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Post by 1qprdk on Jan 14, 2024 23:38:51 GMT
Maybe Nourry's audit of the club told them to get rid of Les, Chris, Lee and other underperformers, thus trimming some of the redundant non-playing staff. If that's the case then it's exactly what many have been asking for, and quite possibly a good thing, albeit too late.
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Post by spongeparr on Jan 15, 2024 8:56:39 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about the age. If he is talented, clever and knows his stuff then great. Everyone has to get their first role somewhere.
Our owners, despite having made mistakes, know businesses and they know what makes a good CEO. More so than they know what makes a good football manager for example.
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Post by jfrabbit on Jan 15, 2024 9:06:20 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about the age. If he is talented, clever and knows his stuff then great. Everyone has to get their first role somewhere. Our owners, despite having made mistakes, know businesses and they know what makes a good CEO. More so than they know what makes a good football manager for example. Agree with the first part. Unfortunately witnessing some of their ‘business’ decisions down the years leaves me somewhat worried, I’ll be honest. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Jan 15, 2024 9:22:47 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about the age. If he is talented, clever and knows his stuff then great. Everyone has to get their first role somewhere. Our owners, despite having made mistakes, know businesses and they know what makes a good CEO. More so than they know what makes a good football manager for example. I agree that if they can appoint a good head coach then they can appoint a good CEO too. In that respect perhaps lessons of the disastrous recruitment mistakes made in the past are now finally being learnt. This would be related to the Ferdinand, Ramsey and Hoos departures too. Wouldn't therefore be surprised to see the likes of Belk, Impey and Hall follow suit. |
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Post by sparks on Jan 15, 2024 9:52:20 GMT
When Amit stepped down from being chairman Hoos said it was due to other commitments preventing Amit spending time at the club, so Hoos took over.
Now Hoos is saying he’s retiring from being CEO because he wants to spend more time with his family and sick mother but is happy right now to stay on as Chairman🧐🙄🤪
Hoos must think the fans are really dumb to swallow that bullshit.
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Post by Corbray on Jan 15, 2024 10:17:43 GMT
hoos staying on as chairman is a short term thing i reckon. more of a transition thing were he helps in nourry settling in before departing in the summer
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Post by 2Loftus on Jan 15, 2024 10:34:02 GMT
Yes, I read Hoos stepped in as CEO as a stop-gap, only ever a short-term appointment.
I’m not reading anything else into the situation.
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Post by James1979 on Jan 15, 2024 10:54:48 GMT
I couldn't give a shit about the age. If he is talented, clever and knows his stuff then great. Everyone has to get their first role somewhere. Our owners, despite having made mistakes, know businesses and they know what makes a good CEO. More so than they know what makes a good football manager for example. Agree with the first part. Unfortunately witnessing some of their ‘business’ decisions down the years leaves me somewhat worried, I’ll be honest. I think initially they wasted huge amounts on their own bad decisions such as spending under Hughes and Redknapp. Then they hired “football” people to make the football decisions and blindly followed what they were doing with limited accountability because they know little about football. Now they’ve got someone in to check all this and hopefully to make us better. It’s a bit late for me but at least it’s been done. |
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Post by acricketer on Jan 15, 2024 13:05:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2024 14:04:35 GMT
Would also like to understand a bit more about his involvement at those clubs mentioned above as its impossible to ascertain it seems.
Call me cynical, but if you were at those clubs in an important capacity and, more importantly, was a success you don't end up at QPR.
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Post by alanwycombe on Jan 15, 2024 14:13:15 GMT
Would also like to understand a bit more about his involvement at those clubs mentioned above as its impossible to ascertain it seems. Call me cynical, but if you were at those clubs in an important capacity and, more importantly, was a success you don't end up at QPR. Yeah, that struck me but sometimes you move sideways and even down to find a path to the top if that path is blocked in a bigger set up. Fingers crossed about him. |
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Post by Bill on Jan 17, 2024 16:23:34 GMT
How long will he last
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2024 10:31:37 GMT
Definitely played some sleight of hand there, didn't he? When you consider his last interview about there being no signings.
IOW, moving forward, let's not be naïve and take much of what he says to the media with a grain of salt
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Post by stainrodisalegend on Feb 2, 2024 12:37:58 GMT
Definitely played some sleight of hand there, didn't he? When you consider his last interview about there being no signings. IOW, moving forward, let's not be naïve and take much of what he says to the media with a grain of salt There is just so much we don't know. Maybe it was a clever sleight of hand. Maybe the board have taken a risk with FFP because they thought relegation would be an even bigger financial disaster. Maybe it was the intention not to get anyone but they found a cunning ruse to raise the money. From a fans' perspective it looks a great window but some of the windows that have looked the best on the night have turned out to be disastrous long term - and vice versa. At least from a playing perspective he has given us a chance. Next fans forum will be interesting as so much to ask him. |
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Post by The General on Feb 2, 2024 12:42:33 GMT
is it possible by removing les / chris / lee / amit
this has allowed us to sign some players as we have saved 50 k a month on that lot ?
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Post by The General on Feb 2, 2024 12:43:52 GMT
surely having no dof and no chairman would release 1 million pound in wages a year coming under ffp
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 2, 2024 13:12:30 GMT
surely having no dof and no chairman would release 1 million pound in wages a year coming under ffp Hoos is now Chairman Gens. But take your point about Amit, Les and Ramsey |
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Post by Corbray on Feb 2, 2024 13:37:25 GMT
surely having no dof and no chairman would release 1 million pound in wages a year coming under ffp afaik non playing staff aren't counted towards FFP, or if they are it was only changed relatively recently. it was that loophole that allowed derby to bring in rooney as he was a player coach for them |
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Post by itsonlyagame on Feb 2, 2024 15:28:13 GMT
surely having no dof and no chairman would release 1 million pound in wages a year coming under ffp afaik non playing staff aren't counted towards FFP, or if they are it was only changed relatively recently. it was that loophole that allowed derby to bring in rooney as he was a player coach for them If non-playing staff wages don’t count towards ffp, that’s most of our team off the books. |
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 6, 2024 9:31:36 GMT
Definitely played some sleight of hand there, didn't he? When you consider his last interview about there being no signings. IOW, moving forward, let's not be naïve and take much of what he says to the media with a grain of salt With both Frey and Anderson at similar ages in their careers Which is another example of the club saying one thing and doing another: 1st it was no signings. 2nd it was the model of signing mainly younger players and selling for a profit. None of this is a criticism. However, again, it suggests we can't always take what they say on face-value. Which again, is not a criticism either. However we do see many fans, here included, of falling into that trap of always taking the club on their word. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 6, 2024 14:01:23 GMT
I’m relieved that the club brought in 4 players that were needed but certainly don’t accept that Nourry was correct to make such an in-accurate statement to the fans.
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Post by spongeparr on Feb 6, 2024 14:04:03 GMT
From memory, wasn't there some sort of wording that left wriggle room?
He didn't say no signings. Wasn't it like we can't buy anyone without offloading first (along those lines).
We didn't pay a fee for anyone, loaned out Dozzell (assuming we got a fee and they took wages).
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 6, 2024 15:57:03 GMT
Dozzell must have been on plenty then, I bet we’d all be shocked to know how much.
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Post by Stanley75 on Feb 6, 2024 16:03:20 GMT
From memory, wasn't there some sort of wording that left wriggle room? He didn't say no signings. Wasn't it like we can't buy anyone without offloading first (along those lines). We didn't pay a fee for anyone, loaned out Dozzell (assuming we got a fee and they took wages). He basically said there was no money and stressed therefore little chance of any January business, which many fans interpreted (rightly or wrongly)as no money = no signings |
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Post by awin on Feb 6, 2024 16:14:04 GMT
Interesting what he said about length of contracts.
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Post by awin on Feb 6, 2024 16:15:00 GMT
“The club’s policy on all contracts going forward is simple. We won’t be making an announcement on their lengths.
“We know what we are working towards with each player’s situation and we understand where the development of those contracts can go.
“But I think it is important for the club as an institution to work as hard and as smart in the market as possible, and that includes taking this step for strategic purposes.”
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Post by coneysboots on Feb 6, 2024 16:33:24 GMT
“The club’s policy on all contracts going forward is simple. We won’t be making an announcement on their lengths. “We know what we are working towards with each player’s situation and we understand where the development of those contracts can go. “But I think it is important for the club as an institution to work as hard and as smart in the market as possible, and that includes taking this step for strategic purposes.” Shame he wasn't about a decade or so ago. |
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Post by sparks on Feb 6, 2024 16:51:52 GMT
I’m can’t help but feel sceptical on what comes out from the club, keeping length of contracts secret is slightly odd as it’s only realistically a secret from the fans, agents and other clubs will be aware.
On some of his other points Nourry makes today he can hardly say we made use of loopholes in FFP regs to finance some player imports.
Not difficult to perhaps suggest Michi Frey being probably the only one of the 4 incomings to be based on Nourry ‘s data and analysis expertise, with the others being from old friendships and what’s left on the table.
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Post by alanwycombe on Feb 6, 2024 16:57:35 GMT
Maybe we’ll be giving players alarmingly long contracts? Isn’t that how Chelsea etc. get around the rules?
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Post by 1qprdk on Feb 6, 2024 18:21:37 GMT
I’m can’t help but feel sceptical on what comes out from the club, keeping length of contracts secret is slightly odd as it’s only realistically a secret from the fans, agents and other clubs will be aware. On some of his other points Nourry makes today he can hardly say we made use of loopholes in FFP regs to finance some player imports. Not difficult to perhaps suggest Michi Frey being probably the only one of the 4 incomings to be based on Nourry ‘s data and analysis expertise, with the others being from old friendships and what’s left on the table. Can't say I blame you after what we've been through for many years now, but it's a sad state of affairs when our first thought on club statements is that it's just corporate bs and more waffle. I still hope this is the start of something different, but then again I've thought that so many times before. |
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