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Post by 2Loftus on Nov 8, 2024 13:01:29 GMT
The QPR way. We'd turn Messi to shit. A shit Messi got to be better than Madsen for example. A (very) Messi shit - sums up our current situation succinctly... |
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Post by Shania on Nov 8, 2024 13:09:59 GMT
I hope people are on Noury`s phone already. Him and Belk sure have to answer for this mess.
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Nov 8, 2024 13:42:09 GMT
Madsen and Celar the two big ticket buys and right now you couldn't get rid of them on free transfers - you would probably need to buy up their contracts too.
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Post by Bill on Nov 8, 2024 16:36:26 GMT
Madsen and Celar the two big ticket buys and right now you couldn't get rid of them on free transfers - you would probably need to buy up their contracts too. So there we have it money spunked on crap and we are left with virtually worthless assets out of our newbies,great business accumen that. |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 8, 2024 19:53:41 GMT
Madsen and Celar the two big ticket buys and right now you couldn't get rid of them on free transfers - you would probably need to buy up their contracts too. So there we have it money spunked on crap and we are left with virtually worthless assets out of our newbies,great business accumen that. huge questions of Nourry to be asked |
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Post by Bill on Nov 8, 2024 22:42:24 GMT
So there we have it money spunked on crap and we are left with virtually worthless assets out of our newbies,great business accumen that. huge questions of Nourry to be asked Yes and i for one want answers. |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 8, 2024 22:43:02 GMT
So there we have it money spunked on crap and we are left with virtually worthless assets out of our newbies,great business accumen that. huge questions of Nourry to be asked Wonder when the next fan forum will be, and whether or not questions will be filtered |
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Post by Bill on Nov 10, 2024 12:01:48 GMT
Nourry out
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Post by hubble on Nov 10, 2024 12:46:56 GMT
I think Nourry has to go. Appointing a 26 year old with zero experience in football as CEO and DOF was a crazy gamble by Hoos and the owners and it hasn't worked out. Hoos should go to. What's he doing, sitting there on his fat arse on his fat wage, a chairman who does absolutely nothing and who was a big part of our decline over the last several years. Fuck Hoos and Norry off ASAP. Get in a proper DOF and Chairman. They are the problem, NOT Marti.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 10, 2024 12:53:35 GMT
DOF role would be a lovely one for Warnock at least he would identify proper players.
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Post by gtleighsr3 on Nov 10, 2024 13:07:47 GMT
DOF role would be a lovely one for Warnock at least he would identify proper players. our recycling bill would treble with all them brown envelopes init |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 10, 2024 13:50:25 GMT
As there's so much confusion about this, here's is a handy reminder of what Nourry actually told the press two months ago, where he specifically details our player recruitment process: "He made it clear that the recruitment structure at QPR is a collaborative process between himself, head coach Marti Cifuentes, his assistant Xavi Calm and head of recruitment Andy Belk.With the help of data, the quartet ultimately work towards a ‘game model’ which was established last season and guides the club’s decision-making process.“We think that this model of knowing how we want to play, and having a coach who can execute and evolve it, is the right one because then the thinking is really joined up,” Nourry explained.“Based on that work we have 15 or 16 positional profiles in a 25-man squad. We then have names in all positions and then we will sit down together with the coaching staff and look at our priorities for the window and how we are going to achieve those together.“A lot of clubs have a StatsBomb account, does that actually get used when they sign players would be another question. We are making sure that the first filter is data-driven and data-led in terms of the players we want to look at because we think they can be successful in how we play.
“We don’t move forward on a player unless Marti, Xavi, Andy and myself are in agreement that it’s going to work. That sort of old ad hock version of ‘what we thinking we might need today?’ and looking to see in the other room if we have it is not a good way to operate.“We worked in total lockstep over the course of the summer and everybody was unanimous on the players we brought in to the football club.“I’m not the one sat there watching 50 games of Nicolas Madsen. We have people who are highly specialised at what they do. Just like I don’t pick the team, I don’t tell Andy: ‘I’ve seen 10 games of this guy, we like him’.“But I do receive a significant level of detail on all of the bits and pieces that means we as a group think these are the right people to go forward with and I will deal with everything in terms of finances.“If there is a specific hot button issue where there’s a level of disagreement on a certain player then I will spend more time looking at a player myself. But generally speaking, I’m not sitting there watching hundreds of games a day.”=========================== So he's essentially saying the signings are democratically agreed by all four: Marti, Calm, Nourry and Belk. Therefore, as we are to take him at his word, then they are ALL equally responsible for player recruitment. And as he's on public record as saying that, he's therefore accountable for those statements. For the full interview and context, it's here: londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/christian-nourry-on-being-a-sports-minded-chief-executive-at-qpr/ |
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Post by Ginger Ninja on Nov 10, 2024 14:16:37 GMT
If that's the case, they've all royally fucked it.
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Post by Bill on Nov 10, 2024 14:29:15 GMT
Bullshit,just covering his arse,or a complete liar.
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Post by Shania on Nov 10, 2024 14:39:01 GMT
Me, myself and I.
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Post by James1979 on Nov 10, 2024 14:41:13 GMT
Bullshit,just covering his arse,or a complete liar. But he said that 2 months ago. I think that sounds about right that it’s those guys involved |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 10, 2024 15:03:03 GMT
Whether it's BS or not, we have the receipts. He's on public record with those statements, and is therefore accountable for them. |
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 10, 2024 15:03:15 GMT
Hard to believe four people concur about the merits of the players we signed. Surely Marti/Xavi are better than that.
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Post by James1979 on Nov 10, 2024 15:06:23 GMT
Hard to believe four people concur about the merits of the players we signed. Surely Marti/Xavi are better than that. Madsen was signed and went straight into the starting XI. If Marti and Xavi weren’t involved, no way does he walk straight in with 1 training session. It’s not 1 persons fault this mess (maybe Belk) but Marti must shoulder some of the blame |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 10, 2024 15:11:03 GMT
Still questions there Stan. Does belk bring the players scouted to the table to discuss or does Marti suggest players then they discuss.
Think for me the initial identification is the key part in this as if it’s scout related then discussed then I don’t hold Marti responsible however on the counter if Marti suggests players he can’t complain.
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 10, 2024 15:17:25 GMT
Still questions there Stan. Does belk bring the players scouted to the table to discuss or does Marti suggest players then they discuss. Think for me the initial identification is the key part in this as if it’s scout related then discussed then I don’t hold Marti responsible however on the counter if Marti suggests players he can’t complain. Agree. However, even in your scenario, Marti/Xavi still have the power to veto a decision if it's a Belk or Nourry find. Therefore in my book that makes them all equally responsible. |
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Post by Rangers77 on Nov 10, 2024 15:22:05 GMT
Piece on LfWs alleging Nourry invented his CV.
Think we fans need back Marti and scream at the administrators.
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Post by West Acton on Nov 10, 2024 15:33:08 GMT
Still questions there Stan. Does belk bring the players scouted to the table to discuss or does Marti suggest players then they discuss. Think for me the initial identification is the key part in this as if it’s scout related then discussed then I don’t hold Marti responsible however on the counter if Marti suggests players he can’t complain. Agree. However, even in your scenario, Marti/Xavi still have the power to veto a decision if it's a Belk or Nourry find. Therefore in my book that makes them all equally responsible. still grey area for me as if they present him shit to choose between it’s shit he’s just had choose what variety oh shit to have. Assuming what you say is right what happens if he says thanks for those six left back options none of them are good enough? |
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Post by James1979 on Nov 10, 2024 15:40:32 GMT
Agree. However, even in your scenario, Marti/Xavi still have the power to veto a decision if it's a Belk or Nourry find. Therefore in my book that makes them all equally responsible. still grey area for me as if they present him shit to choose between it’s shit he’s just had choose what variety oh shit to have. Assuming what you say is right what happens if he says thanks for those six left back options none of them are good enough? Based on what Nourry said before the shit hit fan, it seems that Marti and Xavi had to give consent. So, they can’t sulk at the players they’ve got. And must take share of the blame. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Nov 10, 2024 15:43:44 GMT
Agree. However, even in your scenario, Marti/Xavi still have the power to veto a decision if it's a Belk or Nourry find. Therefore in my book that makes them all equally responsible. still grey area for me as if they present him shit to choose between it’s shit he’s just had choose what variety oh shit to have. Assuming what you say is right what happens if he says thanks for those six left back options none of them are good enough? Agree it's a grey area in that we can all only speculate on it. Nourry did that interview four games into the season, when we were on decent form. So what I can't get past is what would incentivise him to lie about their collective responsibility (throwing Marti & Xavi under the bus) in full knowledge that he's on public record over it. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 10, 2024 16:07:03 GMT
Bullshit,just covering his arse,or a complete liar. But he said that 2 months ago. I think that sounds about right that it’s those guys involved Exactly when things were going better and now 2 months later nothing. People say often what you want to hear,dont mean its correct. Met the guy briefly once,not my cup of tea i admit but i think i am a pretty good judge of charachter. Why introduce a code of silence,just dont smell right to me,in fact i think it sucks. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 10, 2024 16:10:03 GMT
I cant believe Marti or Xavi had a say in these signings because if they did they have no right to hold the positions they are in.
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Post by Shania on Nov 10, 2024 17:10:35 GMT
Nourry is a 26 years old who has worked in football business for 11 years? Strange!
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Post by alanwycombe on Nov 10, 2024 17:30:02 GMT
Nourry is a 26 years old who has worked in football business for 11 years? Strange! Used to sell programmes for pocket money when he was a kid😁 |
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Post by West Acton on Nov 10, 2024 17:36:15 GMT
still grey area for me as if they present him shit to choose between it’s shit he’s just had choose what variety oh shit to have. Assuming what you say is right what happens if he says thanks for those six left back options none of them are good enough? Based on what Nourry said before the shit hit fan, it seems that Marti and Xavi had to give consent. So, they can’t sulk at the players they’ve got. And must take share of the blame. but consent to what? If there only offered rubbish its not much of a choice. If this was the best they were offered to consent too I dread to think what they said no too looked like. Belk and Nourry suggestions seem like equivalent of asking if you would rather lose your left eye or your right one. Answer is neither but if I have to choose…….. |
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