 2023 17:42:59 GMT
So Chelsea have to defray about 1 billion quid hence the longer contracts. The risk is that some of their acquisitions become millstones who can't be shifted. For a small club like ours they become a serious risk. I was reading somewhere claims we're paying Begovic £32K a week... I doubt that as much as I doubt Reggie's four year contract will bankrupt us... We know the owners are keeping us afloat and our neighbours are a million miles away from us now financially.... laughable that begovic is on 32k a week tbh. i'd be very surprised if its even a third of that. he wanted to move back down south as he has a GK academy down here and likely chose to come to us so he could get some game time at the end of his career imo. |
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systemsguy
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Post by systemsguy on Sept 27, 2023 18:14:56 GMT
I was reading somewhere claims we're paying Begovic £32K a week... I doubt that as much as I doubt Reggie's four year contract will bankrupt us...We know the owners are keeping us afloat and our neighbours are a million miles away from us now financially.... It wont. But we have a small playing staff and can't afford any more scenarios paying someone for being sat at home (SWP being the finest example). To my mind that risk increases with longer contracts. The risk of an injury which devalues the asset is also obviously greater. There could be a rolling element to the contract depending on T&Cs. What we paid SWP was obscene.... blame Phil Beard for that nonsense, SWP's old man Ian told him to take the deal and when out of favour with whoever was manager at the club he just turned up for training everyday required and collected his paycheque even turning down a loan deal to Charlton at one point.... Barton was on similar but at least he put a shift in.... Doubt Reggie will be anywhere near his weekly salary over a couple of months worth of paychecks.... in other news Chris Martin has signed for Bristol Rovers till January... Should we have invested some of that money on Chris instead? Hell we may even get a sell on fee with Cannon.... |
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Post by Knocker on Oct 4, 2023 21:31:54 GMT
Sounds like a problem with work permit as surely he would have got a few minutes in the development game. Ainsworth mentioned paper work and American citizen.
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Post by acricketer on Oct 7, 2023 21:04:24 GMT
On the bench today. Keeping his powder dry.
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Post by hubble on Oct 8, 2023 10:34:22 GMT
He must be glad he signed with us.
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Post by Rangers77 on Oct 8, 2023 10:46:16 GMT
He must be glad he signed with us. No one wanted him since July. Played for a Portuguese team I'd never heard of. Gets to hang out in London getting paid for four years. I'm sure he's fine. |
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Post by hubble on Oct 8, 2023 11:06:40 GMT
He must be glad he signed with us. No one wanted him since July. Played for a Portuguese team I'd never heard of. Gets to hang out in London getting paid for four years. I'm sure he's fine.
Yes, if you look at it like that, that's true. But if you're a footballer with any pride....
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Post by Timmy Doc on Oct 28, 2023 16:49:06 GMT
Nothing spectacular but he's been quite steady, hasn't he?
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Post by MattyRangers on Oct 28, 2023 16:49:58 GMT
Nothing spectacular but he's been quite steady, hasn't he? Yea been ok. Considering he’s settling into a car crash of a team I’d say he’s doing well. I imagine him in a stable side would be a decent player. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Oct 28, 2023 16:50:24 GMT
Done ok in a shit side.
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Post by West Acton on Oct 28, 2023 16:50:59 GMT
Nothing spectacular but he's been quite steady, hasn't he? agree like a regular 7 out of ten. If you had three or four other players doing that week in week out you would be doing ok. |
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Post by Shania on Nov 12, 2023 9:00:17 GMT
He was not playing yesterday because he took a knock in training, It`s a minor knee injury according to MC.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 10, 2023 9:09:31 GMT
What are people’s thoughts now he’s had a few games?
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Post by Hitman34 on Dec 10, 2023 9:16:52 GMT
What are people’s thoughts now he’s had a few games? Solid, reliable, easy 7 rating each game he plays, does not make any rash challenges. I like him. Good solid right back. |
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Post by Corbray on Dec 10, 2023 9:28:02 GMT
i like him. a game changer when he came on against stoke.
he's growing into the side game by game, still think he's a tad nervous when up against someone tricky but is dynamic going forward and a very good addition to the side.
certainly an upgrade on kakay but i like how they're different kinds of RBs. kakay is a great player to bring on for cannon for the last 20 minutes of a game.
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Post by sparks on Dec 10, 2023 9:45:56 GMT
Philogene was tying him in knots before he went off, he doesn’t look a stand out player for me other than he looks odd in that he’s got a very short neck like Impey had.
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Post by Greg1882 on Dec 10, 2023 9:53:23 GMT
Really like him. Think most players at this level will struggle with philogene he’s outstanding. Reggie won’t come up against many better and he’s adjusting really well. Changed the game against Stoke and really good going forward. An ungrade on kakay for certain and I’d even say he’s an upgrade on laird. A solid 7 most weeks and won’t be long before he gets a goal too
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Post by West Acton on Dec 10, 2023 10:03:10 GMT
Philogene was tying him in knots before he went off, he doesn’t look a stand out player for me other than he looks odd in that he’s got a very short neck like Impey had. you thought what I did. I’m not convinced he’s as good as being made out but still early days. Turns slowly that’s what jumps out at me so far |
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Post by sparks on Dec 10, 2023 10:25:04 GMT
Philogene was tying him in knots before he went off, he doesn’t look a stand out player for me other than he looks odd in that he’s got a very short neck like Impey had. you thought what I did. I’m not convinced he’s as good as being made out but still early days. Turns slowly that’s what jumps out at me so far He played a fabulous cross field pass in Rotherham game and decent cross that Donkey managed to knock out of play yesterday but other than that he’s just looked average right now. For his last club he played predominately as a CB so perhaps he’s still adjusting.. |
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 17, 2023 8:14:52 GMT
Can't say I'm fully sold on this guy.
First impressions were good but probably more to do with anything half decent would be better than what Kaykay was serving up but, after a number of performances now, It's clear to see why he was without a club.
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Post by West Acton on Dec 17, 2023 8:18:59 GMT
Agree Jimmy I’m not blown away either from what I’ve seen so far.
He’s not shit but at the same time he’s not a significant improvement. Bit of a clogger and one dimensional.
You look at other RB/WB at other clubs and they’re bombing up and down with pace and recovery bursts back to goal but don’t really see that from him. He don’t strike me as a modern day FB more of a throw back.
Hopefully more to come from him.
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Post by jfrabbit on Dec 17, 2023 8:22:25 GMT
It's true, you never see him making bursting runs.
He's more an old style RB that just marshals that area. He's athletic but not very creative to make things happen down that side.
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Post by alanwycombe on Dec 17, 2023 8:52:56 GMT
All of the above plus can be rash and get caught out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2023 7:09:48 GMT
Can't say I'm fully sold on this guy. First impressions were good but probably more to do with anything half decent would be better than what Kaykay was serving up but, after a number of performances now, It's clear to see why he was without a club. As with most players we sign now, he wouldn't be at QPR if he was anything special. |
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Post by MattyRangers on Dec 18, 2023 8:19:29 GMT
Agree with sentiments above. Like oldr says, if he was a real special talent he wouldn't be with us. He's decent / steady enough, certainly happier with him there than Kakay anyway! Get the impression he is half a sicknote though which aint ideal.
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